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RE: He wasn’t a “Russian operative” and polling data isn't

Posted on: September 14, 2022 at 10:46:58 CT
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Through numerous regular email exchanges, Kilimnik conferred with Manafort after Manafort became Donald Trump's campaign manager in April 2016 and requested that Manafort give "private briefings" about the Trump campaign to Oleg Deripaska, a Russian billionaire and close ally to Vladimir Putin.[20][36][37] On 2 August 2016, Kilimnik met with Manafort and Rick Gates at the Grand Havana Room at 666 Fifth Avenue.[38] The encounter which, according to prosecutor Andrew Weissmann goes “very much to the heart of what the special counsel’s office is investigating,” included a handoff by Manafort of internal polling data from Trump's presidential campaign to Kilimnik.[39] Gates later testified the three left the premises separately, each using different exits.[39]

According to Mueller's court filings, Kilimnik was still working with Russian intelligence when, during September and October 2016, he was known to be communicating with the Trump campaign. Both Rick Gates and Paul Manafort were in contact with him at the time.[15] Manafort has said that he and Kilimnik discussed the Democratic National Committee cyber attack and release of emails, now known to be undertaken by Russian hacker groups known as Cozy Bear and Fancy Bear.[30]

Kilimnik and Manafort had been involved in the Pericles Fund together, an unsuccessful business venture financed by Oleg Deripaska.[13] In July 2016, Manafort told Kilimnik to offer Deripaska private information in exchange for resolving multimillion-dollar disputes about the venture.[13]

In a 2018 classified State Department assessment, Ukraine's former Prosecutor General Yuri Lutsenko allowed Kilimnik to escape from Ukraine to Russia after the US federal grand jury charged Kilimnik with obstruction of justice.[21] The New York Times reported on 31 August 2018 that an unnamed Russian political operative and a Ukrainian businessman had illegally purchased four tickets to the inauguration of Donald Trump on behalf of Kilimnik. The tickets, valued at $50,000, were purchased with funds that had flowed through a Cypriot bank account. The transaction was facilitated by Sam Patten, an American lobbyist who had related work with Paul Manafort and pleaded guilty to failing to register as a foreign agent.[40] Kilimnik attended Trump's inauguration.[41]

In January 2019, Manafort's lawyers submitted a filing to the court, in response to the Special Counsel's accusation that he had lied to investigators while supposedly co-operating with them. Through an error in redacting, the document accidentally revealed that while he was campaign chairman, Manafort met with Kilimnik, gave him polling data related to the 2016 campaign,[21] and discussed a Ukrainian peace plan with him. Most of the polling data was reportedly public, although some was private Trump campaign polling data.[a] Manafort asked Kilimnik to pass the data to Ukrainians Serhiy Lyovochkin and Rinat Akhmetov.[42][43] Manafort also asked Kilimnik to pass polling data to Oleg Deripaska who is close to Putin.[21]

Kilimnik, Andrii Derkach, who is a member of the Russian intelligence community and very close to Rudy Giuliani, and Andrii Telizhenko, who is part of "Derkach's inner circle"[b] and a close associate of Rudy Giuliani, supported Michael Caputo, who was producer, and Sergey Petrushin, who is a Russian co-producer that lives in Miami and a close associate of Caputo for over 25 years, making the documentary film The Ukraine Hoax: Impeachment, Biden Cash, and Mass Murder with guest host Michael Caputo which aired on the One America News Network (OANN) on 21 January 2020 only two weeks before the Senate's acquittal of Donald Trump after his first impeachment trial.[46][47][48][49][50][51][52]

In its August 2020 final report on the 2016 election interference, the bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee characterized Kilimnik as a "Russian intelligence officer" who worked with Manafort while he was Trump campaign manager to deflect suspicions of interference away from Russia and onto Ukraine.[3] The report mentions Kilimnik about 800 times,[53] although most of the details about his intelligence connections were redacted. However, the sharing of intelligence with Kilimnik by Manafort and others "represented a grave counterintelligence threat".[3] The committee acquired sufficient evidence to assert that Kilminik may have been involved directly in the plot, not only to hack the Democrats computers, but to pass on the information to WikiLeaks.[54][55]

