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same with Gates... but Haith went 30-5 (Kenpom #7)

Posted on: March 12, 2025 at 13:40:21 CT
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so "getting worse" was practically unavoidable.

Conversely, there is nowhere to go but UP from an 0-19 season.

And Gates had a lot of help from boosters.
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Haith was .640 in conference play at MU... Gates is .381 - zounami A - 3/12 13:09:04
     Haith was a failure everywhere he went. Gates has - alwaysright MU - 3/12 14:03:49
          Haith .640, Gates .381 ... and Gates "recruiting" has - zounami A - 3/12 14:06:48
               You are mentally ill - alwaysright MU - 3/12 16:18:23
                    I posted facts. (nm) - zounami A - 3/12 16:50:47
     I'm glad you posted this - Johnny Parkour MU - 3/12 13:51:21
          No such word as inastute, low IQ,& just another calca/sue DH - Macgrantt MU - 3/12 16:21:16
          .640 vs .381 — no counterpoints, Mr. Member-For-One-Day? (nm) - zounami A - 3/12 13:54:44
     haith is officially at .555 in conf play at mizzou(nm) - TigerA MU - 3/12 13:25:59
          Come on, you are better than that(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 3/12 14:06:40
               i appreciate that (nm) - TigerA MU - 3/12 14:23:12
                    Maybe I have you confused with that ape53 guy(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 3/12 14:28:21
                         ajpe53 but close enough(nm) - TigerA MU - 3/12 14:34:04
                              I mean ape53. ajpe53 was a moran (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 3/12 15:20:00
                                   lol(nm) - TigerA MU - 3/12 16:13:56
               no, I don't think he is (nm) - zounami A - 3/12 14:07:19
          Nope, those wins happened. MU's clown AD self-imposing - zounami A - 3/12 13:27:41
               nope(nm) - TigerA MU - 3/12 13:28:12
                    you're proving my point about racist MU fans who (still) - zounami A - 3/12 13:29:37
                         You are proving everyone's point that you are a moran - TheWildcat MU - 3/12 13:33:09
                              Reading comprehension. I never said Haith's first roster - zounami A - 3/12 13:35:41
                                   Haith's best season ever was with someone else's roster - TheWildcat MU - 3/12 13:36:57
                                        same with Gates... but Haith went 30-5 (Kenpom #7) - zounami A - 3/12 13:40:21
                                             Gates had a good team, an atrocious team, and a good team - TheWildcat MU - 3/12 13:44:07
                                                  so... Haith's "decent team" was Kenpom #25, and Gates' - zounami A - 3/12 13:46:38
                                                       Gates good team advanced in the tourney and finished - TheWildcat MU - 3/12 13:50:08
                                                            got blown out by 15-seed Princeton, squandering the - zounami A - 3/12 13:52:21
                                                                 Haith...lost.....to a 15 seed. Both made the toruney 2/3. - TheWildcat MU - 3/12 13:53:41
                                                                      Correct, both did... because the NCAAT is fluky and highly - zounami A - 3/12 13:56:42
                                                                           Both are 2/3. Gates inherited a program in much worse - TheWildcat MU - 3/12 13:58:48
                                                                                Wrong. Mike Anderson left the cupboard empty after that - zounami A - 3/12 14:03:16
                                                                                     There is no one that agrees with you. (nm) - TheWildcat MU - 3/12 14:13:45
                                                                                          lol, now make something else up out of thin air (nm) - zounami A - 3/12 14:15:35
                                                                                               This is going well for you up above. Lol(nm) - TheWildcat MU - 3/12 14:26:01
                                                                                                    you asked an irrelevant question about a point I never made - zounami A - 3/12 14:28:37
                                                                                                         RE: you asked an irrelevant question about a point I never made - TheWildcat MU - 3/12 14:29:23
                                                                                                              The question you asked is irrelevant to those points. (nm) - zounami A - 3/12 14:33:44
                                                                                                                   You answered it with "wrong"..why didn't you say what you - TheWildcat MU - 3/12 14:38:45
                                                                                                                        This kind of interchanges is what zounami lives for, you're - Macgrantt MU - 3/12 16:40:32
                         lol, i didn't think i doing that well here but you just - TigerA MU - 3/12 13:30:42
                              I was joking about the racism, but I'm serious about MU fans - zounami A - 3/12 13:32:24
                                   So we ignore 15 years of him as a head coach (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/12 13:33:12
                                        apples-to-apples is their performance at MU (and actually - zounami A - 3/12 13:48:25
