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Let's discuss pickle. I will start

Posted on: November 20, 2023 at 21:23:54 CT

tman MU

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M.O.B. Votes:

If people respected natural rights would NAP even be necessary?

I say no, as Noone has the right to initiate force against another person.

Do you disagree?

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Flow chart - pickle MU

- 11/20 20:56:58

so if society does something offensive or harmful - JG A - 11/21 01:35:39

lol, good grief (nm) - MIZ45 MU - 11/21 09:57:12

try again (nm) - pickle MU

- 11/21 07:51:02

you got the someones mixed up (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 11/21 07:34:23

You three probably do - JG A - 11/21 12:05:07

who defines offensive?(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 11/20 22:42:11

the individual (nm) - pickle MU

- 11/20 22:52:25

sounds pretty subjective to me and unenforceable(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 11/21 10:56:24

So if 15 upstanding black utes find someone offended them - Tigrrrr! MU

- 11/21 08:08:42

And if he is wrong? Or others then join?(nm) - tman MU - 11/20 22:59:57

you aren’t paying attention - pickle MU

- 11/20 23:26:50

I am and that is why your postion is a problem - tman MU - 11/20 23:35:27

There is no problem except with your inability to follow - TigerMatt STL - 11/21 01:09:43

Pickle and meat(nm) - tman MU - 11/20 22:47:42

THE GRAND CUCUMBER HAS SPOKEN!!!!!! - Tigrrrr! MU

- 11/20 21:58:32

I thought you were against helping others - meatiger MU - 11/20 21:22:58

You are allowed as third party to use force against another - tman MU - 11/20 21:26:18

Big problem with that is who is perceiving harm. pickle - JeffB MU

- 11/20 22:25:27

His position also assumes that the third party - tman MU - 11/20 22:36:01

no (nm) - pickle MU

- 11/20 22:38:58

Yes. Otherwise third party is now an aggressor himself - tman MU - 11/20 22:41:39

no and no - pickle MU

- 11/20 22:53:03

So third party can be wrong without repercusion? - tman MU - 11/20 23:01:38

you will always be ignorant of rights - pickle MU

- 11/20 22:30:36

yet when people see that - meatiger MU - 11/20 21:33:54

No it isn't. All that does is escalate the situation. - tman MU - 11/20 21:38:35

Now heading to straw mans I see - meatiger MU - 11/20 21:40:14

Nope. under NAP you don't have any right to get involved - tman MU - 11/20 21:41:38

Not the NAP I know old man(nm) - tman MU - 11/20 21:03:10

you don’t understand the NAP - pickle MU

- 11/20 21:08:24

Actually I did. Look the original post up - tman MU - 11/20 21:12:25

i read it when you replied to Swamp - pickle MU

- 11/20 21:16:16

Let's discuss pickle. I will start - tman MU - 11/20 21:23:54

You didn't read it. Or you would know I stated - tman MU - 11/20 21:19:02

the NAP certainly applies to 3rd parties(nm) - meatiger MU - 11/20 21:35:08

No it doesn't. First no one has the right to initiate force - tman MU - 11/20 21:36:33

not true - meatiger MU - 11/20 21:37:15

Not under NAP. Under human decency yes(nm) - tman MU - 11/20 21:40:40

he’s not smart (nm) - pickle MU

- 11/20 21:37:55

Link you NAP policy that states third parties - tman MU - 11/20 21:42:54

So you think if a 19 year old is mugging grandma - meatiger MU - 11/20 21:46:13

Straw man, but NAP says it is not anyone else's business - tman MU - 11/20 21:48:29

that’s not a straw man (nm) - pickle MU

- 11/20 21:59:39

Yes it is. Take your loss(nm) - tman MU - 11/20 22:04:45

it isn’t. it’s literally your argument applied - pickle MU

- 11/20 22:11:34

You are a troll, an absolutes, and incapable - tman MU - 11/20 22:13:18

So by that - meatiger MU - 11/20 21:49:14

Are either you or pickle going to link a NAP - tman MU - 11/20 21:54:39

The NAP allows for force to be used against force - meatiger MU - 11/20 21:56:31

It clearly does. I did not add it. Link yours(nm) - tman MU - 11/20 22:05:40

Yes, unless they are directly recipient of force against - tman MU - 11/20 21:50:56

Can you link a version of NAP - meatiger MU - 11/20 21:55:09

Here - tman MU - 11/20 22:03:45

neither of those state the NAP - pickle MU

- 11/20 22:13:24

Why don't you state it(nm) - tman MU - 11/20 22:15:00

use the search feature - pickle MU

- 11/20 22:22:07

Why dint you just restate it. Surely you have it saved - tman MU - 11/20 22:33:51

Under support - meatiger MU - 11/20 22:09:49

So you have pointed out that others feel differently - tman MU - 11/20 22:32:37

Why don't you link it?(nm) - tman MU - 11/20 22:12:05

It was in a link you provided(nm) - meatiger MU - 11/20 22:12:30

Ok. I will look at the footnote, as I said i would do if - tman MU - 11/20 22:14:31

I simply copied something that you posted - meatiger MU - 11/20 22:16:57

Which say some people disagree with the NAP I posted - tman MU - 11/20 22:37:21

it explained the NAP - meatiger MU - 11/20 22:38:22

Post your NAP. Surely it isn't simply that some people - tman MU - 11/20 22:43:11

you did for me - meatiger MU - 11/20 22:44:30

No. But surely you have your NAP starting with it applies - tman MU - 11/20 22:45:42

i have never posted "my NAP" - meatiger MU - 11/20 23:03:38

So you have no NAP that you believe in. You just - tman MU - 11/20 23:10:50

I do not need a written NAP - meatiger MU - 11/20 23:14:55

So you demand mine and have none of your own - tman MU - 11/20 23:24:08

ok(nm) - meatiger MU - 11/20 23:44:04

You can counter(nm) - tman MU - 11/21 01:06:16

he has yet to even post it - pickle MU

- 11/20 22:39:59

I mean in what he posted - meatiger MU - 11/20 22:41:31

It said some people disagree and apply it to third - tman MU - 11/20 22:44:49

Yes, some people disagree on various parts of everything(nm) - meatiger MU - 11/20 23:04:08

So post yours and I will read why your source - tman MU - 11/20 23:12:07

Now link yours(nm) - tman MU - 11/20 22:04:19

Smarter than you.(nm) - tman MU - 11/20 21:39:43

you didn’t state the NAP - pickle MU

- 11/20 21:24:18

Are you going to engage as I most certainly stated - tman MU - 11/20 21:27:34

When you admit you are wrong here let's talk NAP(nm) - tman MU - 11/20 21:14:01