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No Conservative can support DOGE

Posted on: March 10, 2025 at 13:59:14 CT
JG MU
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This being a JG post, I will tell you why:

1) Everything DOGE is doing is illegal (Unconstitutional).
Even if the corrupt Supreme bench legislators were to say otherwise, it is. The absolute most authority they have is
to audit the books and make recommendations.

2) Everything DOGE is doing is fundamentally dishonest.
For example
http://tigerboard.com/boards/view.php?message=19442011

This post from MU4ever contains a repost from Elon Musk himself touting 175 billion in savings
(the debt clock itself is an issue as of now its around
185 billion in purported "savings" and rising swiftly, but I digress). DOGE's own website says they have saved
105 billion thus far- at this very moment

https://doge.gov/savings

Now when that site was boasting savings of 55 billion it was found they only had receipts for 2 billion and maybe had actual savings of 8 billion.

see my informative post on the subject
http://tigerboard.com/boards/view.php?message=19421845.

Another example the 50 million in rubbers to Gaza.
Turns out that was 50 million in aid, with a few thousand for prophylactics.
They have offered zero proof of any waste, abuse or fraud. They have offered taglines of things they do not like and called them waste, abuse and fraud however.
I have seen plenty of such thing over the past 50 years but then when you get an explanation of what the grant/spending/whatever, I may not agree to the spending but at least it made some sense as to why it came about

etc etc etc

3) They can not POSSIBLY be doing a thorough job. It's not even laughably in the most extreme realm of possibility. I was audited twice by the IRS (first time they gave me a 14 K refund, second time it came out as was filed- take that IRS!). The first one took 2 months
and the second took about 6 weeks. So Musk would have you believe that he has audited dozens of agencies, literally millions of people and certainly hundreds of millions of documents (at least) in a six week period. He could not have possibly audited the tiniest government agency in twice that time.

4) The scale of the whole thing is off by thousands of times. Even if every dime of Musk's reported savings was true. Just the interest of the remaining debt dwarfs
what was allegedly saved (and remember it has saved a maybe being generous 15% of that) by over 10 times.
Its like being 50,000 in debt on a credit card and cutting this years charging of 2000 dollars by 10 dollars. Its just ridiculous.
5) it has caused untold chaos, pain, agnst in what could have been totally avoided by telling every agency their funding would be cut 1% (as a start)

6) and this is the main reason no conservative can support it- Its entirely a dog and pony show to not cut spending , deficit or debt at all. It's all so they can
ADD over 100 billion in spending from the previous year
(or 1 trillion in doublespeak parlance).
As I said previously - had they frozen all spending to 2024 levels and merely added 50 billion to the budget
we would be 50 BILLION better off than we are going to be.

But here are some additional reasons it is all so bogus:
-how many billions of dollars has it cost to print new maps for the US government to rename (for 4 lousy years at that) Mt Denali and the Gulf of Mexico?
-How many billions to remove climate change from government textbooks and websites?
-how many billions to remove DEI and CRT from government publications (or to discard those already printed)
- how many millions for the trump to golf?

There are NO savings, no fraud charges, not even a casual tisk tisk to the military -where most of the waste, fraud and abuse shirley is.

