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I often look at it from the opposite side. Common sense

Posted on: January 21, 2025 at 10:49:55 CT
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Should make the argument against something very difficult or just plain silly. Without stating the constitution says so, what is the argument for someone in the country, who isn’t a citizen or is in the country illegally, to have their child get automatic citizenship?
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Hypothetical - If China invaded the USA & one of their women - ZouMiz STL - 1/21 09:06:36
     We don’t even need a hypothetical extreme to know - Outsider MU - 1/21 10:07:27
          Sorry, but you're arguing what it SHOULD say and what it - hokie VT - 1/21 10:10:54
               Or you’re just stupid. Read it yourself (nm) - pickle MU - 1/21 10:36:51
               It should be simple to pass, but it won’t be. For those who - Outsider MU - 1/21 10:17:57
                    I would vote against it because the language is clear. The - hokie VT - 1/21 10:35:40
                    You keep using the term common sense. What do you - TigerMatt KC - 1/21 10:32:35
                         I think we both know what it means but to your question - Outsider MU - 1/21 10:34:19
                              Actually no we both don’t know what it means. It is often - TigerMatt KC - 1/21 10:37:27
                                   I often look at it from the opposite side. Common sense - Outsider MU - 1/21 10:49:55
                                        You are fundamentally arguing the writers of the - TigerMatt KC - 1/21 10:52:36
                                             RE: You are fundamentally arguing the writers of the - Outsider MU - 1/21 11:12:15
                                                  “Common sense” doesn’t say anything. If it were “common - TigerMatt KC - 1/21 11:24:24
                                                       RE: “Common sense” doesn’t say anything. If it were “common - Outsider MU - 1/21 11:27:30
                                                            Actually it does follow logic. Someone born in the - TigerMatt KC - 1/21 11:33:14
                                                                 So if said representative of a foreign govt decided to stay - Outsider MU - 1/21 12:00:53
                                                                      Nope. People on vacations are not living in the US. They - TigerMatt KC - 1/21 12:46:08
     That's an interesting scenario. I have always held that the - hokie VT - 1/21 09:52:06
     Of course they shouldn’t be a citizen - El-ahrairah BAMA - 1/21 09:42:00
     No one thinks that. No one who is in the US serving in the - TigerMatt KC - 1/21 09:27:10
          Agree (in part) with you - Spanky KU - 1/21 09:49:36
          ^ fascist (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 1/21 09:29:03
               Don’t go full retard (nm) - TigerMatt KC - 1/21 09:29:35
                    he’s long past that point - pickle MU - 1/21 09:35:41
                         RE: he’s long past that point - meatiger MU - 1/21 09:40:04
                              keep me out of your fantasies, meat (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 1/21 10:45:40
                         Wrong Board (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 1/21 09:36:49
                              This is what you get for being a Trump suck up - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/21 09:38:24
                                   That is out of left field and has nothing to do with 90 - TigerMatt KC - 1/21 09:39:44
                                        Gvmt is a myth, Matt, why are you here? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 1/21 10:46:02
                                             Why are you becoming dumber?(nm) - TigerMatt KC - 1/21 10:47:24
                                                  Wrong board (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 1/21 12:08:13
                    gosh, pickle, that hurts (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 1/21 09:30:25
                         I can’t help that you are being stupid. - TigerMatt KC - 1/21 09:37:00
                              Gvmt is a myth, and I didn't click that (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 1/21 10:46:20
          The left has been tweeting about it non stop since Trump - ZouMiz STL - 1/21 09:27:56
               So? It has nothing to do with your hypothetical.(nm) - TigerMatt KC - 1/21 09:28:43
                    It's the same situation. Illegal invaders (nm) - ZouMiz STL - 1/21 09:30:00
                         Wrong (nm) - pickle MU - 1/21 09:36:35
                              borders are imaginary, it's moot (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 1/21 10:46:46
                         It's not, and most replacement immigration is legal (nm) - Columbian Gold MU - 1/21 09:32:13
                         No it isn’t at all. You can make up BS claims, but some - TigerMatt KC - 1/21 09:31:07
                              Borders are imaginary, Matt (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 1/21 10:47:07
                                   And?(nm) - TigerMatt KC - 1/21 10:47:52
                                        RE: And?(nm) - 90Tiger STL - 1/21 12:09:01
     RE: Hypothetical - If China invaded the USA & one of their women - meatiger MU - 1/21 09:10:54
          Why is that? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/21 09:13:53
