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RE: the agency i referred to is USAID and DOGE can

Posted on: February 4, 2025 at 09:50:04 CT
meatiger MU
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so you believe that an agency should not be made by EO, correct?

I would agree with that.

So neither USAID nor DOGE should have never have been started, whether self-terminating or now.

If, as Sparky claims, an agency was needed to "carry out" the law, then the Executive should have gone to the legislature to request such a law get passed/updated.
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Can somebody explain to me what's illegal - Bosalphus KC - 2/4 07:41:08
     An argument could be made for anything. - meatiger MU - 2/4 09:10:04
     Most of the hysteria is obviously coming from the - Outsider MU - 2/4 08:46:57
     In the eyes of Congress it is illegal to do anything - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/4 08:46:08
          Congress controls spending, not the president. If - SparkyStalcup MU - 2/4 08:48:10
               i'm skeptical - SwampTiger MU - 2/4 09:06:25
                    I get that - DC Jayhawk KU - 2/4 09:15:48
                         what's the relevance of what is usually done? - SwampTiger MU - 2/4 09:29:40
                              I mention it because - DC Jayhawk KU - 2/4 10:25:40
                                   let's hope this is different though, right? (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 2/4 11:11:07
                                        Yes, because it's not sustainable - DC Jayhawk KU - 2/4 11:28:41
                         They should have handled that job better then (nm) - Bosalphus KC - 2/4 09:18:46
                         well, usually is what we should all be after with a 36T - 90Tiger STL - 2/4 09:16:44
                              That's fine, - DC Jayhawk KU - 2/4 09:34:20
                                   the effort is like six dudes - SwampTiger MU - 2/4 10:03:21
                                   What makes you think DOGE is stopping at USAID? - 90Tiger STL - 2/4 09:38:44
                                        I don't think it's stopping just there - DC Jayhawk KU - 2/4 11:06:17
                                             no, they are picking a massively corrupt agency and getting - 90Tiger STL - 2/4 11:50:42
                                   No, all cuts are good cuts - Bosalphus KC - 2/4 09:37:04
               You think every single dollar is approved - Bosalphus KC - 2/4 08:57:14
               So every line item USAID is sending $ to is detailed in the - TGR84 MU - 2/4 08:50:59
                    No federal department or agency does that, though. (nm) - DC Jayhawk KU - 2/4 09:12:36
               Yes he can - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/4 08:50:15
                    The Constitution disagrees. (nm) - haeffb MU - 2/4 08:53:06
                         does the constitution support POTUS creating an agency - 90Tiger STL - 2/4 09:12:07
                              If Congress passes a law requiring creation of that agency - haeffb MU - 2/4 09:50:46
                         LMAO(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/4 09:03:17
                         do share! (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 2/4 08:55:33
                         No, it is an Executive Branch entity - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/4 08:54:47
                              my issue is that the "agency" was created by EO (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 2/4 09:01:48
                                   I get that, but in my response to haeffb - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/4 09:30:54
                                   RE: my issue is that the "agency" was created by EO (nm) - meatiger MU - 2/4 09:19:53
                                        you haven't read the EO creating DOGE have you? here - 90Tiger STL - 2/4 09:37:31
                                        what is the DOGE budget, meat? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 2/4 09:34:12
                                             I do not know - meatiger MU - 2/4 09:36:54
                                                  the agency i referred to is USAID and DOGE can - 90Tiger STL - 2/4 09:39:39
                                                       RE: the agency i referred to is USAID and DOGE can - meatiger MU - 2/4 09:50:04
                                                            That wasn't my argument, meat, it was that if it was made - 90Tiger STL - 2/4 09:55:31
                                                                 The thread is all over the place - meatiger MU - 2/4 09:58:52
                                                                      oh, and for the willfully ignorant (you) - 90Tiger STL - 2/4 10:18:13
                                                                      and here you are, ignoring all the absurd, corruption and w - 90Tiger STL - 2/4 10:14:17
                                                                           RE: and here you are, ignoring all the absurd, corruption and w - meatiger MU - 2/4 10:20:24
                                                                      no, the thread, my part in it was: - 90Tiger STL - 2/4 10:12:32
     would shutting down USAID be illegal? - SwampTiger MU - 2/4 08:07:28
          Probably. The agency was created to implement the - SparkyStalcup MU - 2/4 08:51:16
               and it's being undone by the Executive - FootballRefugee MU - 2/4 10:45:37
               are you defending USAID or just pi$$ed that Trump's - 90Tiger STL - 2/4 09:46:07
          Defund any agency/department and it goes away..nm - tigertix MU - 2/4 08:30:25
               That's the purview of Congress nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 2/4 08:51:55
                    USAID was created by EO, not congress (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 2/4 09:40:51
               for a couple of years until a new POTUS comes in - Bosalphus KC - 2/4 08:35:21
                    RE: for a couple of years until a new POTUS comes in - SwampTiger MU - 2/4 08:37:59
                         agreed (nm) - Bosalphus KC - 2/4 08:39:57
          I read Congress voted to make it an - Bosalphus KC - 2/4 08:23:11
     nothing. libtards crying is glorious(nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 2/4 08:01:33
     Nothing - FootballRefugee MU - 2/4 07:53:39
          he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed (nm) - haeffb MU - 2/4 08:37:52
               are there laws not being faithfully executed? examples? (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 2/4 08:39:05
                    Congressional appropriations are laws (nm) - haeffb MU - 2/4 08:47:53
                         they don't mandate the spending of every dollar - FootballRefugee MU - 2/4 10:55:40
                         example? (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 2/4 08:54:12
          Trump will be the first in my lifetime not to spend it. Nm - tigertix MU - 2/4 07:55:53
               Lol(nm) - meatiger MU - 2/4 08:30:29
               oh, he'll spend it - Seagull MU - 2/4 07:59:47




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