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no it's not. Christ's (and his apostles') teachings are

Posted on: November 1, 2023 at 09:01:37 CT
CulturedDan MU
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1. Love means laying down your life for others (example, Christ)
2. Love your enemies (Example, Christ)
3. Do not repay evil for evil (Example, Christ)
4. Trust in the sovereignty of God (Example, Christ)

You are to be different than the world.
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Hypothetical for anyone who wishes to honestly answer - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/31 19:52:36
     I would send him $14B (nm) - ashtray UF - 11/1 06:45:20
     That is an interesting twist - BigDave MU - 10/31 22:17:36
          and the "saving your own family" twist is what renders it - 90Tiger STL - 11/1 07:23:28
               The only point I was trying to sell you avoided - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/1 07:25:48
                    RE: The only point I was trying to sell you avoided - 90Tiger STL - 11/1 09:34:29
                         Took 10 hours or so - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/1 09:36:01
                              RE: Took 10 hours or so - 90Tiger STL - 11/1 09:36:55
          Thank you - the introduction of a variable really messed - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/1 05:06:05
               Ok Caiaphas (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 11/1 08:11:07
                    You would allow your wife and children to be raped and - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/1 08:20:24
                         so you went from a very good chance - meatiger MU - 11/1 09:25:34
                              That is the definition of possibility meat - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/1 09:33:14
                         Caiaphas killed Jesus to save a nation from Rome. (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 11/1 08:26:15
                              And Jesus posed no physical threat to anyone - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/1 08:31:29
                                   Nor do innocent kids. The Romans are the bad guys. - TigerMatt STL - 11/1 08:33:23
                                        Correct - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/1 08:37:16
                                             No it isn't. Are you going to live a life following Christ - CulturedDan MU - 11/1 08:41:26
                                                  God gave us reason for a reason - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/1 08:52:20
                                                       no it's not. Christ's (and his apostles') teachings are - CulturedDan MU - 11/1 09:01:37
                                                            And authority is given to protect others from evil - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/1 09:05:47
                                                                 you have no scriptural basis for either of those facts - CulturedDan MU - 11/1 09:11:02
                                                                      Personal assaults and physical violence are not one and the - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/1 09:34:45
                                                                           I think using a remote car bomb = any means possible. - CulturedDan MU - 11/1 09:51:19
               That is real life. - meatiger MU - 11/1 07:15:45
                    Good grief you are intent on demonstrating your ignorance - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/1 07:24:15
          He was playing another gotcha game - meatiger MU - 10/31 22:19:16
     No brainer, push the button. There is nothing more.... - JayRoy KC - 10/31 21:54:54
     I'm not pushing the button. - ummmm MU - 10/31 21:36:47
          it’s about a so-called christian trying to justify murder (nm) - pickle MU - 11/1 09:46:49
          yeah but yer wife is ugly so(nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 10/31 22:05:10
          This is the same hypothetical as his conensual sex - meatiger MU - 10/31 21:58:30
          4Tigs should congratulate himself for killing Jesus. - TigerMatt STL - 10/31 21:44:42
               this is a fitting end to the thread, thanks(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 10/31 21:49:49
               yup. Prevented the slaughter of thousands(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 10/31 21:46:50
          very eerie that both he and rask have the same "ends - CulturedDan MU - 10/31 21:37:56
     These hypotheticals aren't good for you. You're on par with - CulturedDan MU - 10/31 21:27:27
          The only threat for the vast majority of abortions - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/31 21:29:54
               well to answer your question, since I have a device that - CulturedDan MU - 10/31 21:33:41
               You are willing to end innocent life for selfish reasons(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 10/31 21:33:10
               No. You are justifying - meatiger MU - 10/31 21:31:55
     What a Shock - WrightWing MU - 10/31 21:21:22
          I get a lot of crap - JG MU - 10/31 22:12:35
               you get a lot of crap because of the content of your posts - 90Tiger STL - 11/1 07:25:38
               b/c you're a narcissist dupe - Wildcat KSU - 11/1 00:02:14
          It is remarkable to see how many people cannot - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/31 21:25:58
               I wouldn't press the button (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 11/1 07:25:57
                    Well, you finally came around to answering - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/1 07:31:14
                         You find it reprehensible and disgusting - meatiger MU - 11/1 09:36:36
                              it's mental gymnastics. I'm a murderer for not murdering - 90Tiger STL - 11/1 09:38:44
                                   Did you see below - meatiger MU - 11/1 09:48:12
                                        That is the nature of a variable - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/1 09:50:06
                         I went to bed, 4Tigs. I don't base my life around TB. I'm - 90Tiger STL - 11/1 09:36:27
                              You went to bed after first dodging the question - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/1 09:47:41
               There was not even clarity in your question - meatiger MU - 10/31 21:28:47
                    It is exactly the same - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/31 21:31:02
                         So if there were kids in the car - meatiger MU - 10/31 21:32:59
     You are a POS. And since you specifically axed for my answer - JG MU - 10/31 21:10:36
          But what if Xenu were in the car instead of kids?(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 10/31 22:11:05
               he would be a ghost - JG MU - 10/31 22:11:34
     Lol(nm) - meatiger MU - 10/31 20:57:00
          You did not answer - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/31 20:57:40
               Your stupidity is duly noted (nm) - meatiger MU - 10/31 20:58:30
                    Obfuscation was predicted - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/31 20:59:11
                         Vapidness - meatiger MU - 10/31 21:02:18
                              At least he has the stones to be forthright and respond - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/31 21:03:26
                                   You showed your stupidity below - meatiger MU - 10/31 21:05:45
