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Haith was .640 in conference play at MU... Gates is .381

Posted on: March 12, 2025 at 13:09:04 CT

zounami MU

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and yet, fans thought Haith was a failure.

He won 23+ every season and was run out of town, but now... 21-10 feels like an "accomplishment".

That's how much Kim lowered the standards at Mizzou.

Gates would be getting the "Haith treatment" — even worse, in fact — if he had coached here prior to Kim.

He's got the best job in college basketball. Extremely high pay fully guaranteed through 2029, ultra low expectations, and wealthy boosters buying him 12+ deep rosters which Haith/Kim/Cuonzo only could have dreamed of.

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Haith was .640 in conference play at MU... Gates is .381 - zounami MU - 3/12 13:09:04

Haith was a failure everywhere he went. Gates has - alwaysright MU - 3/12 14:03:49

Haith .640, Gates .381 ... and Gates "recruiting" has - zounami MU - 3/12 14:06:48

You are mentally ill - alwaysright MU - 3/12 16:18:23

I posted facts. (nm) - zounami MU - 3/12 16:50:47

I'm glad you posted this - Johnny Parkour MU - 3/12 13:51:21

No such word as inastute, low IQ,& just another calca/sue DH - Macgrantt MU - 3/12 16:21:16

.640 vs .381 — no counterpoints, Mr. Member-For-One-Day? (nm) - zounami MU - 3/12 13:54:44

haith is officially at .555 in conf play at mizzou(nm) - TigerA MU - 3/12 13:25:59

Come on, you are better than that(nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 3/12 14:06:40

i appreciate that (nm) - TigerA MU - 3/12 14:23:12

Maybe I have you confused with that ape53 guy(nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 3/12 14:28:21

ajpe53 but close enough(nm) - TigerA MU - 3/12 14:34:04

I mean ape53. ajpe53 was a moran (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 3/12 15:20:00

lol(nm) - TigerA MU - 3/12 16:13:56

no, I don't think he is (nm) - zounami MU - 3/12 14:07:19

Nope, those wins happened. MU's clown AD self-imposing - zounami MU - 3/12 13:27:41

nope(nm) - TigerA MU - 3/12 13:28:12

you're proving my point about racist MU fans who (still) - zounami MU - 3/12 13:29:37

You are proving everyone's point that you are a moran - TheWildcat MU

- 3/12 13:33:09

Reading comprehension. I never said Haith's first roster - zounami MU - 3/12 13:35:41

Haith's best season ever was with someone else's roster - TheWildcat MU

- 3/12 13:36:57

same with Gates... but Haith went 30-5 (Kenpom #7) - zounami MU - 3/12 13:40:21

Gates had a good team, an atrocious team, and a good team - TheWildcat MU

- 3/12 13:44:07

so... Haith's "decent team" was Kenpom #25, and Gates' - zounami MU - 3/12 13:46:38

Gates good team advanced in the tourney and finished - TheWildcat MU

- 3/12 13:50:08

got blown out by 15-seed Princeton, squandering the - zounami MU - 3/12 13:52:21

Haith...lost.....to a 15 seed. Both made the toruney 2/3. - TheWildcat MU

- 3/12 13:53:41

Correct, both did... because the NCAAT is fluky and highly - zounami MU - 3/12 13:56:42

Both are 2/3. Gates inherited a program in much worse - TheWildcat MU

- 3/12 13:58:48

Wrong. Mike Anderson left the cupboard empty after that - zounami MU - 3/12 14:03:16

There is no one that agrees with you. (nm) - TheWildcat MU

- 3/12 14:13:45

lol, now make something else up out of thin air (nm) - zounami MU - 3/12 14:15:35

This is going well for you up above. Lol(nm) - TheWildcat MU

- 3/12 14:26:01

you asked an irrelevant question about a point I never made - zounami MU - 3/12 14:28:37

RE: you asked an irrelevant question about a point I never made - TheWildcat MU

- 3/12 14:29:23

The question you asked is irrelevant to those points. (nm) - zounami MU - 3/12 14:33:44

You answered it with "wrong"..why didn't you say what you - TheWildcat MU

- 3/12 14:38:45

This kind of interchanges is what zounami lives for, you're - Macgrantt MU - 3/12 16:40:32

lol, i didn't think i doing that well here but you just - TigerA MU - 3/12 13:30:42

