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Posted on: September 23, 2024 at 22:12:36 CT
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symbolic and borrowing from Platonic though on Forms came up with a doctrine where it is real flesh and blood in form, but can only be seen in the image of bread and wine. So while you are really eating Jesus’ flesh and drinking Jesus’ blood, you can only see it as bread and wine.

In essence, you are still teaching cannibalism.

“Having taken the bread and given it to His disciples, Jesus made it His own body, by saying, ‘This is My body,’ that is, the symbol of My body. There could not have been a symbol, however, unless there was first a true body. An empty thing or phantom is incapable of a symbol. He likewise, when mentioning the cup and making the new covenant to be sealed ‘in His blood,’ affirms the reality of His body. For no blood can belong to a body that is not a body of flesh” (Against Marcion, 4.40). - Tertullian

Catholics completely ignore the context that Irenaeus, Ignatius, Tertullian were writing in and that is against Docetism.
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Daily pot use linked to increased risk of deadly cancers - Spanky KU - 9/23 17:43:00
     Don't tell the dopers here but it's also linked go mental - alstl MU - 9/24 07:54:07
     if you take it thru a bong does it filter out the bad shyt?(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 9/23 22:38:32
          Only if you use distilled water and a charcoal filter. - Tigrrrr! MU - 9/24 08:22:46
          lol(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 9/23 22:42:13
     wrong board (nm) - pickle MU - 9/23 21:30:04
     If people choose to smoke pot - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/23 21:10:25
          Do you drink ever?(nm) - AWOLTiger KC - 9/23 21:52:49
               Yes(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/23 21:53:17
          Nothing that makes you feel good is harmless, especially - hefeweizen MU - 9/23 21:45:33
               That was tortured - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/23 21:51:18
                    She likes torture too(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 9/23 22:09:58
                         Climbing your way back - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/23 22:17:11
          But if they drink alcohol - meatiger MU - 9/23 21:29:51
               Who claims alcohol use is not bad for you(nm) - Spanky KU - 9/23 22:13:10
                    The responses have been interesting - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/23 22:18:04
                         RE: The responses have been interesting - sarasotatiger MU - 9/24 07:06:02
                         Yep. And twist themselves in knots in the process(nm) - Spanky KU - 9/23 22:40:21
               Extra meaty Monday - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/23 21:32:30
                    He was spot on(nm) - Panthera MU - 9/23 21:36:45
                         How? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/23 21:38:09
          you've consistently been the least compelling christian - 90Tiger STL - 9/23 21:22:59
               How is that unchristian? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/23 21:30:40
                    you're unchristian, not every post you make. you have - 90Tiger STL - 9/24 07:46:41
                    RE: How is that unchristian? - meatiger MU - 9/23 21:45:25
                         And drinking - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/23 21:50:23
          Jesus wept for the people as he rode into Jerusalem. - TigerMatt MISS - 9/23 21:17:28
               So you don't understand why he wept for them - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/23 21:31:44
                    RE: So you don't understand why he wept for them - 90Tiger STL - 9/24 07:47:03
     We need the government to really crack down.(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 9/23 20:02:36
          Just do the Bill. Clinton thing - Tigrrrr! MU - 9/23 20:48:10
          Definitely. Protect us from ourselves (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 9/23 20:14:33
     Never thought of that - mu7176grad MU - 9/23 19:33:48
     staying drunk everyday isn't good either, ask Kamy - MU-TULSA MU - 9/23 19:17:49
     So don't smoke it. You can eat it, and don't do it every - Carlos Rossi KC - 9/23 18:52:34
     RE: Daily pot use linked to increased risk of deadly cancers - patriot MU - 9/23 18:36:20
          RE: Daily pot use linked to increased risk of deadly cancers - sarasotatiger MU - 9/24 07:12:10
          you do realize the no smoking laws/rules will apply to - 90Tiger STL - 9/23 19:37:28
               Didn't mean jack shyte during the Chiefs Superbowl - Tigrrrr! MU - 9/23 20:59:40
                    RE: Didn't mean jack shyte during the Chiefs Superbowl - sarasotatiger MU - 9/24 07:15:07
                    so during the Chiefs' superbowls you may have to deal wit - 90Tiger STL - 9/23 21:23:44
                         Pretty obnoxious. Just because it's legalized doesn't mean - Tigrrrr! MU - 9/23 22:09:36
                              RE: Pretty obnoxious. Just because it's legalized doesn't mean - sarasotatiger MU - 9/24 07:17:02
                                   No, but I don't want to be around a group of kids - Tigrrrr! MU - 9/24 08:25:10
     That relates to very heavy use - raskolnikov MU - 9/23 18:30:12
          you did not read the article - Spanky KU - 9/23 18:38:45
               disorder = not average for average thc users (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 9/23 19:38:15
                    Daily use. - Spanky KU - 9/24 00:02:07
                         daily use isn't "average" and nothing confuses me (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 9/24 07:47:42
                              Read the article - Spanky KU - 9/24 09:04:17
               "On average" and the point driven home was - raskolnikov MU - 9/23 18:46:05
                    Daily pot use... "On average" means some do less than - Spanky KU - 9/23 18:50:14
                         RE: Daily pot use... "On average" means some do less than - sarasotatiger MU - 9/23 19:44:30
