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The founding fathers (or in this case the drafters and

Posted on: January 19, 2024 at 12:12:59 CT
ummmm MU
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ratifiers of the Constitution) didn't include any federal powers regarding border control in the Constitution.

So your appeal to the founding fathers is certainly misplaced here.
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Pickle: Regarding your Question about the Rights of Others - kp83 MU - 1/19 12:09:21
     With rights come responsibilities - tigerinhogtown STL - 1/19 15:43:24
          no matter how many times you say that - pickle MU - 1/19 16:27:25
     the short answer is yes, you do - pickle MU - 1/19 12:37:56
          Pickle obviously in a pickle... - kp83 MU - 1/19 12:39:51
          Pickle obviously in a pickle... - kp83 MU - 1/19 12:39:41
               all you do is dodge - pickle MU - 1/19 12:58:56
               He will only accept one answer, but trying to put your - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/19 12:46:18
     The constitution refers to citizenship - meatiger MU - 1/19 12:19:18
          Who’s denying travel? (nm) - Outsider MU - 1/19 12:23:55
          Meathead answer - kp83 MU - 1/19 12:21:13
               he’s right. read the constitution (nm) - pickle MU - 1/19 12:59:24
               It's one of his shallow talking points - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/19 12:28:30
                    What concept are you talking about? - kp83 MU - 1/19 12:32:21
                         Infringement relative to natural rights - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/19 12:36:24
                              Wow. Coming from you(nm) - meatiger MU - 1/19 12:38:46
                                   You should sit it out - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/19 12:40:27
     Other than not infringing on the rights of others, what - SwampTiger MU - 1/19 12:14:30
          You are trying to put words in my mouth - kp83 MU - 1/19 12:20:01
               lol - pickle MU - 1/19 12:43:15
               Not sovereign enough for you?(nm) - Toger STL - 1/19 12:26:56
               How did I out words in your mouth? Murdering someone - SwampTiger MU - 1/19 12:26:17
                    Do you agree happiness is a fundamental right? - kp83 MU - 1/19 12:35:39
                         why do you not ever answer questions? (nm) - pickle MU - 1/19 12:56:19
                         there is no such right as a right to happiness (nm) - pickle MU - 1/19 12:43:40
                         No. Why do you think I'm a socialist? (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 1/19 12:39:05
                         So taking your money to pay for a citizen’s healthcare - meatiger MU - 1/19 12:37:38
                         Happiness is most certainly not a fundamental right(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/19 12:37:07
                    When specifically does infringement begin? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/19 12:30:10
                         when force is used (nm) - pickle MU - 1/19 12:58:04
                         BOAISY (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 1/19 12:34:12
                              That seems like the bright line he was asking for. (nm) - DC Jayhawk KU - 1/19 12:50:18
                         Don’t mess with people or their stuff. (nm) - TigerMatt MISS - 1/19 12:33:24
                              Lighten up, Francis.(nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/19 14:47:36
                              What does that mean? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/19 12:35:28
                                   How should I know? I’m not your neighbor.(nm) - TigerMatt MISS - 1/19 12:36:32
                                        It was your definition - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/19 12:37:53
                                             You’re asking me to answer for someone else. How can I - TigerMatt MISS - 1/19 12:38:59
                                                  You said nothing about that - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/19 12:41:18
                                                       Yes. It is an extremely simple concept. Do you have - TigerMatt MISS - 1/19 12:45:07
                                                            So you provided a mindlessly broad and grotesquely - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/19 12:47:21
                                                                 The mindless is on your part. If it isn’t your property you - TigerMatt MISS - 1/19 12:50:23
                                                                      So if he likes when I do it have I infringed on - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/19 12:51:57
                                                                           yes, it is an infringement - pickle MU - 1/19 12:57:46
                                                                           Is it consent? This is simple stuff, but you are being - TigerMatt MISS - 1/19 12:53:25
                                                                                Show me where in your response to my clear and - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/19 12:54:43
                                                                                     Easy.. you’re being obtuse. - TigerMatt MISS - 1/19 12:57:46
                                                                                          This was actually your initial response - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/19 12:59:15
                                                                                               So? Your question has been answered. And you’re - TigerMatt MISS - 1/19 13:01:03
                                                                                                    What position? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/19 13:02:03