                                             That leads to incorrect assessments of coaches - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/12 13:52:27
                                                  no, it leads to a fair-and-accurate comparison of when they - zounami A - 3/12 14:04:55
                                                       It leads to being wrong. Both coaches have 1 season - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/12 14:07:32
                                                            you've got it backwards... apples-to-oranges comparisons - zounami A - 3/12 14:08:46
                                                                 So 3 years as a coach tells us more of his ability than - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/12 14:12:47
                                                                      his ability to win at MU, yes (nm) - zounami A - 3/12 14:13:20
                                                                           Seems fishy that he never replicated that season (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/12 14:22:35
                                                                                pre-NIL, Mizzou was the easiest place to win of all - zounami A - 3/12 14:29:30
                                                                                     Or basing your opinion of him based on that 1 season - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/12 14:42:09
     What’s our payroll again? - Hickeytime MU - 3/12 13:25:47
     Kim Anderson fans scapegoat Haith for Kim’s failures - FIJItiger MU - 3/12 13:17:16
          Gates is better than Kim, but that's it. (nm) - zounami A - 3/12 13:49:12
          Tim Fuller was ahead of his time with "recruiting". - Chievous'Bandaid MU - 3/12 13:30:47
               There are zero credible allegations Fuller paid players(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 3/12 13:44:21
                    correct (nm) - zounami A - 3/12 14:07:52
                    I guess we know different people. nm - Chievous'Bandaid MU - 3/12 13:50:03
                         I’m open to learning about any such credible allegations (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 3/12 14:09:56
                              get ready for some *crickets* - zounami A - 3/12 14:11:38
               Poor guy is about to be out of a job again for working for - TheWildcat MU - 3/12 13:37:49
          I agree with this and I also think Haith is average at - TheWildcat MU - 3/12 13:19:29
               At MU, Haith was slightly above avg - FIJItiger MU - 3/12 13:40:22
               who possibly argues that?(nm) - TigerA MU - 3/12 13:32:12
                    Old people/low information fans(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 3/12 13:41:13
                    You typically have to be above the age of 65 but - TheWildcat MU - 3/12 13:36:05
               again, after 3 seasons at MU... Haith .640, Gates .381 - zounami A - 3/12 13:24:09
               It depends on how you view cheating - Columbian Gold MU - 3/12 13:22:17
                    Not relevant. There are no accusations much less evidence - FIJItiger MU - 3/12 13:42:42
                         The notion was reinforced by a cowardly AD who self-imposed - zounami A - 3/12 14:11:10
     I will agree that Haith was mistreated by MU and its fans(nm) - TheWildcat MU - 3/12 13:10:16
          it was awful... especially since he was a better coach than - zounami A - 3/12 13:11:01
               So far I'd put him about even with Gates. (nm) - TheWildcat MU - 3/12 13:14:35
                    based on what? (nm) - zounami A - 3/12 13:15:16
                         Gates has showed the ability to rebound. Haith got worse - TheWildcat MU - 3/12 13:16:07
                              Haith probably got another year had he not had NCAA - Harvey Specter MU - 3/12 13:29:47
                              because he went 0-19 ... Haith never had a bad season... - zounami A - 3/12 13:17:20
                                   he has a winless conf record his last year here(nm) - TigerA MU - 3/12 13:26:32
                                   Haith took over for our best coach since Norm. Gates - TheWildcat MU - 3/12 13:17:55
                                        GMAB. Gates' best player was an NBA first-rounder ... - zounami A - 3/12 13:22:20
                                             Haith inherited 2 NBA players and another who got drafted. (nm) - TheWildcat MU - 3/12 13:24:38
                                                  who was the first-rounder he inherited? (nm) - zounami A - 3/12 13:25:16
                                                       That first rounder isn't currently an NBA player and is a G - TheWildcat MU - 3/12 13:27:30
                                                            and Haith went 30-5 (Kenpom #7) with those players (nm) - zounami A - 3/12 13:41:32
                                                                 Yes he should have. It was built to win. (nm) - TheWildcat MU - 3/12 13:45:05
                              Haith left on his own. - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/12 13:17:06
                                   He was forced out and you know it (nm) - TheWildcat MU - 3/12 13:17:34
                                        Not really. He wanted an extension and didn’t get it - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/12 13:21:26
                                        correct (nm) - zounami A - 3/12 13:17:43




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