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Ha. Not even true. Slow starts to most games we

Posted on: March 25, 2025 at 15:02:23 CT
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lost. Many times we slowly chipped at the lead and almost came back but then one player takes a hero shot when close and goes bad. Or they just didn't have the mental toughness to quite get there.

Ant Rob also played like ****. He is the hodge of the this year's team. Need him to get steals and start fast breaks. When he is in foul trouble the last 5 games you don't have that.

Also we haven't been good enough as a half court offense to overcome the lack of fast breaks. Its just not what we are best at.

Its clear that Gates did not lose his team. He just didn't do enough to help the team get over things that went wrong.(mostly slow starts)
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Shaw to the portal... - Carlos Rossi KC - 3/25 13:23:48
     Really good athlete, really good kid. Rooting for him(nm) - Erwin Fletcher STL - 3/26 01:03:57
     I would love to see him transfer to Harvard where his sister - MOKE MU - 3/25 19:44:51
     I don't think Gates is a good developer. - Spartus MWSC - 3/25 14:19:54
          we should hire a HS coach for $100k, and use the $4M+ we - zounami MU - 3/25 14:23:42
          Disagree. But you aren’t going to succeed - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/25 14:22:45
               How can you mesure to what extent it is - GA Tiger MU - 3/25 14:54:23
                    The only way to judge is… did the players get better - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/25 15:11:04
                         Yes although I assume nearly all players are somewhat - GA Tiger MU - 3/25 15:41:47
                              on Gates' teams, they have to be (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 19:04:36
               why did the team get worse down the stretch? (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 14:25:56
                    Not because of development, or lack thereof - alwaysright MU - 3/25 16:39:08
                         Then why? Did Gates lose control of the team? (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 19:04:11
                    Defense. Mizzou went from playing like a top - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/25 14:28:21
                         but why?... why did the team regress so much? (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 14:31:13
                              Learning how to handle success - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/25 14:32:32
                                   most of the SEC improved, nearly half are in the Sweet 16... - zounami MU - 3/25 14:34:00
                                        Mizzou killed South Carolina - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/25 14:37:42
                                             Mizzou then lost 5 of its next 6 after that game. (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 14:44:41
                                                  Also true (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/25 14:48:01
                                                       such a collapse.. it's like Gates lost control of the team (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 14:52:14
                                                            If he lost control of the roster I would expect - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/25 15:09:49
                                                            Ha. Not even true. Slow starts to most games we - SabertoothTiger MU - 3/25 15:02:23
                                                                 we lost most of those games by double digits (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 15:03:43
                                                                      yeah after we are down by double digits in the first - SabertoothTiger MU - 3/25 15:08:00
                    ...lost 5 of its last 6, looked every bit like the 0-19 team - zounami MU - 3/25 14:26:21
                         Such nonsense - BlackSheep MU - 3/25 14:56:40
     Tulsa, ORU, or Okie State would take him, they need - MU-TULSA MU - 3/25 14:15:54
     Good luck to him. If he takes a 1000 shots a day - SabertoothTiger MU - 3/25 14:12:45
          Work on your ball skills every day as much as humanly - BlackSheep MU - 3/25 15:10:05
     That stinks, too bad. Best of luck to him(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 3/25 14:07:13
     RE: Shaw to the portal... - GreatScott MU - 3/25 13:53:02
          Hahahaha - BlackSheep MU - 3/25 15:14:36
          I don't think him being from KC has anything to do with it - Carlos Rossi KC - 3/25 14:01:12
          Wasn't put in position to succeed. A P5 player who will - Sigma MU - 3/25 13:59:48
          Lol i think it’ll be ok(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 3/25 13:57:48
          If those recruits don't think they are good enough to - TheWildcat MU - 3/25 13:54:44
          bates and mitchell are also from kansas city(nm) - TigerA MU - 3/25 13:54:43
               Only the ones that leave impact - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/25 13:57:37
               RE: bates and mitchell are also from kansas city(nm) - GreatScott MU - 3/25 13:57:27
                    Technically all 3 are out of state guys (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/25 13:58:09
                    you're trying so hard here(nm) - TigerA MU - 3/25 13:58:02
     don't blame him. (nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 3/25 13:49:07
          neither do I (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 14:08:35