     China wouldn't invade the USA - Seagull MU - 1/21 09:08:13
          Did your handler tell you that? - mu7176grad MU - 1/21 09:22:46
               Taiwan is part of China - pickle MU - 1/21 09:36:19
                    lol read your post again - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/21 09:40:28
                         China 2 Electric Boogaloo(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 1/21 09:52:11
                         Is Alabama part of the US?(nm) - El-ahrairah BAMA - 1/21 09:47:03
                              Yes, of course - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/21 09:59:30
                                   lol no it isn’t - El-ahrairah BAMA - 1/21 10:13:10
                                        lol - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/21 10:20:32
                                             It does not - El-ahrairah BAMA - 1/21 12:19:15
                         oh dear (nm) - pickle MU - 1/21 09:42:24
                              That's what I said when I read your post - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/21 09:44:02
                                   What is the official name of Taiwan?(nm) - TigerMatt KC - 1/21 09:48:42
                                   sometimes i forget you’re stupid - pickle MU - 1/21 09:47:46
                                        His further responses show how little he knows about this(nm) - TigerMatt KC - 1/21 09:59:38
                                        Taiwan is an independent government - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/21 09:56:19
                                             What is the official name of Taiwan?(nm) - TigerMatt KC - 1/21 09:57:47
                                                  Republic of China - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/21 10:02:37
                                                       Do you know that Taiwan is the name of the island that - TigerMatt KC - 1/21 10:08:53
                                                            PROC does not have sovereignty over ROC - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/21 10:15:57
                                                                 The ROC name predates the CCP gaining control of the - TigerMatt KC - 1/21 10:21:13
                                                                      Yes, the CCP gained control of the mainland - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/21 10:22:20
                                                                           Wrong. The ROC was created when the Qing dynasty ended. - TigerMatt KC - 1/21 10:27:21
                                                                                ROC only claims that to make Beijing feel good - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/21 10:36:31
                                                                                     LOL.. ok whatever you say.(nm) - TigerMatt KC - 1/21 10:39:51
                                                            and according to One China policy, it's China (nm) - Seagull MU - 1/21 10:09:35
                                                                 Yep. Both sides believe in One China. It’s a dispute over - TigerMatt KC - 1/21 10:13:41
                                                                 According to an illegitimate government claim? - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/21 10:11:47
                                                                      No. Both the PROC and ROC claim they are the legitimate - TigerMatt KC - 1/21 10:14:30
                                                                      that's the US policy, dipsh*t (nm) - Seagull MU - 1/21 10:13:34
                                                                           US government? - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/21 10:17:30
                                        Easy to remember you are - mu7176grad MU - 1/21 09:52:58
                                   Is Peurto Rico called The United States? (nm) - Seagull MU - 1/21 09:47:36
                                        No, it's called Puerto Rico - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/21 09:53:01
                                             so Puerto Rico isn't part of the United States? - Seagull MU - 1/21 09:53:48
                                                  That's not what you asked - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/21 09:54:44
                                                       RE: That's not what you asked - pickle MU - 1/21 10:09:00
                                                       oh dear - Seagull MU - 1/21 09:55:03
                                                            You asked two different questions - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/21 09:57:24
               have you been to a doctor lately? (nm) - Seagull MU - 1/21 09:25:03
          You missed the entire point of the question (nm) - ZouMiz STL - 1/21 09:10:22
               Oh, now you’re in favor of the constitution? - pickle MU - 1/21 09:20:24
                    Article 1 Section 9 Clause 1 - Spanky KU - 1/21 14:05:26
                    Who cares, gvmt is a myth and you don't care about it - 90Tiger STL - 1/21 09:30:07
                    Article I, section 8 , clause 4 and 18(nm) - ZouMiz STL - 1/21 09:25:51
                         Nope. Naturalization is about citizenship not immigration - pickle MU - 1/21 09:34:23




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