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and.. the judge was unwise

Posted on: February 28, 2024 at 14:31:59 CT
Spanky KU
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Fraud must be proved by “clear, cogent, and convincing evidence”. The judge in Trump's case applied the lower 'preponderance of the evidence' standard.

“Clear, cogent, and convincing evidence” denotes a quantum of evidence or degree of proof greater than a mere preponderance, but something less than proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
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     Is there any reason they may not trust him?(nm) - Toger STL - 2/28 16:43:56
     Billionaires and millionaires put their money to work - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/28 15:13:05
          RE: Billionaires and millionaires put their money to work - *M* KC - 2/28 15:16:59
               I will pass on your worthless biased advice - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/28 16:15:08
     Fat Donnie testified in a deposition he had $400M liquid - TigerJackSwartz MU - 2/28 14:53:15
          RE: Fat Donnie testified in a deposition he had $400M liquid - *M* KC - 2/28 14:55:07
     You probably aren't aware, but most people with high net - BH O'bonga MU - 2/28 14:25:38
          RE: You probably aren't aware, but most people with high net - *M* KC - 2/28 14:28:36
               Those arent even comparable (nm) - tman MU - 2/28 14:35:32
     Latitia is very unlikely to alllow the guy a pass on 80% of - raskolnikov MU - 2/28 14:20:25
          Latitia doesn't have that power(nm) - Spanky KU - 2/28 14:27:41
          you aren’t a good person (nm) - pickle MU - 2/28 14:25:39
          All b/c Trump apparently committed fraud - Sal CMSU - 2/28 14:22:06
               Due to fact that family has perpetuated patterns of fraud - raskolnikov MU - 2/28 14:26:54
                    You arent a reliable source on anything. - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/28 16:17:03
                    Who was the victim? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 2/28 14:29:22
                         and.. the judge was unwise - Spanky KU - 2/28 14:31:59
                              Did the judge specifically say he used - Sal CMSU - 2/28 14:34:14
                                   He certainly did.... and then cited some car accident case - Spanky KU - 2/28 14:35:25
                                        RE: He certainly did.... and then cited some car accident case - *M* KC - 2/28 14:36:59
                                             It was in his ruling.... - Spanky KU - 2/28 14:39:48
                                                  RE: It was in his ruling.... - *M* KC - 2/28 14:44:04
                    As you are aware, the judge will e lapped around n appeal - Spanky KU - 2/28 14:29:14
     The bond requires CASH. Noone has cash laying around. - Coors4bob STL - 2/28 14:12:05
          RE: The bond requires CASH. Noone has cash laying around. - *M* KC - 2/28 14:12:56
               And that is a percent of what net worth? - Coors4bob STL - 2/28 14:16:21
                    RE: And that is a percent of what net worth? - *M* KC - 2/28 14:20:17
                         Don Trump has never been a billionaire - raskolnikov MU - 2/28 14:24:02
                              RE: Don Trump has never been a billionaire - *M* KC - 2/28 14:25:46
                                   I do the work friend - raskolnikov MU - 2/28 14:28:26
                                        I'm sure you do plenty of work. But you still don't know - *M* KC - 2/28 14:29:18
     yeah, it's great when the state tries to bankrupt people - ashtray UF - 2/28 14:06:12
          The state will not be aggravated by citizens. It makes them - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 2/28 15:44:28
          RE: yeah, it's great when the state tries to bankrupt people - *M* KC - 2/28 14:15:21
          You forgot one thing though, ashtray - ummmm MU - 2/28 14:07:02
          Is that why he is selling sneakers? - Ace A - 2/28 14:11:21
               Those are licensed, not Trump. - Coors4bob STL - 2/28 14:12:56
               I assume he's selling sneakers to make money. - ummmm MU - 2/28 14:12:03
                    I asked a question. Did you think I was making a point? - Ace A - 2/28 14:30:54
                         he answered the question directly, doc - Sal CMSU - 2/28 14:48:27
          No way - JayHoaxH8r MU - 2/28 14:20:04
          hahahah charge him with perjury then - JG MU - 2/28 14:10:07
               says the fraudster himself (nm) - Sal CMSU - 2/28 14:19:34
                    whenever I tesify under oath and lie - JG MU - 2/28 15:23:03
          Why are you liberal so afraid to let him appeal(nm) - tman MU - 2/28 14:07:07
               he is welcome to appeal - JG MU - 2/28 14:13:33
                    GUBMINT............ATTACK!!!!!!! (nm) - MIZ45 MU - 2/28 14:29:25
                    and you think that's a good thing - Sal CMSU - 2/28 14:20:21
                         thanks - JG MU - 2/28 15:14:01
                              You call for the state to murder your political foes - MIZ45 MU - 2/28 19:18:05
                    RE: he is welcome to appeal - *M* KC - 2/28 14:14:30
                         good catch - JG MU - 2/28 14:15:18
                              ^^^^ Not the "fiscal conservative, social libertarian" take - MIZ45 MU - 2/28 14:30:48
               Why, as an attorney, are you against following NY law? - Ace A - 2/28 14:10:25
                    It is an excessive judgement without a victim. - Coors4bob STL - 2/28 14:14:25
                         In addition, attorneys have an ethical obligation - tman MU - 2/28 14:51:09
                              Donald. Donald, Jr. Eric. - Ace A - 2/28 14:59:33
                         I've posted the relevant statute and referenced prior cases - Ace A - 2/28 14:37:34
     Paying $100 million = poor? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 2/28 13:58:46
          that would be the bond , not the cash - JG MU - 2/28 14:06:28
               that doesn't equate to being poor (nm) - Sal CMSU - 2/28 14:17:34
     All billionaires are highly leveraged - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 2/28 13:58:43
          yeah even for the troll that is *M* - Sal CMSU - 2/28 13:59:18
          Most likely He has no funds(nm) - tman MU - 2/28 13:56:35
               If he did it would mean he considers cash a better - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 2/28 13:59:48
                    RE: If he did it would mean he considers cash a better - *M* KC - 2/28 14:11:03
                         Good for him. He's betting with his fellow pedo-satanists - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 2/28 14:40:57
                              RE: Good for him. He's betting with his fellow pedo-satanists - *M* KC - 2/28 14:45:16
                                   Hint: the 4,400,000% returns he just delivered ain't - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 2/28 15:02:05
                                        RE: Hint: the 4,400,000% returns he just delivered ain't - *M* KC - 2/28 15:08:37
                                             No, that's not what he does. He invests in anything that - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 2/28 15:12:06
                                                  RE: No, that's not what he does. He invests in anything that - *M* KC - 2/28 15:18:53
                                                       Why do you twist things around just to keep attacking - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 2/28 15:35:22
                                                            RE: Why do you twist things around just to keep attacking - *M* KC - 2/28 15:39:20
                                                                 That's not investing cash. Cash does not have a return. - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 2/28 15:42:18
                                                                      You're a fool - *M* KC - 2/28 16:03:04
                                                                           Only a fool would consider money market or demand deposits - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 2/28 16:58:07
                                                                                So every accountant who has lived in the last 100 years - *M* KC - 2/28 17:19:17




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