     Freak athlete, never developed enough skills - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 3/25 13:46:32
          Wasn't put in position to succeed this yr. A P5 player - Sigma MU - 3/25 13:53:38
               Hahahahahaha - BlackSheep MU - 3/25 14:59:34
               he can't score, DOC - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/25 14:01:02
                    Sounds like Gates knew how to use him (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/25 14:49:34
               Yeah I could see it with the right fit for sure(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 3/25 13:57:08
     Great kid. Mediocre basketball player(nm) - TheRoyalTiger MU - 3/25 13:41:40
     Missouri St could use some athleticism - atMIZZOUnow MU - 3/25 13:32:51
          Missouri state needs a lot (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/25 13:36:41
               Only one more basket in regulation to beatTHE - TheWildcat MU - 3/25 13:40:02
                    Cuonzo lost his only legitimate D1 guard in Dez White - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/25 13:54:58
     I would love to know how much of this was his call - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/25 13:32:33
          I think it was his call. I would have liked to have held on - Carlos Rossi KC - 3/25 13:39:26
               We need wings and shooting more than anything - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 3/25 13:49:36
               why do you think he could have helped next year? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/25 13:41:36
                    Because we lose a ton.(nm) - Carlos Rossi KC - 3/25 13:47:30
                         other than Gray we aren't losing anyone who plays - TigerA MU - 3/25 13:50:35
                              Agree, I don’t think he would have been getting - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/25 13:56:52
                                   agree. it's best for everyone(nm) - TigerA MU - 3/25 13:58:33
                         you don't think we'll replace those players with better - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/25 13:48:14
                              Maybe, but maybe not. I think with decent playing time he - Carlos Rossi KC - 3/25 13:51:11
     not a surprise IMO. Didn't have a place on this team - MizzouAstro MU - 3/25 13:31:49
     Bummer it never panned out. Hope he avgs 15 & 10 at - HissingPrigs77 MU - 3/25 13:31:47
     curious where he will end up(nm) - TigerA MU - 3/25 13:31:11
          Cuonzo could have quite a few former bigs at Mo St - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 3/25 13:34:59
     boooo.(nm) - Harvey Specter MU - 3/25 13:26:02
          will be interesting to see if Gates gets another blank check - zounami MU - 3/25 13:34:00
               New MU million dollar QB should be elite under Drink correct - BlackSheep MU - 3/25 15:06:19
                    That's nothing. Duke just spent $8M on their QB... - zounami MU - 3/25 15:09:11
               Drink better make the playoffs with his unlimited Brink's - Carlos Rossi KC - 3/25 13:37:42
                    Drink's NIL budget was slashed after Gates went 0-19 (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 13:40:08
                         Didn’t Drink just say this week - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/25 14:11:31
                              yes, he's an elite recruiter who gets more with less (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 14:13:28
                                   ...but that only goes so far, his roster is still inferior - zounami MU - 3/25 14:14:15
                                        So both sports are in the same boat. - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/25 14:19:34
                                             no, Mizzou BB's NIL budget ranks much higher in the SEC - zounami MU - 3/25 14:22:00
                                                  What are their budgets? - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/25 14:25:21
                                                       "have heard that the following schools all have a bigger..." - zounami MU - 3/25 14:29:30
                                                            so Drink struggles with NIL fundraising?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/25 14:35:33
                                                                 if Mizzou were Georgia or Texas, you could say that (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 14:38:10
                                                                      we have the 4th highest GDP in the SEC - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/25 14:39:44
                                                                           Missouri is a mid-sized state with several pro teams... - zounami MU - 3/25 16:17:33
                                                                           He can't answer that question as he has no clue what he - Carlos Rossi KC - 3/25 15:50:13
                                                                                MU has never had the level of fan support (especially in FB) - zounami MU - 3/25 16:30:09
                                                            Your source would be wrong. - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/25 14:35:28
                                                                 so, you just added another 4 schools ahead of MU in FB... - zounami MU - 3/25 14:40:05
                                                                      Correct both are mid tier SEC schools - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/25 14:42:46