                                                                                                         You didn’t poke a hole. You asked follow up questions that - TigerMatt MISS - 1/19 13:03:27
               Does anyone have the right to tell a property owner - TigerMatt MISS - 1/19 12:23:02
                    You have the right to tell them - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/19 12:26:00
                         But that’s what the US government does. I can’t - TigerMatt MISS - 1/19 12:31:27
                              You can, but she likely has some steps to go - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/19 12:33:46
                                   So if I don’t do what someone else tells me to do I can’t - TigerMatt MISS - 1/19 12:35:38
                                        When that relationship may impact border security - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/19 12:39:30
                                             Of course you don’t. You are rarely opposed to government - TigerMatt MISS - 1/19 12:41:40
                                             Yes. Having a relative over - meatiger MU - 1/19 12:41:28
                                                  It may not in that case - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/19 12:42:38
                                                       Ah yes, we need a surveillance state - meatiger MU - 1/19 12:44:37
                                                            If that is your standard, please lay out the measures - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/19 12:45:52
                                                                 If people are not infringing upon others - meatiger MU - 1/19 12:47:25
                                                                      Again, please lay out specifically when this - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/19 12:48:38
                                                                           It has been discussed many times(nm) - meatiger MU - 1/19 12:49:11
                                                                                Discussed yes. Specially answered never. - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/19 12:50:03
                                                                                     Lol(nm) - meatiger MU - 1/19 12:50:52
                                                                                          One of your stock responses as you delay and hope - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/19 12:52:44
                                                                                               Not at all - meatiger MU - 1/19 13:10:24
                                                                 The government should have access to every financial - TigerMatt MISS - 1/19 12:46:45
     The founding fathers (or in this case the drafters and - ummmm MU - 1/19 12:12:59
          Ummm.... - kp83 MU - 1/19 12:25:00
               Nothing about your post is accurate. - ummmm MU - 1/19 12:45:07
                    "Express Constitutional Power" - kp83 MU - 1/19 12:55:46
                         immigration is not in the constitution - pickle MU - 1/19 13:02:07
                         You need to read the 10th Amendment to understand what - ummmm MU - 1/19 12:59:23
               national defense is not in the constitution - pickle MU - 1/19 12:38:44
                    Dubious opinions are one thing... - kp83 MU - 1/19 12:44:25
                         i didn’t state an opinion (nm) - pickle MU - 1/19 13:00:49
               There you go introducing brain function as a requirement. - DHighlander NWMSU - 1/19 12:29:17
                    His appeal to the founding fathers and the Constitution is - ummmm MU - 1/19 12:45:58
               If there are no borders, what would they be defending? (nm) - Outsider MU - 1/19 12:26:11
                    You are kidding, right? - kp83 MU - 1/19 12:31:21
                         I’m asking that to the no borders crowd. (nm) - Outsider MU - 1/19 12:45:44
                         Why do you keep misrepresenting as a “utopia”? No - TigerMatt MISS - 1/19 12:34:33
                              Only an idiot who believes Utopia exists here on Earth... - kp83 MU - 1/19 12:38:34
                                   why the straw man? - pickle MU - 1/19 12:40:45
                                   The government ignores most of - meatiger MU - 1/19 12:40:12
                                        Whose rights are being infringed upon with border security?(nm) - Outsider MU - 1/19 12:47:46
                                             My right to hire my Panamanian Sister-In-Law as a live in - TigerMatt MISS - 1/19 13:13:15
                                                  What’s wrong with her, is she a terrorist? (nm) - Outsider MU - 1/19 13:19:35
                                             The person traveling (nm) - meatiger MU - 1/19 12:48:39
                                                  Can people not travel to the US? (nm) - Outsider MU - 1/19 12:49:37
                                                       Depends on the person - meatiger MU - 1/19 12:50:26
                                                            And for good reason, no? But most are, right? (nm) - Outsider MU - 1/19 12:53:53
                                                                 So seeking employment - meatiger MU - 1/19 13:12:22
                                                                      People visit all the time. WTF are you talking about? (nm) - Outsider MU - 1/19 13:13:53
                                                                           And many are denied - meatiger MU - 1/19 13:21:03
                                                                                Then that’s on them. (nm) - Outsider MU - 1/19 13:24:13
               So there is an invading army?(nm) - TigerMatt MISS - 1/19 12:25:33
                    Do you know how many on the terrorist watch list... - kp83 MU - 1/19 12:27:44
                         Ah yes, the in the name of defense reasoning (nm) - meatiger MU - 1/19 12:31:45




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