                                        Tell me specifically how I changed the scenario meat - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/31 21:06:37
                                             RE: Tell me specifically how I changed the scenario meat - meatiger MU - 10/31 21:09:38
                                                  A false variable? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/31 21:11:48
                                                       I should stop - meatiger MU - 10/31 21:15:05
                                                            A false variable - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/31 21:16:17
     RE: Hypothetical for anyone who wishes to honestly answer - sarasotatiger MU - 10/31 20:40:38
          Of course they would - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/31 20:41:26
     given that those kids will likely grow up to act like their - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/31 20:38:28
     Better analogy. The same man is seen by police running into - TigerMatt STL - 10/31 20:38:13
          An even better analogy is that you ARE the police... - paleojas MU - 11/1 06:35:37
          It was a simple question - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/31 20:38:55
               you think that's a simple question? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 11/1 07:27:00
                    Simple in that it is a yes/no response - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/1 07:33:19
                         "avoidance" is a strawman-laden term(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 11/1 09:47:23
                         that doesn't make it a "simple" question. It makes it - 90Tiger STL - 11/1 09:34:55
               I’m not a murderer and have faith in God. That is - TigerMatt STL - 10/31 20:39:49
                    RE: I’m not a murderer and have faith in God. That is - sarasotatiger MU - 10/31 20:59:09
                         it's a tough situation. But I wouldn't murder kids.(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 10/31 21:34:30
                    RE: I’m not a murderer and have faith in God. That is - sarasotatiger MU - 10/31 20:51:58
                         I wouldn’t kill innocent people to protect innocent people(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 10/31 20:54:26
                              So knowing they would be murdered, and knowing you could - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/31 20:57:16
                                   Nope (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 10/31 22:16:57
                                   Failure to protect is now murder - meatiger MU - 10/31 21:22:14
                    Still did not answer - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/31 20:40:31
                         I did answer. Your reading comprehension sucks which is - TigerMatt STL - 10/31 20:41:17
                              You did not answer - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/31 20:42:20
                                   It is though. You’d be willing to murder innocent people. - TigerMatt STL - 10/31 20:43:12
                                        What if kids were not in the car? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/31 20:44:43
                                             this is stupid - CulturedDan MU - 10/31 21:29:55
                                             That was not your scenario. You’ve moved the goalposts.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 10/31 20:45:29
                                                  II have not - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/31 20:46:32
                                                       Yes. You did move the goalposts. Your scenario included - TigerMatt STL - 10/31 20:47:39
                                                            I said there was a possibility you had to consider - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/31 20:49:26
                                                                 Schrodinger's rapist car(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 10/31 21:30:33
                                                                 “you believe there is a very good chance his two young - TigerMatt STL - 10/31 20:53:32
                                                                      Hatred in the heart compares to murder - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/31 20:56:06
                                                                           You miss the point of Matthew 5. It shows the law is not - TigerMatt STL - 10/31 21:16:55
                                                                                You did not care to save the innocent lives of your - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/31 21:19:14
                                                                                     So the guy breaks into my house, my wife shoots him - TigerMatt STL - 10/31 21:25:44
                                                                                          His wife and children are idiots - meatiger MU - 10/31 21:29:48
                                                                                          If my wife and children survived the threat of this evil - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/31 21:27:58
                                                                                               Because you are a murderer.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 10/31 21:28:59
                                                                           RE: Hatred in the heart compares to murder - meatiger MU - 10/31 21:15:59
                                                                                He allowed his wife and children to be raped and murdered - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/31 21:17:29
                                                                                     He allowed - meatiger MU - 10/31 21:19:37
                                                                                          Yes - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/31 21:21:16
     I'd use a different hypothetical magical device - ChinaTiger KC - 10/31 20:38:01
          Did not answer the question - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/31 20:39:20
               Yeah I did (nm) - ChinaTiger KC - 10/31 22:29:51
     Would Jesus waste them? - Newcatbirdseat MU - 10/31 20:18:02
          Did not answer the question - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/31 20:33:37
     The lengths you'll travel to find an analogy is - 90Tiger STL - 10/31 20:13:38
          he should make trolly track hypotheticals for crisis- - CulturedDan MU - 10/31 21:36:33
          I thought it was from the 4th saw movie(nm) - El-ahrairah UGA - 10/31 20:36:24
          I never said it was the same as anything - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/31 20:33:10
               you're also a liar, 4Tigs, and your God knows it (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 11/1 07:28:32
                    You can attempt to read the heart and mind - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/1 07:35:08
                         I don't think you are, you talk about it way too much, as - 90Tiger STL - 11/1 09:38:02
     Be honest - SwampTiger MU - 10/31 20:12:04
          Did not answer the question - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/31 20:33:52
     Clearly you give a stern natural rights lecture - RHAYWORTH MU - 10/31 19:57:10
          You actually answered - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/31 20:34:31
     If i have a bomb in the car his children are in - El-ahrairah UGA - 10/31 19:56:08




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