                         "do" - 90Tiger STL - 9/23 19:27:39
                              Yes. “Do” - Spanky KU - 9/23 21:07:09
                                   lol, they don't "do" alcohol or nicotine or pot, spanky (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 9/24 08:07:02
                                        People "do drugs".... It is a common term - Spanky KU - 9/24 10:29:05
                         Oh, you mean like, like, like, ya know math. Wow - raskolnikov MU - 9/23 19:00:01
                              Apparently you do not... because you said "I would consider - Spanky KU - 9/23 19:01:53
                                   Let it doggie(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 9/23 19:11:22
     RE: Daily pot use linked to increased risk of deadly cancers - sarasotatiger MU - 9/23 18:24:15
          he's an authoritarian, super high rules enforcement/order - 90Tiger STL - 9/23 18:26:13
               You didn't read the post, did you? - Spanky KU - 9/23 18:39:48
                    my post has nothing to do with this thread. It's 10 - 90Tiger STL - 9/23 19:27:58
               RE: he's an authoritarian, super high rules enforcement/order - sarasotatiger MU - 9/23 18:35:40
          Whoa, tell me more about this chicken thing - BigDave MU - 9/23 18:26:07
               RE: Whoa, tell me more about this chicken thing - sarasotatiger MU - 9/23 18:29:02
     Probably should hold your breath at Mass too. - TigerMatt MISS - 9/23 17:54:46
          lol, it’s very rarely used(nm) - tigerNkc KC - 9/23 20:30:27
          RE: Probably should hold your breath at Mass too. - sarasotatiger MU - 9/23 18:24:37
               You must also be ignorant on Catholic Mass - Spanky KU - 9/23 18:33:38
                    Well some priests went cheap and didn’t want to spend the - TigerMatt MISS - 9/23 18:41:49
                         You is very dumb and believe your heretics(nm) - Spanky KU - 9/23 23:06:06
                    RE: You must also be ignorant on Catholic Mass - sarasotatiger MU - 9/23 18:37:25
                         Well then, look it up instead of being ignorant and proving - Spanky KU - 9/23 18:42:04
          When was the last time you were at Mass? - Spanky KU - 9/23 17:58:36
               RE: When was the last time you were at Mass? - sarasotatiger MU - 9/23 18:26:37
                    I can attest it’s not used every Sunday(nm) - tigerNkc KC - 9/23 20:29:20
                         RE: I can attest it’s not used every Sunday(nm) - sarasotatiger MU - 9/24 07:25:49
                    As in the OP, it is about the AMOUNT and FREQUENCY of - Spanky KU - 9/23 18:32:05
                         So everyone knows breathing smoke is unhealthy. And thus - TigerMatt MISS - 9/23 18:43:59
                              Many people on here have said smoking pot is not bad for - Spanky KU - 9/23 19:00:24
                                   lol, spanky (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 9/23 19:39:19
                                        I know. They sure are dumb(nm) - Spanky KU - 9/23 23:49:03
               diversion (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 9/23 18:07:06
                    No. Incense is rarely used in Catholic Mass - Spanky KU - 9/23 18:29:07
                         RE: No. Incense is rarely used in Catholic Mass - sarasotatiger MU - 9/23 18:31:41
                              She will tell you incense is used at Christmas, Easter and - Spanky KU - 9/23 18:49:17
                                   That’s great. But your priest is either being cheap or - TigerMatt MISS - 9/23 20:26:27
                                   RE: She will tell you incense is used at Christmas, Easter and - sarasotatiger MU - 9/23 19:43:55
                                        False It is used at Christmas, Easter and funerals(nm) - Spanky KU - 9/23 23:37:19
                                             RE: False It is used at Christmas, Easter and funerals(nm) - sarasotatiger MU - 9/24 07:21:52
                                                  Outside of those services, incense is not commonly - Spanky KU - 9/24 11:15:45
                    The part he ignored points to smoke. Breathing in - TigerMatt MISS - 9/23 18:28:14
                         When people smoke pot, they hold the smoke in - Spanky KU - 9/23 18:52:20
                         correct (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 9/23 18:29:34
               I’m not a pagan cannibal. (nm) - TigerMatt MISS - 9/23 18:02:36
                    You just listen to the words of heretics - Spanky KU - 9/23 18:04:17
                         Acts 15:29… abstain from blood. Catholics: “We be drinking - TigerMatt MISS - 9/23 18:06:13
                              John 6:53-56 “ Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, - Spanky KU - 9/23 18:27:15
                                   he's not talking about food there(nm) - CulturedDan KC - 9/23 19:30:40
                                        Do you think Catholics drink blood?(nm) - Spanky KU - 9/23 21:08:42
                                   Do you believe Jesus, a Jew, was telling other Jews to break - TigerMatt MISS - 9/23 18:29:17
                                        What Mosaic Law?(nm) - Spanky KU - 9/23 19:03:41
                                             Leviticus 17 - TigerMatt MISS - 9/23 20:14:37
                                                  Do you think Catholics drink blood? - Spanky KU - 9/23 21:10:03
                                                       No, in the 12 century Catholics took something long held as - TigerMatt MISS - 9/23 22:12:36
                                                            You is dumb - Spanky KU - 9/23 22:14:34
                                             The one that Jesus said he came to not abolish but fulfill. - TigerMatt MISS - 9/23 20:08:15
     Need more fluoride in the drinking water so our teeth don't - shorty MU - 9/23 17:53:51
          What's the answer? Government control over consumer - pinkman MU - 9/23 19:08:49
               Flouride is also a seditive. Unfortunately for Big Gov. - shorty MU - 9/23 21:06:39
          fluoride ? - Spanky KU - 9/23 18:04:56




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