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A follower of Christ would shoot to defend self/others, not

Posted on: October 14, 2023 at 15:10:14 CT

90Tiger STL

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retaliate for a crime already committed.

I would think it would be very difficult to assume many roles in our society (especially in government at any level) and faithfully adhere to Christ's teachings.

It is probably hard to be relatively rich and lead a super comfortably modern life and follow his teachings, but it's clear most have found all the ways possible to bend the words to allow it. You're fantastic in this regard.

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For those of you misrepresenting Christianity I ask this - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 14:53:32

RE: For those of you misrepresenting Christianity I ask this - sarasotatiger MU - 10/16 18:49:30

RE: For those of you misrepresenting Christianity I ask this - sarasotatiger MU - 10/14 17:04:56

I don’t take life instruction from anyone, especially - Outsider MU - 10/14 16:50:59

RE: For those of you misrepresenting Christianity I ask this - raskolnikov MU - 10/14 16:45:22

RE: For those of you misrepresenting Christianity I ask this - sarasotatiger MU - 10/14 17:16:11

that isn't what he said nor implied (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 17:53:56

RE: that isn't what he said nor implied (nm) - sarasotatiger MU - 10/17 20:52:03

When Jesus kicked the vendors' asses out of the church - Toger STL - 10/14 16:16:46

RE: When Jesus kicked the vendors' asses out of the church - sarasotatiger MU - 10/14 17:18:47

Creflo Dollar says send him another thousand. His jets are - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 16:22:43

RE: For those of you misrepresenting Christianity I ask this - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:51:33

Or understand, as the many Christian officers do - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:54:08

We know that's your working interpretation, 4Tigs, thanks an - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:56:41

Or maybe rethink the role of "policing"? - ummmm MU - 10/14 15:38:44

I think that is what it is - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:42:07

You think not dropping thieves and murders - meatiger MU - 10/14 16:13:33

That's a post ergo propter hoc point. (nm) - ummmm MU - 10/14 15:43:41

the police haven’t been hamstrung - pickle MU

- 10/14 15:43:03

Excellent point about cops(nm) - El-ahrairah UGA - 10/14 15:28:51

Perhaps not - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:32:58

you still don't understand what El posted - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:52:11

This, for the record, is "FIJIing" it (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:40:35

That is insightful - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:43:03

Thanks, it's a gift (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:43:26

No, you made a great argument for the defund movement (nm) - CulturedDan MU

- 10/14 15:34:02

Or perhaps it points to a misapplication of Scripture - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:36:20

Police officers are individuals (nm) - CulturedDan MU

- 10/14 17:00:52

I'll simply say that there was no caveats or exceptions - CulturedDan MU

- 10/14 15:18:29

I am not - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:20:18

He has never said such. (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 15:21:59

Jesus offered no exceptions. - CulturedDan MU

- 10/14 15:21:42

So either police work is unGodly - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:24:37

The romans killing Christians were employed by the emperor - CulturedDan MU

- 10/14 15:33:10

Absolutely if you misuse the power and authority - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:37:25

They weren't misusing their power. It was legal according - CulturedDan MU

- 10/14 17:03:36

But Israel is misusing their power slaughtering innocents(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 15:46:24

That is a valid discussion - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:48:19

nuh-uh (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:47:41

If executing your role as a Police Officer contradicts with - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:32:36

That is my point - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:34:59

No and if you think that's what my words imply, I can't - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:39:14

I agree with you - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:41:19

No, you're misinterpreting me and others all through - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:43:07

Read the OP - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:44:09

You're still off (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:44:39

Cops just need to be smarter than you; - glue MU - 10/14 15:37:38

Did he always turn the other cheek or did he ever - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:39:21

He used force but never killed.(nm) - glue MU - 10/14 15:57:54

And that is my point - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 16:00:06

I guess he assumes police must go around killing - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 15:22:43

No, but they use force. They arrest. They detain. - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:25:44

Turning the other cheek, again is about not returning an - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 15:53:15

I agree it can be evil to misuse force. But all along - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:56:15

false. handcuffs, weapons, etc are vital in protecting agai - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 16:19:07

And I have never disputed that - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 16:26:23

The entire time I have spoke of not repaying evil for evil - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 16:04:11

RE: No, but they use force. They arrest. They detain. - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:34:11

For the sake of clarity, I responded above(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:38:02

Your premise is filled with the arrogance I mentioned - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:07:22

How is is arrogant to ask people who told me he these - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:11:28

"for those of you misrepresenting Christianity" - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:12:41

They have been. I have told them repeatedly - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:16:09

and you're Smugly proud of your arrogant condescension - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:19:27

You make a good point - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:22:15

I'm formally agreeing with pickle that you're a full - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:27:15

Oh the humanity - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:31:56

more arrogance, pride, condescension - you sure type - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:33:24

Because I am blessed - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:45:20

RE: Because I am blessed - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:48:17

Ok - does that make you feel better? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:49:22

it doesn't make me feel anything, 4Tigs, and there's - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:50:51

You keep repeating it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:57:14

i shared it twice, the second because you pulled your "i'm j - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 16:01:59

If you were sitting in the office one day and your - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 15:19:05

So change the subject - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:21:33

holy lack of self-awareness from the scenario - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:27:50

I'll remind you that every time you bring up these trolly- - CulturedDan MU

- 10/14 15:24:09

I didn’t change the point. This is exactly what the - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 15:23:30

The rightful use of force by those in authority is a very - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:29:06

Would blowing up a populated house to kill a bad guy be - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 15:48:44

Let me ask with a question - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:52:13

No. Humans are not omnipotent. Killing people for what you - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 16:09:32

Do police justify blowing up a house with innocent people - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 14:54:31

Yes. - Spanky KU - 10/14 15:12:51

those don't make a moral argument for you, but you - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 16:16:29

Read your post again(nm) - Spanky KU - 10/14 16:40:17

No, police shoot people if necessary - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 14:55:52

A follower of Christ would shoot to defend self/others, not - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:10:14

So in way, taking out those who have already - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:12:22

no (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:13:01

We aren’t taking about bringing justice to those who - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 14:59:30

You said Christians are to love their enemy - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:06:16

Then don't be a police officer if you follow Christ - CulturedDan MU

- 10/14 15:20:20

Turn the other cheek is to not repay insult with insult, - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 15:15:15

So up to now it has only been to turn the other cheek - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:18:07

That is an outright lie. - CulturedDan MU

- 10/14 15:22:26

No, this entire time it has been about Israel slaughtering - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 15:20:33

You're the only person here thinking there aren't any - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:20:32

I have never said there aren't other options - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 16:01:21

Hmmm.... (nm) - ummmm MU - 10/14 15:11:41

Christian police officers should, and why can't they? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:11:21

There are other jobs too(nm) - CulturedDan MU

- 10/14 15:20:54