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People of a country, like people of a city, or a village, or
Posted on: July 28, 2024 at 21:46:08 CT
JeffB MU
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a homeowners association have a right to set standards for their community.
Let's do a little thought experiment... If a wandering Indian tribe set up camp in a place, do you think that you should have a right to wander in to some unused space in their camp and set up your own tent, or maybe a little more permanent lean-to? Would they have a right to object if you dug a little pit & put up your outhouse there?
Should the members of a homeowners association have a right to make a rule that no residents in their HOA could set up a whore house within their boundaries?
Should a city have a right to zone an area next to an old folks retirement center such that a company couldn't build a drag race strip next to it? Or a strip club next to a school or a Church?
Why should rules for visitors be any different than rules for those that live here?
My intention there wasn't really to have two different sets for rules. I was thinking more along the lines of how long they could stay. For instance, students are often given visas for a time consistent with their status as students.
I have relatives with a large orchard. They have some workers who come up from Mexico every year to help with the harvest. They get green cards for 8 months or so(?), and when the harvest season is over they go home.
Sometimes people apply for and are granted citizenship. But the country has and should have some standards for how many immigrants can become citizens in a given year, and some vetting qualifications for applicants. Are they drug gang members? Leaving their home country because the law is after them for murder or rape or whatever?
You are so anti-rights, it is a bit unbelievable, and any "fixes" you have to solve most of the problems that are below with more government, will just cause more problems.
You are speaking in generalities here, rather than speaking to what I have said. That isn't really useful to a fruitful discussion, and in fact is counterproductive in my opinion. In general, I am not for big government, and would like to see its revenues and spending shrunk dramatically.
Regarding drug laws, I agree that drug laws have not worked very well, but don't think that having no laws regarding the use of drugs whatsoever is the right answer either.
One reason for the huge fentanyl problem is the open borders, for instance. Closing that could go a long way towards reducing the staggering death toll.
Word is that China is sending a lot of the fentanyl our way. They consider themselves to be an adversary of ours, and perhaps in a discreet, cold war type of adversarial relationship with us. Perhaps they consider shipping fentanyl here is a bit of payback for the opium wars that devastated their country back in the day.
Let's do a little thought experiment... If a wandering Indian tribe set up camp in a place, do you think that you should have a right to wander in to some unused space in their camp and set up your own tent, or maybe a little more permanent lean-to? Would they have a right to object if you dug a little pit & put up your outhouse there?
Should the members of a homeowners association have a right to make a rule that no residents in their HOA could set up a whore house within their boundaries?
Should a city have a right to zone an area next to an old folks retirement center such that a company couldn't build a drag race strip next to it? Or a strip club next to a school or a Church?
Why should rules for visitors be any different than rules for those that live here?
My intention there wasn't really to have two different sets for rules. I was thinking more along the lines of how long they could stay. For instance, students are often given visas for a time consistent with their status as students.
I have relatives with a large orchard. They have some workers who come up from Mexico every year to help with the harvest. They get green cards for 8 months or so(?), and when the harvest season is over they go home.
Sometimes people apply for and are granted citizenship. But the country has and should have some standards for how many immigrants can become citizens in a given year, and some vetting qualifications for applicants. Are they drug gang members? Leaving their home country because the law is after them for murder or rape or whatever?
You are so anti-rights, it is a bit unbelievable, and any "fixes" you have to solve most of the problems that are below with more government, will just cause more problems.
You are speaking in generalities here, rather than speaking to what I have said. That isn't really useful to a fruitful discussion, and in fact is counterproductive in my opinion. In general, I am not for big government, and would like to see its revenues and spending shrunk dramatically.
Regarding drug laws, I agree that drug laws have not worked very well, but don't think that having no laws regarding the use of drugs whatsoever is the right answer either.
One reason for the huge fentanyl problem is the open borders, for instance. Closing that could go a long way towards reducing the staggering death toll.
Word is that China is sending a lot of the fentanyl our way. They consider themselves to be an adversary of ours, and perhaps in a discreet, cold war type of adversarial relationship with us. Perhaps they consider shipping fentanyl here is a bit of payback for the opium wars that devastated their country back in the day.
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People of a country, like people of a city, or a village, or - JeffB MU - 7/28 21:46:08