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RE: So drain the swamp by spending more??(nm)

Posted on: May 31, 2024 at 11:17:34 CT
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The OP linked several sources that were essentially complaining about specific actions Trump took that were a threat to the administrative state.

Here is another article by Jeffrey Tucker (libertarian I believe and not a Trump fan) who also refers to specific actions Trump took as POTUS that threatened the administrative state:

https://www.theepochtimes.com/opinion/the-3-layers-of-the-technocratic-state-5659561?utm_source=ref_share&utm_campaign=twitter&rs=SHRNCMMW


"Once Trump figured it all out, he assigned his trusted staff to do something about it. He issued a series of executive orders to get the middle state under control. In May of 2018, he took his first steps to gain some modicum of control over this deep state. He issued three executive orders (E.O. 13837, E.O. 13836, and E.O.13839) that would have diminished their access to labor-union protection when being pressed on the terms of their employment. Those three orders were litigated by the American Federation of Government Employees (AFGE) and sixteen other federal labor unions.

All three were struck down with a decision by a D.C. District Court. The presiding judge was Ketanji Brown Jackson, who was later rewarded for her decision with a nomination to the Supreme Court, which was affirmed by the U.S. Senate. The prevailing and openly stated reason for her nomination was said to be mostly demographic: she would be the first black woman on the Court. The deeper reason was more likely traceable to her role in thwarting actions by Trump which had begun the process of upending the administrative state. Jackson’s judgment was later reversed but Trump’s actions were embroiled in a juridical tangle that rendered them moot.
Later came a wonderful executive order that would have reclassified a range of middle-state employees as “Schedule F” and thus subject to control by the elected president. That order caused Washington to fly into wild panic. Joe Biden reversed the order on his first day in office. They have had four years now to pass restrictions to prohibit that from happening again.
As recently as last week, Biden’s Office of Personnel Management finalized rules to make it difficult for Trump to strip civil servants in policy making roles of their permanent positions. Yes, the plot against a possible second Trump term is fully engaged already."
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Trump and the administrative state... - MUTGR MU - 5/31 10:20:14
     only way the swamp is drained is when it runs out of money - Th8tnTiger MU - 5/31 10:34:36
          It has, see the debt. Commies forcing it(nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 5/31 10:57:48
               Trump outspent Obama - pickle MU - 5/31 11:05:06
          We have been there for decades now - meatiger MU - 5/31 10:40:31
          He'll do it after he builds the FBI a "big, beautiful new - CulturedDan KC - 5/31 10:56:57
          He did as much as he could under federal law(nm) - Spanky KU - 5/31 10:34:24
               So, the OP is meaningless?(nm) - CulturedDan KC - 5/31 10:57:30
                    I wouldn't say that - whether trump did or intended to or - 90Tiger STL - 5/31 11:03:17
               What proposals did he even put forth - meatiger MU - 5/31 10:42:30
                    He eliminated 5 regulations for every 1 new regulation(nm) - Spanky KU - 5/31 10:57:23
                         lol (nm) - pickle MU - 5/31 11:04:19
                         so...(nm) - meatiger MU - 5/31 10:58:10
               Is that all what we can hope for again? (nm) - ummmm MU - 5/31 10:41:01
          It would probably be one of the greatest - Sal CMSU - 5/31 10:28:53
               It won't happen. Drain the swamp is a canard. - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 5/31 10:31:00
               It would be, but Trump won't do it. - ummmm MU - 5/31 10:29:51
                    I don't think he will either (nm) - Sal CMSU - 5/31 10:31:35
          The administrative state is threatened by him - MUTGR MU - 5/31 10:28:26
               no it isn’t - pickle MU - 5/31 10:30:16
               Based on his actual track record, they should not be. (nm) - ummmm MU - 5/31 10:29:02
                    that is true, I do think there are some entities who perciev - 90Tiger STL - 5/31 11:06:58
                         He is a threat to the direction - meatiger MU - 5/31 11:15:05
                    And yet they are. nm. - MUTGR MU - 5/31 10:30:21
                         they aren’t. he’s no threat and has proven to be no threat - pickle MU - 5/31 10:31:36
                              RE: they aren’t. he’s no threat and has proven to be no threat - MUTGR MU - 5/31 10:32:18
                                   you’re living in theory and fantasy - pickle MU - 5/31 10:36:25
                                        LOL, I'm positng articles that detail what he actually did - MUTGR MU - 5/31 10:39:52
                                             Spending went up - meatiger MU - 5/31 10:41:20
                                                  He didn't run on cutting spending to my recollection. nm. - MUTGR MU - 5/31 10:48:06
                                                       So drain the swamp by spending more??(nm) - meatiger MU - 5/31 10:58:47
                                                            RE: So drain the swamp by spending more??(nm) - MUTGR MU - 5/31 11:17:34
                                                                 Dodge (nm) - pickle MU - 5/31 11:30:24
                                                       lol - pickle MU - 5/31 10:49:24
                                                  Record taxes collected - pickle MU - 5/31 10:42:19
                                                       He cut marginal tax rates for most tax payers. You are - MUTGR MU - 5/31 10:44:58
                                                            It is a fact that record tax revenues occurred under Trump - pickle MU - 5/31 10:46:55
                                                                 It is a fact that he cut marginal tax rates for most - MUTGR MU - 5/31 10:50:50
                                                                      that’s not a good thing (nm) - pickle MU - 5/31 10:51:51
                                                                           it's also not his argument (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 5/31 11:12:47
                                                                                it was in the post i replied to (nm) - pickle MU - 5/31 11:16:30
                                                       Even Trump bragged at his tariff collections(nm) - meatiger MU - 5/31 10:43:10
                                                            That's trade policy. You keep changing subjects. nm. - MUTGR MU - 5/31 10:52:34
                                             it was an opinion piece - pickle MU - 5/31 10:41:13
          it took him 4 years to learn - meatiger MU - 5/31 10:27:15




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