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Vanover is wildly unimpressive and one of the strangest

Posted on: February 20, 2024 at 11:01:29 CT
FIJItiger MU
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Signings I can recall. He doesn’t fit at all.

That said he was 1st team all conference and the conference DPOY last year (albeit at a smaller conference) and missed the beginning of the year because of improperly handling NBA workouts. He is not completely untalented nor able to contribute positively. A better coaching job would figure out a way to leverage his skills and make him an asset. Playing zero minutes in favor of a walkon on a team that desperately needs that production is killing.

Edited by FIJItiger at 11:02:13 on 02/20/24
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Just for the record, with 11:30 remaining MU had 76% - FIJItiger MU - 2/20 10:21:17
     Great observation... just needed a little more luck I guess(nm) - oldtgr MU - 2/20 13:50:28
     With 40 minutes remaining - tigrito MU - 2/20 13:01:20
          you don't know how chances/odds work(nm) - TigerA MU - 2/20 13:16:50
     No context, & what would Jesus & Vanover offer? Majack - Sigma MU - 2/20 11:35:20
          76% was calculated in real time during the game - FIJItiger MU - 2/20 11:46:25
               76% was based on what has happen in similar circumstances - Sigma MU - 2/20 12:21:19
                    No it’s an exact and unchallenged factual - FIJItiger MU - 2/20 12:24:33
                         The larger point is this team lacks talent!(nm) - Sigma MU - 2/20 14:01:44
     DG is MGM's best customer???????? nm - tigertix MU - 2/20 11:25:06
     I note one item you ignored....... - GA Tiger MU - 2/20 11:13:24
          Can we just bench Honor and Carter - bagpipertiger MU - 2/20 11:26:32
          Coaching has been considerably troubling and bordering - FIJItiger MU - 2/20 11:19:36
               I am biased because I have met Rich Grawer on several - TheWildcat MU - 2/20 11:22:03
                    How many practices did Rich observe? - haeffb MU - 2/20 13:00:17
                    He & his father were coaching Gods. Ask SLU!l - Sigma MU - 2/20 11:36:00
                    When did he say that? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/20 11:23:55
                         He said on a radio show in STL probably 2-3 weeks ago - TheWildcat MU - 2/20 11:29:12
                              wow, pretty shocking he'd say that. thinking it i get but - TigerA MU - 2/20 11:32:29
                                   That wasn't the exact quote but you could tell what he - TheWildcat MU - 2/20 11:33:28
                                        yeah, that def ain't a compliment (nm) - TigerA MU - 2/20 11:33:59
                              Which radio show? - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/20 11:30:51
                         why do you care? you will still defend HCDG to the - SuperTone MU - 2/20 11:25:55
                              I would like to see the quote - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/20 11:29:12
     The scrimmage feel is real. nm - JohnGalt MU - 2/20 11:02:57
     The East injury was devistating as we saw - Eggs MU - 2/20 10:45:46
          The end of close games are when defense/rebounding matter - gaber c. MU - 2/20 10:57:12
               It’s the offense that’s killed Mizzou the most - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/20 11:04:07
                    It'll be interesting reading your take on the losses - gaber c. MU - 2/20 11:23:56
                         If Gates hits on a pg and a 4/5 in the portal - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/20 11:27:44
          Without East we can’t compete. - FIJItiger MU - 2/20 10:56:01
     Coach needs just go with youth from here out, nm - MU-TULSA MU - 2/20 10:39:33
          Should have been done a month ago. (nm) - TheWildcat MU - 2/20 10:41:00
               True.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 2/20 11:07:54
               The youth have been playing for a while (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/20 10:43:01
                    Honor is still averaging over 31 mpg. Why?(nm) - TheWildcat MU - 2/20 10:53:33
                         Gates would play him and Majak 40 if he could (nm) - Uncle John MU - 3/10 15:43:35
                         The games East was out Mizzou had 4 guards - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/20 10:59:27
                    Prior to last game, Shaw avged 12 mpg over last 6 - FIJItiger MU - 2/20 10:52:58
                         Pierce has been out with an illness - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/20 10:56:58
                              Shaw is our youth, that is not playing our youth (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/20 11:06:06
                                   Shaw is 5th on the team in minutes - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/20 11:08:01
                                        They were playing minutes, but not during the crucial game - FIJItiger MU - 2/20 11:11:18
                                             Butler, Robinson and Shaw - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/20 11:13:55
                                                  I recall them taking a lot of big shots in key situations (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/20 11:20:52
                                                       There’s a difference between being in the game - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/20 11:23:15
                                                            Agree, MU is not playing through its youth (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/20 11:25:45
                                                                 And shouldn’t be. They need to be better role players - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/20 11:30:11
                                                                      About 10 posts up you said they were doing that (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/20 11:50:11
                                                                           I said they were playing - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/20 11:52:28
     Sounds like you are starting to get it.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 2/20 10:30:51
     Gates is a clusterfxck - mu7176grad MU - 2/20 10:26:48
          this is exactly the generalizations he's talking about(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/20 10:49:57
               Ok--miserable rebounding team - mu7176grad MU - 2/20 11:09:51
                    so you admit the issue is roster construction, not coaching? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/20 12:23:46
                         Biggest issue is the roster for sure - mu7176grad MU - 2/20 12:59:13
                              It’s his second season here - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/20 13:39:14
     Lewis played while East was out (nm) - haeffb MU - 2/20 10:25:58
          Yes, he started both games and played 25 mpg - FIJItiger MU - 2/20 10:30:50
               Lewis was getting minutes because - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/20 10:45:19
                    Think you are focusing on the minutiae here, it was - FIJItiger MU - 2/20 10:49:20
                         Jesus has been dealing with a foot injury - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/20 10:54:21
                              Vanover is wildly unimpressive and one of the strangest - FIJItiger MU - 2/20 11:01:29
                                   He's not P5 under any system(nm) - Sigma MU - 2/20 11:40:30
                                   Going from Cleveland and Shedrick - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/20 11:06:02
                                        I don’t care about people we don’t have - FIJItiger MU - 2/20 11:08:37
                                             There’s no maximizing - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/20 11:12:18
                                                  Well that is actually what a coaches job is(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/20 11:22:19
                                                       It’s takes a baseline level of talent to win - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/20 11:25:28
                                                            How were we leading by double digits in 2nd half on the road - FIJItiger MU - 2/20 11:28:10
                                                                 There's where lack of depth or quality depth begins to show(nm) - Sigma MU - 2/20 11:42:11
                                                                      By forcing us to score 0 fgs for 10 minutes? - FIJItiger MU - 2/20 11:52:03
                                                                           Lack of depth.Players wear down during games, and if they - Sigma MU - 2/20 12:23:42
                                                                                That is a pretty flimsy explanation (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/20 12:27:13
                                                                                     The truth isn't always complicated. In fact it is simple in - Sigma MU - 2/20 14:04:12
                                                                 How does Mizzou go almost 11 minutes - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/20 11:33:16
                                                                      Poor coaching, poor offense design, not valuing possessions(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/20 11:53:06
                                                                           It’s more about poor roster construction - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/20 11:56:04
                                                                                It’s more about lack of overall talent.(nm) - Sigma MU - 2/20 12:24:22
                                   And our largest NIL guy...go figure. - JohnGalt MU - 2/20 11:05:43
                                        He and Mosley really make me want to participate in NIL - FIJItiger MU - 2/20 11:07:29




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