Thank you for your time, and notice that trumplicans will not address the points, as per the always. _
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No Conservative can support DOGE - JG MU - 3/10 13:59:14
          HAHAHA (enter) - Wildcat KSU - 3/10 14:22:43
               IKR - JG MU - 3/10 14:32:58
                    Why are you replying to a reply to someone you're "ignoring" - MIZ45 MU - 3/10 14:46:39
                    There's no lie too stupid - Wildcat KSU - 3/10 14:36:32
                         Not oddly, you can't find but one(nm) - JG MU - 3/10 14:44:54
                              Well you're clearly reading my and Wildcat's discussion - MIZ45 MU - 3/10 14:47:38
                              They've been thrown in your face repeatedly - Wildcat KSU - 3/10 14:45:53
                                   then find one , lying POS - JG MU - 3/10 14:50:00
                                        Here's another one - Wildcat KSU - 3/10 15:36:18
                                             I violated zero rules - JG MU - 3/10 15:58:15
                                                  You literally called Trump supporters to be droned - Calca STL - 3/10 16:09:51
                                        JG - "I am 100% against reparations" - MIZ45 MU - 3/10 14:59:24
     Impoundment is not Unconstitutional - Spanky KU - 3/10 14:12:04
     Those are all just liberal talking points - NPDTiger MU - 3/10 14:08:39
          Have you noticed not one person has addressed - JG MU - 3/10 14:33:54
          The board conservative.....that screeches we don't have - MIZ45 MU - 3/10 14:21:55
               that dude is no conservative - NPDTiger MU - 3/10 14:43:16
                    LOL how am I not? - JG MU - 3/10 14:45:31
                         RE: LOL how am I not? - MIZ45 MU - 3/10 14:48:46
     You can’t write one sentence that has any - Outsider MU - 3/10 14:06:58
          BAM - JG MU - 3/10 14:08:00
               Nailed what…Ace? (nm) - Outsider MU - 3/10 14:08:34
                    Well first of all- all the excellent points - JG MU - 3/10 14:10:04
                         Why address drivel and lies? (nm) - Outsider MU - 3/10 14:11:12
                              I don't . See : you - JG MU - 3/10 14:11:54
                                   Your meds fuked up again? Quit playing with them. (nm) - Outsider MU - 3/10 14:12:40
     Their ONLY authority is 'to audit the books and make - JeffB MU - 3/10 14:03:06
          LOL pretty much - JG MU - 3/10 14:04:13
               What else is Musk doing? (nm) - JeffB MU - 3/10 14:04:47
                    I don't know exactly - JG MU - 3/10 14:05:51
                         It is said that very strong accusations require very strong - JeffB MU - 3/10 14:07:07
                              I didn't make any accusations - JG MU - 3/10 14:08:55
                                   '1) Everything DOGE is doing is illegal (Unconstitutional).' - JeffB MU - 3/10 14:10:46
                                        The proof of that particular point - JG MU - 3/10 14:12:37
                                             So evident you can't produce it - Wildcat KSU - 3/10 14:23:36
                                                  RE: So evident you can't produce it - JG MU - 3/10 14:31:17
                                                       one of the funadmental errors in you "logic" is that - blake1771 MU - 3/11 00:10:52
                                                       Thanks - Wildcat KSU - 3/10 14:35:45
                                                            My God he's a stupid phuck. - TIGERROAR MU - 3/10 14:48:10
                                                                 tigerroaringy maximus - JG MU - 3/10 14:49:06
                                                            He is interferring with the paying the debt part - JG MU - 3/10 14:47:56
                                                                 How is compiling reports and giving them to Trump &/or the - JeffB MU - 3/10 14:56:00
                                                                      LOL that is not what he is bragging about doing - JG MU - 3/10 15:01:12
                                                                           What evidence do you have that Musk is personally firing - JeffB MU - 3/10 15:07:50
                                                                                JG doesn't know how anything, and I mean literally anything - Seagull MU - 3/10 15:18:22
                                                                                     Like you, I can't think of a single damn thing - JG MU - 3/10 15:57:04
                                                                                          I'm sure you can't - Seagull MU - 3/10 15:57:37
                                                                                               name two - JG MU - 3/10 16:02:17
                                                                                                    Here’s you saying Trump would lose to Kamala - Calca STL - 3/10 16:05:03
                                                                                     Man, that is a very good summary of the situation(nm) - Wildcat KSU - 3/10 15:33:29
                                                                                The President has no such authority - JG MU - 3/10 15:17:49
                                                                                     Well, I do appreciate you answering honestly for once - Wildcat KSU - 3/10 15:34:05
                                                                                          thanks - JG MU - 3/10 16:03:13
                                                       Article I, Section 8, Clause 1: - JeffB MU - 3/10 14:35:25
                                                            Whoops (nm) - MIZ45 MU - 3/10 14:44:52
                                                                 3 people have asked - Wildcat KSU - 3/10 14:46:46
                                                                      LOL answered, nitwit - JG MU - 3/10 14:48:30
                                                            He'll have to check back with whatever leftwing prog - Wildcat KSU - 3/10 14:36:59
                                   Yes you did, you accused them of violating the - Bosalphus KC - 3/10 14:10:13
                                        thats a fact - JG MU - 3/10 14:11:25
                                             What part of the constitution did they violate? (nm) - Bosalphus KC - 3/10 14:14:16
                                                  sigh - JG MU - 3/10 14:17:31
                                                       How is DOGE violating that? (nm) - Bosalphus KC - 3/10 14:28:04
                                                            literally and figuratively - JG MU - 3/10 14:50:44
                         RE: another lie. - Achmed MU - 3/10 14:06:44
                         So you don't know but you know he's - Bosalphus KC - 3/10 14:06:11
          Yes - Bosalphus KC - 3/10 14:04:10
               I can't make up such a hypocritical ironic lie - JG MU - 3/10 14:04:55
                    No true conservative cares about collateral damage done - Bosalphus KC - 3/10 14:05:53
                         Nope as I showed you there is not - JG MU - 3/10 14:07:32
                              Yes, I would like to see the federal gov't shrink - Bosalphus KC - 3/10 14:08:32
                                   Which is why no conservative can support - JG MU - 3/10 14:14:34
                                        You just said they're cutting agencies (nm) - Bosalphus KC - 3/10 14:15:40
                                             Besides all of it, what don't you understand ,Sal? - JG MU - 3/10 14:18:59
     Better go burn your Tesla in protest. We know how - Logan STL - 3/10 14:03:04
     Yeah. Conservatives think "Spending is good" - AWOLTiger KC - 3/10 14:01:25
          I would ask how you could come to THAT conclusion - JG MU - 3/10 14:03:49
     RE: No need to address your lies. - Achmed MU - 3/10 14:01:23
     who did you copy this from?(nm) - tman MU - 3/10 14:00:57
          thanks - JG MU - 3/10 14:02:49
     NOT MUH GOV'T SPENDING! (nm) - Bosalphus KC - 3/10 14:00:28




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