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Should government trump rights or the other way around?

Posted on: December 10, 2024 at 11:46:01 CT
Seagull MU
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If you fall on the side of government, where is the line between protecting people like hokie's feelings and being a tyrant? Is it a "you know it when you see it" line or can it be defined?
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Should government trump rights or the other way around? - Seagull MU - 12/10 11:46:01
     Are you familiar with social contract theory? - Spanky KU - 12/10 12:09:41
          RE: Are you familiar with social contract theory? - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 14:11:24
          sounds like social justice theory (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 12:12:45
               You didn't take Western Civ in college? - Spanky KU - 12/10 12:14:16
                    RE: You didn't take Western Civ in college? - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 12:19:12
                         That is a non-answer - Spanky KU - 12/10 12:20:40
                              it's as relevant (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 12:32:23
                                   No-one would count Socrates, Hobbes, Locke, Rousseau, - Spanky KU - 12/10 12:49:14
                                        I would, and it's not a dodge, Spanky. I didn't sign a - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 13:09:14
                                             One doesn't need to sign the 'contract' - Spanky KU - 12/10 13:22:03
                                                  you're arguing the same argument social justice warriors - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 13:31:00
                                                  asinine (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 13:25:06
                                                       Socrates is an asinine 3rd grader. Right?(nm) - Spanky KU - 12/10 13:27:50
                                                            i see you have no time to read nor respond to my prio - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 13:43:41
                                                                 social contract theory begins with Socrates and continues to - Spanky KU - 12/10 14:09:36
                                                                      RE: social contract theory begins with Socrates and continues to - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 14:49:23
                                                                           You inherit a home in a HOA. Can you ignore the HOA rules - Spanky KU - 12/10 16:57:28
                                                                                you actually have the option of signing the HOA or - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 18:22:04
                                                                      RE: social contract theory begins with Socrates and continues to - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 14:10:11
                                                                           rejected by Mises.. no-one else(nm) - Spanky KU - 12/10 14:35:08
                                                                                RE: rejected by Mises.. no-one else(nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 14:47:20
                                                                                     He is wrong. It intrinsically justifies the existence of - Spanky KU - 12/10 15:10:50
                                                                                          lol, i'm glad you consider "earliest source" to now be - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 15:18:27
                                                                                               Not the final authority - Spanky KU - 12/10 15:27:51
                                                                                                    it's a theory and never "proved right" (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 15:30:07
                                                                                                         Just like natural law(nm) - Spanky KU - 12/10 16:53:57
                                                                                                              of course, now what? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 18:22:41
                                                                                                                   You linked natural law theorists to disprove social contract - Spanky KU - 12/10 20:39:34
                                                                                rockwell - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 14:46:20
                                                                                     Rockwell = Mises(nm) - Spanky KU - 12/10 15:11:04
                                                                                          oh, then hobbes, locke, rand, all the others = socrates (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 15:18:57
                                                                                Hume - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 14:44:31
                                                                                     You need to read Locke - Spanky KU - 12/10 15:14:31
                                                                                          done, now what? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 15:19:09
                                                                                               lol - Spanky KU - 12/10 16:59:54
                                                                                                    you have some very poor assumptions, Spanky (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 18:22:59
                                                                                That's another falsehood and only displays your ignorance - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 14:40:44
                                                                                lol, all of the others disagree with Socrates - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 14:37:30
                                                                                     there is no natural law, tigs. It's a theory(nm) - Spanky KU - 12/10 17:17:01
                                                                                          sure, of course. now what? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 18:22:31
                                                            RE: Socrates is an asinine 3rd grader. Right?(nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 13:31:46
                                                                 The 'founder of western philosophy' - Spanky KU - 12/10 13:49:24
                                                                      here, start by reading this and let the authorities appeal - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 14:01:10
                                                                           So claims the natural law THEORY guys. - Spanky KU - 12/10 14:08:07
                                                                                lmfao, you're mocking theorists now after backing one - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 14:09:07
                                                                                     no. I am pointing out that you think natural law theory is - Spanky KU - 12/10 14:44:32
                                                                                          what does that have to do with social contract THEORY? - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 14:46:10
                                                                                               You try (badly) to use natural law THEORY to - Spanky KU - 12/10 17:10:10
                                                                                                    Natural law is a philosophy, yes, call it "theory". How does - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 18:23:32
                                                                      you are appealing to authority and are asking me to - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 13:56:00
                                                                           "I didn't sign a social contract" - Spanky KU - 12/10 14:02:27
                                                                                nice job of ignoring every argument just presented to - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 14:09:48
     every law takes away someone's "rights" ... - tmcats KSU - 12/10 11:58:24
          at your age, you should have developed past a child's view - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 12:12:04
               you don't believe we should have public schools? - tmcats KSU - 12/10 12:45:31
                    I certainly don't "believe" "we" "should" have gvmt - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 13:10:45
                         yet, you offer no alternative, perhaps the nuns or women ... - tmcats KSU - 12/10 13:27:29
                              red herring (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 13:32:23
                                   yet again - obfuscation* - tmcats KSU - 12/10 13:34:47
                                        you're a socialist dbag - Seagull MU - 12/10 13:36:29
                                        RE: yet again - obfuscation* - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 13:35:12
                    Of course not. Does that blow your mind? (nm) - Seagull MU - 12/10 12:50:00
                         yes, i find it sorta of alarming ... - tmcats KSU - 12/10 12:51:50
                              What's alarming is the number of people who think they - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 13:12:15
                                   you rant like a two year old without explanation(nm) - tmcats KSU - 12/10 13:26:32
                                        that was an explanation most 2 year olds would understand - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 13:32:12
                                             we should all drop to your 2 year old level?(nm) - tmcats KSU - 12/10 13:35:28
                                                  RE: we should all drop to your 2 year old level?(nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 13:39:06
                              That's the problem with you big government pansies - Seagull MU - 12/10 12:53:30
                                   right, you'd rather have a monarch, i get it rather than ... - tmcats KSU - 12/10 12:56:17
                                        jfc, bob, how about not creating a straw man (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 13:12:42
                                        When you have to invent a strawman, you've lost - Seagull MU - 12/10 13:05:20
                                             both of you lack any cogent argument but rely instead - tmcats KSU - 12/10 13:25:32
                                                  I notice only that you've stopped defending your - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 13:32:50
          Promote the general welfare. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 12/10 12:08:42
               gracious ... - tmcats KSU - 12/10 12:46:23
                    lol, you think he doesn't know where the phrase you - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 13:14:26
                         your retorts are weaker than bill's hairpiece, much so(nm) - tmcats KSU - 12/10 13:28:20
                              RE: your retorts are weaker than bill's hairpiece, much so(nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 13:35:28
          no it doesn’t - pickle MU - 12/10 12:00:53




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