                                                                           we'll have to agree to disagree (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 14:48:42
                         Nope - Drink said he has THE most talented team he has ever - Carlos Rossi KC - 3/25 13:54:09
                              hes definitely done 'more with less' in terms of the slashed - zounami MU - 3/25 14:01:37
                         RE: Drink's NIL budget was slashed after Gates went 0-19 (nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/25 13:43:28
                              zounami talks out his ass because the information isn't - kmawv8 MU - 3/25 13:56:29
                              That's nothing. Duke just spent $8M on their QB... - zounami MU - 3/25 13:54:01
                                   $1.5m < $8m (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 14:04:06
                                   based on what?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/25 14:02:23
                                        $1.5m < $8m (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 14:04:25
                                             ...and that's Duke. Imagine what the top SEC programs - zounami MU - 3/25 14:04:55
                                                  agree, crazy to think what Drink has been able to get done - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/25 14:16:45
                                   Gates is 2-3 on making the playoffs. Drink is o-fer on - Carlos Rossi KC - 3/25 13:56:08
                                        in basketball, you have to win a region of the tournament to - zounami MU - 3/25 19:03:29
                                        88% of the SEC made the NCAAT. It's like making a bowl game(nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 14:02:51
                                             ...in fact, more SEC teams made the NCAAT than a bowl game - zounami MU - 3/25 14:12:38
                                             ...and Gates lost his 'bowl game' to Drake! (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 14:03:24
                                                  is that worse than losing to Army and Wake Forest?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/25 14:31:06
                                                       is Wake Forest in the MO-Valley conference? (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 14:37:18
                                                            no, but Army is a "mid major"?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/25 14:43:18
                                                                 Army is in the AAC, ranked #21, and 5-0 in bowl games in - zounami MU - 3/25 14:47:50
                                                                      yes, the "AAC" is the college football equivalent of a "mid - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/25 14:52:40
                                                                           ranked #21, and 5-0 in bowl games over the past 9 years (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 14:55:38
                                                                                what does their history have to do with the team - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/25 15:10:42
                                                                                     It's a good program. 5-0 in bowl games over the past 9 years - zounami MU - 3/25 15:14:22
                                                                                          do you not think Drake is a good program?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/25 15:16:49
                                                                                               in the last 50 years, Drake only has 5 NCAAT appearances... - zounami MU - 3/25 15:24:03
                                                                                                    they've won 20+ games the last 7 years - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/25 15:27:51
                                                                                                         in the MO-Valley conference... and they were 0-3 in the - zounami MU - 3/25 15:31:27
                                                                                                              "How bad is the MO Valley," you ask?... well, Drake went - zounami MU - 3/25 15:37:20
                                                                                                                   ...SMS (Cuonzo's team) took Drake to OT, twice (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 15:38:14
                                                                                ...and Drink has Mizzou's greatest post-season win in the - zounami MU - 3/25 14:59:33
                                                                                     you referenced the opt-outs making a difference in the loss - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/25 15:25:18
                                                                                          Mizzou & Ohio State's injuries/optouts were comparable (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 15:32:52
                                                  ...and Princeton!... fvcking loser (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 14:03:35
     Wish him the best, great kid - Gavin Citrus MU - 3/25 13:25:13
          Yup - BlackSheep MU - 3/25 15:08:08
     Makes sense with his lack of PT(nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 3/25 13:24:40
          Yeah - I wasn't really shocked.(nm) - Carlos Rossi KC - 3/25 13:28:44




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