This effort became a major element of conspiracy theories related to the Trump–Ukraine scandal promoted by President Trump and his associates.[5
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Bull Durham - Toger STL - 9/14 09:02:27
     this line, "but who nonetheless found multiple potential - blake1771 MU - 9/14 09:53:10
     wait so Russia Russia Russia was true? lol(nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 9/14 09:11:54
          The way things are looking don and Vlad could potentially - Toger STL - 9/14 09:15:07
               That's a good one (nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 9/14 09:23:31
                    Which one do you think would be the cell pussy?(nm) - Toger STL - 9/14 09:35:35
                         Vladdy is a tiny man and ill - JimD MU - 9/14 17:43:21
                         Vlad would drill yer mom's azz. Only skank shlt came out of - TigerFan92 STL - 9/14 09:40:39
                              Wow, such camouflage and chew spittle from... - Gyro STL - 9/14 09:46:19
                                   tell us about your watches again(nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 9/14 09:51:49
     Does this mean Barr and Durham - Sal CMSU - 9/14 09:09:49
          It means there's no deep state - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 09:21:01
               lol at you (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 9/14 12:43:45
               So, you genuinely have no clue what happened here - AWOLTiger KC - 9/14 09:59:44
               you’re an idiot - pickle MU - 9/14 09:50:46
               gaslight much? - RHAYWORTH MU - 9/14 09:38:55
               There's no deep state: My goodness, you're stupid. The - BH O'bonga MU - 9/14 09:38:13
                    No one cares what a Russian propagandist has to say, fascist - TexJohnson MU - 9/14 09:48:03
                         Get a new line, it’s not cute anymore. (nm) - Outsider MU - 9/14 10:36:27
                         This coming from the same group of people who - Sal CMSU - 9/14 09:50:25
                              His campaign manager secretly gave their polling data - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 10:32:24
                                   He wasn’t a “Russian operative” and polling data isn't - Outsider MU - 9/14 10:38:16
                                        RE: He wasn’t a “Russian operative” and polling data isn't - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 10:46:58
                                             RE: He wasn’t a “Russian operative” and polling data isn't - Outsider MU - 9/14 10:53:33
                                                  RE: He wasn’t a “Russian operative” and polling data isn't - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 10:54:37
                                        RE: He wasn’t a “Russian operative” and polling data isn't - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 10:44:32
                                   worked together to do ... what? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 9/14 10:34:01
                                        He has no idea because there is no evidence or even - Outsider MU - 9/14 10:39:23
                                        You're such a tool - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 10:35:13
                                             An answer when you have no answer. (nm) - Outsider MU - 9/14 10:40:01
                                                  RE: An answer when you have no answer. (nm) - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 10:41:20
                                             Must be too difficult for you to answer (nm) - Sal CMSU - 9/14 10:35:38
                                                  Evidently the campaign - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 10:40:48
                                                       Polling data? The same data any country can get… - Outsider MU - 9/14 10:48:26
                                                            GOP senate thought it was bad - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 10:53:56
                                                                 And yet - Sal CMSU - 9/14 11:04:15
                                                                      Kliminik won't answer questions for some reason - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 11:05:34
                                                                           So you admit the committee couldn't confirm - Sal CMSU - 9/14 12:30:04
                                                                                RE: So you admit the committee couldn't confirm - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 13:26:30
                                                            uhhh - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 10:51:02
                                                                 Was Manafort charged with any election related crimes? - Outsider MU - 9/14 10:54:39
                                                                      Conspiracy to defraud the US - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 11:02:42
                                                                           RE: Conspiracy to defraud the US - Outsider MU - 9/14 11:09:05
                                                                                Wrong trial. Trump : only the best people. - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 11:12:08
                                                                                     RE: Wrong trial. Trump : only the best people. - Outsider MU - 9/14 11:16:01
                                                                                          Conspiracy to defraud was related to his - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 11:17:52
                                                                                               But no election crimes to speak of. Got it. (nm) - Outsider MU - 9/14 11:21:57
                              I'm not "the same group of people" another wrong assumption - TexJohnson MU - 9/14 09:59:35
                                   So you weren't a Russian collusion guy? - Sal CMSU - 9/14 10:12:56
                                   a plot to do what?(nm) - Th8tnTiger MU - 9/14 10:03:50
                                        Ask Sal, that was copy and pasted from his post right above - TexJohnson MU - 9/14 10:11:26
                                             my apologies, I'm used to reading posts by adults - Th8tnTiger MU - 9/14 10:14:37
                                                  Sal is childish - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 10:30:11
