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Posted on: March 19, 2025 at 18:27:07 CT
Spanky
KU
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Is Tren de Aragua a foreign government or nation?
How does deporting gang bangers meet the Alien Enemies Act?
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DOJ slams District Judge Boasberg
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Spanky
KU
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3/19 12:58:45
Ultimately all of these legal cases trying to delay Trump
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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3/19 13:23:55
In the cases filed against Trump's actions where a
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KCT-BoneTiger
MU
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3/19 13:30:48
do you?
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FootballRefugee
MU
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3/19 13:51:34
Yes, and it does not matter what side it is coming from
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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3/19 13:50:32
Trump will get a mixed bag ruling from SCOTUS
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Spanky
KU
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3/19 13:28:04
Why would they rule that way when there is specific language
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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3/19 13:52:38
"by a foreign nation or government."
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Spanky
KU
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3/19 14:11:52
They all come from the same nation. Wow, just wow.(nm)
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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3/19 14:26:22
When the Crips expanded their operations from California
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Spanky
KU
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3/19 14:36:26
Dumb analogy. Even by your low standards.(nm)
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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3/19 14:43:14
Why? US gangbangers opened shop in Canada
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Spanky
KU
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3/19 14:51:01
So you're saying that the Venezuelan government
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hangman
MU
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3/19 17:26:08
RE: Trump will get a mixed bag ruling from SCOTUS
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BH O'bonga
MU
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3/19 13:34:09
And the Court case some are citing (Ludecke v. Watkins)
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Spanky
KU
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3/19 13:44:30
There was a declared war that applied to that case. But the
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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3/19 13:54:56
and that is...
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Spanky
KU
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3/19 14:04:56
according to the President's order
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FootballRefugee
MU
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3/19 14:06:48
He needs to show that they are ordering this
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Spanky
KU
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3/19 14:09:14
no he doesn't (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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3/19 15:56:51
No he really doesn't. They are here in force, they are all
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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3/19 14:27:54
Yes he really does....and the case is not closed.
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Spanky
KU
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3/19 14:38:01
he has proclaimed it
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FootballRefugee
MU
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3/19 14:19:02
RE: And the Court case some are citing (Ludecke v. Watkins)
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BH O'bonga
MU
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3/19 13:50:18
Read the article.. not an opinion site(nm)
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Spanky
KU
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3/19 13:52:03
here ... not an opinion site
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FootballRefugee
MU
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3/19 13:59:22
That does not address Ludecke v Watkins ruling
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Spanky
KU
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3/19 14:02:32
Ludecke v Watkins ruling: Doesn't matter. Judicial review is
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BH O'bonga
MU
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3/19 15:19:48
Then why are supporters of Trump's use of the Act citing
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Spanky
KU
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3/19 15:26:53
RE: Then why are supporters of Trump's use of the Act citing
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BH O'bonga
MU
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3/19 15:55:10
You don’t too goodly read if you think that(nm)
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Spanky
KU
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3/19 16:03:47
It is not JUST a wartime power. You repeating it does not
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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3/19 14:29:45
It is a wartime power
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Spanky
KU
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3/19 15:09:15
it addresses the letter of the law
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FootballRefugee
MU
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3/19 14:05:47
and the letter of the law does not apply to foreign gang
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Spanky
KU
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3/19 14:08:10
depends who ordered it
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FootballRefugee
MU
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3/19 14:14:41
and there is zero evidence a foreign government ordered it
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Spanky
KU
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3/19 14:38:41
There does not have to be. Nothing in the act says that the
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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3/19 14:45:03
No.. they didn't.
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Spanky
KU
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3/19 14:58:33
you're arguing in a circle (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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3/19 15:57:56
Am I?
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Spanky
KU
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3/19 18:27:07
read the rest of the law
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FootballRefugee
MU
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3/19 13:58:28
You were shown to be wrong yesterday
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Spanky
KU
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3/19 14:03:21
no, you're making the same mistake
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FootballRefugee
MU
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3/19 14:05:25
Wait for the ruling from SCOTUS. The law does not apply
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Spanky
KU
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3/19 14:07:09
of course it does
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FootballRefugee
MU
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3/19 14:19:57
The only use of the Act has been during 3 declared wars
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Spanky
KU
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3/19 14:43:59
Please read the full act. It DOES NOT have to be a declared
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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3/19 14:46:24
The gang bangers are not a 'foreign nation or government'
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Spanky
KU
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3/19 14:59:43
the order opines on the connection
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FootballRefugee
MU
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3/19 15:02:53
The order will fail judicial review.(nm)
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Spanky
KU
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3/19 15:09:50
It actually is what the law says
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Spanky
KU
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3/19 13:38:12
Keep reading the word OR indicates that there are other
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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3/19 13:56:25
that is *actually* part of what the law says
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FootballRefugee
MU
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3/19 13:56:24
RE: It actually is what the law says
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BandG
MU
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3/19 13:55:21
RE: It actually is what the law says
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BH O'bonga
MU
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3/19 13:51:21
It shows when the Act is applicable. And deporting gang
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Spanky
KU
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3/19 14:00:42
You have been proven wrong multiple times in this thread
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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3/19 14:28:45
I'm sure those other words don't add any important context
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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3/19 13:57:58
Please show how that law applies to gang bangers
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Spanky
KU
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3/19 14:06:23
Read the act .
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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3/19 14:25:08
No.. it does not apply(nm)
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Spanky
KU
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3/19 15:27:52
Tell us why it doesn't. Don't just say it doesn't. (nm)
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Logan
STL
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3/19 16:17:43
They are classified as terrorists affiliated with another
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Logan
STL
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3/19 14:17:48
No more that Crips members that moved to Canada(nm)
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Spanky
KU
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3/19 15:28:37
That doesn't support your argument. Besides
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Logan
STL
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3/19 16:14:34
No, but Venezuela is. (nm)
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Outsider
MU
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3/19 14:15:12
Tren de aragua is not the Venezuelan government
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Spanky
KU
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3/19 15:30:32
But they are labeled terrorists who send money to
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Logan
STL
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3/19 16:17:01