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RE: Hiroshima/Nagasaki were needless: Some, but not all of

Posted on: August 4, 2023 at 08:01:06 CT
BH O'bonga MU
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the Jap leadership was ready to surrender. There were many within the General Staff who argued against surrender. They had over 1 million soldiers ready to defend the beaches. Our main target, Kyushu was heavily fortified and defended in depth. The Japs had also horded hundreds of aircraft, ammo and fuel to launch a massive Kamikaze blitz on the US Navy. Those favorable toward surrender generally objected to occupation of the home islands, loss of overseas territories, war crimes trials, oversight of the government and overthrow of the Emperor. They were far from accepting unconditional surrender. In the end, after the two nukes the US issued a proclamation that the Emperor would not be harmed or tried as a war criminal. That condition, plus the Russian invasion of Manchuria allowed the pro-surrender crowd to agree to Allied terms.
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Hiroshima/Nagasaki were needless - El-ahrairah UGA - 8/4 07:39:01
     maybe you can start a japanese reparations movement - Th8tnTiger MU - 8/4 08:05:16
          RE: Japanese reparations movement: They can start by paying - BH O'bonga MU - 8/4 08:37:27
               yeah I mean maybe the nuke wasn't a 100% right call in - Th8tnTiger MU - 8/4 08:42:12
               Germany still pays reparations for WW2 - El-ahrairah UGA - 8/4 08:40:14
                    RE: Germany still pays reparations for WW2: They already - BH O'bonga MU - 8/4 09:22:35
          It's less about making reparations to any of the victims, - ummmm MU - 8/4 08:19:27
          The us has already paid reparations - El-ahrairah UGA - 8/4 08:09:04
               Nukes force cooperation between countries (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 8/4 08:53:46
                    Only when both are nuclear armed - El-ahrairah UGA - 8/4 09:23:40
               I'd say that's probably pretty far down the worry list - Th8tnTiger MU - 8/4 08:12:52
     RE: Hiroshima/Nagasaki were needless: Some, but not all of - BH O'bonga MU - 8/4 08:01:06
     I assume the bombing of Pearl Harbor was essential, right?nm - hokie VT - 8/4 07:54:03
          Only an idiot would assume that(nm) - El-ahrairah UGA - 8/4 07:55:41
               Aren't you one who thinks ALL WARS are needless? That - hokie VT - 8/4 07:58:10
                    No - El-ahrairah UGA - 8/4 08:14:27
                         What was the last major war that was necessary? Have we ever - hokie VT - 8/4 08:16:03
                              The revolutionary war and civil war - El-ahrairah UGA - 8/4 08:21:49
                                   the civil war wasn't necessary (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 8/4 09:58:08
                                        Yes - El-ahrairah UGA - 8/4 10:03:11
                                             shouldn't have attacked ft sumpter (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 8/4 10:19:49
     But to save many US lives, it WAS needed. And it - GA Tiger MU - 8/4 07:47:29
          ^knows more than the military leaders of ww2(nm) - El-ahrairah UGA - 8/4 07:53:27
               You're a big fan of military leaders now. I guess because - hokie VT - 8/4 08:00:56
                    They were much more reliable in 1945 than now - El-ahrairah UGA - 8/4 08:05:54
          So much for actually reading the article, I guess. (nm) - Newcatbirdseat MU - 8/4 07:49:53




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