               Q the - Rabbit Test MU - 9/14 09:35:38
               Of course you'd think that - Sal CMSU - 9/14 09:21:42
                    Poor sal - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 09:25:38
                         the idea of a "deep state" is simply that there are - Th8tnTiger MU - 9/14 09:32:13
                              Durham didn't find it - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 09:33:24
                                   uhh his assignment wasn't to find it - Th8tnTiger MU - 9/14 09:34:36
                                        Actually it was - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 09:35:29
                                             he was appointed to investigate the origins of - Th8tnTiger MU - 9/14 09:40:03
                                                  RE: he was appointed to investigate the origins of - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 09:40:49
                                                       I'm not paying to read that(nm) - Th8tnTiger MU - 9/14 09:42:05
                                                            sweet - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 10:31:05
                                                                 copy and paste it for us (nm) - Sal CMSU - 9/14 10:34:21
                                                                      Nah - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 10:35:34
                                             no it wasn't (nm) - Sal CMSU - 9/14 09:35:50
                                        the proctor is stumbling like Harris here (nm) - Sal CMSU - 9/14 09:35:01
                                   Didn't find what? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 9/14 09:34:26
                                        Deep State - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 09:35:05
                                             That wasn't his job - Sal CMSU - 9/14 09:35:41
                                                  So dumb - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 09:37:10
                                                       his job was to investigate crossfire hurricane - Th8tnTiger MU - 9/14 09:41:25
                                                            and the FBI for hiring a CI - Sal CMSU - 9/14 09:42:11
                                                                 which should seem a bit troubling - Th8tnTiger MU - 9/14 09:43:31
                                                                      of course not b/c it's in relation to Trump (nm) - Sal CMSU - 9/14 09:43:51
                                                       Did Barr or Durham ever state - Sal CMSU - 9/14 09:38:05
                                                            RE: Did Barr or Durham ever state - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 09:40:09
                                                                 That doesn't sound like a quote from Durham or Barr - Sal CMSU - 9/14 09:40:51
                                                                      RE: That doesn't sound like a quote from Durham or Barr - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 09:42:20
                                                                           That doesn't say Barr said Durham's job - Sal CMSU - 9/14 09:43:05
                         Isn't Danchenko currently at trial? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 9/14 09:28:21
                              For what? - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 09:28:52
                                   You said "the only trial" - Sal CMSU - 9/14 09:29:28
                                        He hasn't taken it to court - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 09:30:22
                                             So what will you say if that - Sal CMSU - 9/14 09:32:02
                                                  What is he charged with again? - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 09:32:45
                                                       lying to the FBI about the Steele dossier, who then - Th8tnTiger MU - 9/14 09:37:11
                                                       That doesn't matter - Sal CMSU - 9/14 09:33:16
                                                            Such a coward you are - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 09:34:19
                                                                 You need to make up your mind (nm) - Sal CMSU - 9/14 09:34:46
                                                                      Why? I'm not like you - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 09:36:05
                                                                           You clearly don't even know what the deep state is (nm) - Sal CMSU - 9/14 09:37:08
                                                                                There is no deep state - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 09:38:14
                                                                                     what do you think the definition of deep state is?(nm) - Th8tnTiger MU - 9/14 09:42:53
                                                                                          RE: what do you think the definition of deep state is?(nm) - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 09:45:03
                                                                                               that's a fair definition. and you don't think anything like - Th8tnTiger MU - 9/14 09:50:45
                                                                                                    Apparently not - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 09:52:00
                                                                                                         why would the FBI hire someone who lied to them - Th8tnTiger MU - 9/14 09:53:14
                                                                                                              Which liar? - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 09:53:56
                                                                                                                   uhh the guy that goes on trial next month - Th8tnTiger MU - 9/14 09:56:23
                                                                                                                        He may be convicted - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 10:01:33
                                                                                                                             if he didn't lie he did a lot of "misremembering" that the - Th8tnTiger MU - 9/14 10:05:16
