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Posted on: October 14, 2023 at 15:52:13 CT

4TigersinMichigan MU

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If the military would have had a chance to take out Hitler and 5 of his top people long before the Jews were massacred, but they would have had to take out a house that may have had his family in it, would they have been right to do so? And would that have been a good use of force?

I believe so. We don't always know. And certainly this power is abused. But I am not an absolutist either way.

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For those of you misrepresenting Christianity I ask this - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 14:53:32

RE: For those of you misrepresenting Christianity I ask this - sarasotatiger MU - 10/16 18:49:30

RE: For those of you misrepresenting Christianity I ask this - sarasotatiger MU - 10/14 17:04:56

I don’t take life instruction from anyone, especially - Outsider MU - 10/14 16:50:59

RE: For those of you misrepresenting Christianity I ask this - raskolnikov MU - 10/14 16:45:22

RE: For those of you misrepresenting Christianity I ask this - sarasotatiger MU - 10/14 17:16:11

that isn't what he said nor implied (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 17:53:56

RE: that isn't what he said nor implied (nm) - sarasotatiger MU - 10/17 20:52:03

When Jesus kicked the vendors' asses out of the church - Toger STL - 10/14 16:16:46

RE: When Jesus kicked the vendors' asses out of the church - sarasotatiger MU - 10/14 17:18:47

Creflo Dollar says send him another thousand. His jets are - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 16:22:43

RE: For those of you misrepresenting Christianity I ask this - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:51:33

Or understand, as the many Christian officers do - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:54:08

We know that's your working interpretation, 4Tigs, thanks an - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:56:41

Or maybe rethink the role of "policing"? - ummmm MU - 10/14 15:38:44

I think that is what it is - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:42:07

You think not dropping thieves and murders - meatiger MU - 10/14 16:13:33

That's a post ergo propter hoc point. (nm) - ummmm MU - 10/14 15:43:41

the police haven’t been hamstrung - pickle MU

- 10/14 15:43:03

Excellent point about cops(nm) - El-ahrairah UGA - 10/14 15:28:51

Perhaps not - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:32:58

you still don't understand what El posted - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:52:11

This, for the record, is "FIJIing" it (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:40:35

That is insightful - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:43:03

Thanks, it's a gift (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:43:26

No, you made a great argument for the defund movement (nm) - CulturedDan MU

- 10/14 15:34:02

Or perhaps it points to a misapplication of Scripture - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:36:20

Police officers are individuals (nm) - CulturedDan MU

- 10/14 17:00:52

I'll simply say that there was no caveats or exceptions - CulturedDan MU

- 10/14 15:18:29

I am not - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:20:18

He has never said such. (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 15:21:59

Jesus offered no exceptions. - CulturedDan MU

- 10/14 15:21:42

So either police work is unGodly - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:24:37

The romans killing Christians were employed by the emperor - CulturedDan MU

- 10/14 15:33:10

Absolutely if you misuse the power and authority - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:37:25

They weren't misusing their power. It was legal according - CulturedDan MU

- 10/14 17:03:36

But Israel is misusing their power slaughtering innocents(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 15:46:24

That is a valid discussion - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:48:19

nuh-uh (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:47:41

If executing your role as a Police Officer contradicts with - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:32:36

That is my point - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:34:59

No and if you think that's what my words imply, I can't - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:39:14

I agree with you - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:41:19

No, you're misinterpreting me and others all through - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:43:07

Read the OP - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:44:09

You're still off (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:44:39

Cops just need to be smarter than you; - glue MU - 10/14 15:37:38

Did he always turn the other cheek or did he ever - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:39:21

He used force but never killed.(nm) - glue MU - 10/14 15:57:54

And that is my point - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 16:00:06

I guess he assumes police must go around killing - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 15:22:43

No, but they use force. They arrest. They detain. - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:25:44

Turning the other cheek, again is about not returning an - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 15:53:15

I agree it can be evil to misuse force. But all along - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:56:15

false. handcuffs, weapons, etc are vital in protecting agai - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 16:19:07

And I have never disputed that - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 16:26:23

The entire time I have spoke of not repaying evil for evil - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 16:04:11

RE: No, but they use force. They arrest. They detain. - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:34:11

For the sake of clarity, I responded above(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:38:02

Your premise is filled with the arrogance I mentioned - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:07:22

How is is arrogant to ask people who told me he these - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:11:28

"for those of you misrepresenting Christianity" - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:12:41

They have been. I have told them repeatedly - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:16:09

and you're Smugly proud of your arrogant condescension - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:19:27

You make a good point - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:22:15

I'm formally agreeing with pickle that you're a full - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:27:15

Oh the humanity - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:31:56

more arrogance, pride, condescension - you sure type - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:33:24

Because I am blessed - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:45:20

RE: Because I am blessed - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:48:17

Ok - does that make you feel better? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:49:22

it doesn't make me feel anything, 4Tigs, and there's - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:50:51

You keep repeating it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:57:14

i shared it twice, the second because you pulled your "i'm j - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 16:01:59

If you were sitting in the office one day and your - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 15:19:05

So change the subject - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:21:33

holy lack of self-awareness from the scenario - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:27:50

I'll remind you that every time you bring up these trolly- - CulturedDan MU

- 10/14 15:24:09

I didn’t change the point. This is exactly what the - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 15:23:30

The rightful use of force by those in authority is a very - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:29:06

Would blowing up a populated house to kill a bad guy be - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 15:48:44

Let me ask with a question - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:52:13

No. Humans are not omnipotent. Killing people for what you - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 16:09:32

Do police justify blowing up a house with innocent people - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 14:54:31

Yes. - Spanky KU - 10/14 15:12:51

those don't make a moral argument for you, but you - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 16:16:29

Read your post again(nm) - Spanky KU - 10/14 16:40:17

No, police shoot people if necessary - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 14:55:52

A follower of Christ would shoot to defend self/others, not - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:10:14

So in way, taking out those who have already - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:12:22

no (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:13:01

We aren’t taking about bringing justice to those who - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 14:59:30

You said Christians are to love their enemy - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:06:16

Then don't be a police officer if you follow Christ - CulturedDan MU

- 10/14 15:20:20

Turn the other cheek is to not repay insult with insult, - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 15:15:15

So up to now it has only been to turn the other cheek - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:18:07

That is an outright lie. - CulturedDan MU

- 10/14 15:22:26

No, this entire time it has been about Israel slaughtering - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 15:20:33

You're the only person here thinking there aren't any - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:20:32

I have never said there aren't other options - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 16:01:21

Hmmm.... (nm) - ummmm MU - 10/14 15:11:41

Christian police officers should, and why can't they? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:11:21

There are other jobs too(nm) - CulturedDan MU

- 10/14 15:20:54

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