I was joking about the racism, but I'm serious about MU fans - zounami MU - 3/12 13:32:24

So we ignore 15 years of him as a head coach (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/12 13:33:12

apples-to-apples is their performance at MU (and actually - zounami MU - 3/12 13:48:25

That leads to incorrect assessments of coaches - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/12 13:52:27

no, it leads to a fair-and-accurate comparison of when they - zounami MU - 3/12 14:04:55

It leads to being wrong. Both coaches have 1 season - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/12 14:07:32

you've got it backwards... apples-to-oranges comparisons - zounami MU - 3/12 14:08:46

So 3 years as a coach tells us more of his ability than - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/12 14:12:47

his ability to win at MU, yes (nm) - zounami MU - 3/12 14:13:20

Seems fishy that he never replicated that season (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/12 14:22:35

pre-NIL, Mizzou was the easiest place to win of all - zounami MU - 3/12 14:29:30

Or basing your opinion of him based on that 1 season - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/12 14:42:09

What’s our payroll again? - Hickeytime MU

- 3/12 13:25:47

Kim Anderson fans scapegoat Haith for Kim’s failures - FIJItiger MU

- 3/12 13:17:16

Gates is better than Kim, but that's it. (nm) - zounami MU - 3/12 13:49:12

Tim Fuller was ahead of his time with "recruiting". - Chievous'Bandaid MU - 3/12 13:30:47

There are zero credible allegations Fuller paid players(nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 3/12 13:44:21

correct (nm) - zounami MU - 3/12 14:07:52

I guess we know different people. nm - Chievous'Bandaid MU - 3/12 13:50:03

I’m open to learning about any such credible allegations (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 3/12 14:09:56

get ready for some *crickets* - zounami MU - 3/12 14:11:38

Poor guy is about to be out of a job again for working for - TheWildcat MU

- 3/12 13:37:49

I agree with this and I also think Haith is average at - TheWildcat MU

- 3/12 13:19:29

At MU, Haith was slightly above avg - FIJItiger MU

- 3/12 13:40:22

who possibly argues that?(nm) - TigerA MU - 3/12 13:32:12

Old people/low information fans(nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 3/12 13:41:13

You typically have to be above the age of 65 but - TheWildcat MU

- 3/12 13:36:05

again, after 3 seasons at MU... Haith .640, Gates .381 - zounami MU - 3/12 13:24:09

It depends on how you view cheating - Columbian Gold MU - 3/12 13:22:17

Not relevant. There are no accusations much less evidence - FIJItiger MU

- 3/12 13:42:42

The notion was reinforced by a cowardly AD who self-imposed - zounami MU - 3/12 14:11:10

I will agree that Haith was mistreated by MU and its fans(nm) - TheWildcat MU

- 3/12 13:10:16

it was awful... especially since he was a better coach than - zounami MU - 3/12 13:11:01

So far I'd put him about even with Gates. (nm) - TheWildcat MU

- 3/12 13:14:35

based on what? (nm) - zounami MU - 3/12 13:15:16

Gates has showed the ability to rebound. Haith got worse - TheWildcat MU

- 3/12 13:16:07

Haith probably got another year had he not had NCAA - Harvey Specter MU - 3/12 13:29:47

because he went 0-19 ... Haith never had a bad season... - zounami MU - 3/12 13:17:20

he has a winless conf record his last year here(nm) - TigerA MU - 3/12 13:26:32

Haith took over for our best coach since Norm. Gates - TheWildcat MU

- 3/12 13:17:55

GMAB. Gates' best player was an NBA first-rounder ... - zounami MU - 3/12 13:22:20

Haith inherited 2 NBA players and another who got drafted. (nm) - TheWildcat MU

- 3/12 13:24:38

who was the first-rounder he inherited? (nm) - zounami MU - 3/12 13:25:16

That first rounder isn't currently an NBA player and is a G - TheWildcat MU

- 3/12 13:27:30

and Haith went 30-5 (Kenpom #7) with those players (nm) - zounami MU - 3/12 13:41:32

Yes he should have. It was built to win. (nm) - TheWildcat MU

- 3/12 13:45:05

Haith left on his own. - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/12 13:17:06

He was forced out and you know it (nm) - TheWildcat MU

- 3/12 13:17:34

Not really. He wanted an extension and didn’t get it - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/12 13:21:26

correct (nm) - zounami MU - 3/12 13:17:43

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