                                                                                                                             Do you think when Durham investigated - Sal CMSU - 9/14 10:03:41
                                                                                                                                  RE: Do you think when Durham investigated - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 10:29:35
                                                                                                                                       Answer the question (nm) - Sal CMSU - 9/14 10:34:41
                                                                                                                                            I did - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 10:36:01
                                                                                                                                                 So Durham wasn't tasked with investigating - Sal CMSU - 9/14 10:37:09
                                                                                                                                                      RE: So Durham wasn't tasked with investigating - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 10:39:29
                                                                                                                                                           lol you're the one claiming Durham was - Sal CMSU - 9/14 10:42:03
                                                                                                                                                                yes I was making fun of you - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 10:43:27
                                                                                                                                                                     I never claimed Durham was investigating the deep state - Sal CMSU - 9/14 10:44:00
                                                                                                                                                                          RE: I never claimed Durham was investigating the deep state - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 10:47:53
                                                                                                                                                                               lol OK rask (nm) - Sal CMSU - 9/14 10:48:59
                                                                                                                                                                                    You were wrong - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 10:52:52
                                                                                                                                                                                         Wrong about what? - Sal CMSU - 9/14 10:56:41
                                                                                                                                                                                              There is no deep state - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 11:03:54
                                                                                                                                                                                                   No, I don't agree - Sal CMSU - 9/14 11:04:50
                                                                                                                                                                                                        There is no deep state - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 11:06:18
                                                                                                         Durham wasn't tasked with investigating the deep state - Sal CMSU - 9/14 09:52:41
                                                                                                    Not as long as his team is in power - Sal CMSU - 9/14 09:51:59
                                                                                               which website did you pull that off of? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 9/14 09:46:35
                                                                                                    google.com - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 09:47:45
                                                                                                         So you're too lazy to define it yourself - Sal CMSU - 9/14 09:48:36
                                                                                                              Why redefine what - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 09:50:01
                                                                                                                   LOL "already there and factual" - Sal CMSU - 9/14 09:51:11
                                                                                                                        Are the dictionaries in on the conspiracy now? - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 09:53:19
          I'll be curious to see if any of his report sees the light - Th8tnTiger MU - 9/14 09:13:53
               Correct ... Andy McCarthy has been saying this for - Sal CMSU - 9/14 09:16:31
                    Giualiani's boy? - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 09:26:46
                         lol what? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 9/14 09:27:09
                              Mccarthy is giuliani's stooge. Wake up and know your gods - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 09:28:21
                                   Yeah, no - Sal CMSU - 9/14 09:29:14
                                        RE: Yeah, no - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 09:32:31
                                             You should do better research - Sal CMSU - 9/14 09:34:10
                                                  I don't listen to - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 09:41:28
                                                       At least you admit you don't know what you're talking - Sal CMSU - 9/14 09:42:37
                                                            There's no deep state - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/14 09:45:50
          Only if you use your imagination.(nm) - Toger STL - 9/14 09:12:41




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