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Posted on: August 4, 2022 at 13:22:25 CT
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this context.

I happen to 100% agree that's the basis for law (should be); however, I'm not arguing what the law should be.

I'm stating you are personally making the assumption - and putting the burden on evidence to change your mind.

Why disagree with that when it's a fundamental in your (our) belief?
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Free Brittney Griner. - ummmm MU - 8/4 12:49:05
     Jan 6.(nm) - TrumpToRushmore MU - 8/4 14:09:25
          Yes, also wrongfully detained people. (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/4 14:11:15
     Poot will want a lot for her release. And - GA Tiger MU - 8/4 13:45:15
     Question is...if she spends even 5 years is her - Logan BAMA - 8/4 13:31:01
          I don't really care about her career. I care about the - ummmm MU - 8/4 13:33:30
               Non-crime here does not = non-crime there. (nm) - Logan BAMA - 8/4 13:35:27
                    wrong - pickle MU - 8/4 13:41:27
                         You parrot the CCP one day, sovereign citizens the next (nm) - ChinaTiger KC - 8/4 13:45:51
                              i couldn’t care less what you think about anything - pickle MU - 8/4 13:47:03
                    No, victimless possession of a substance is a non-crime - ummmm MU - 8/4 13:38:40
                         Is that a global rule or just an opinion? (nm) - Logan BAMA - 8/4 13:40:20
                              it’s natural law (nm) - pickle MU - 8/4 13:42:14
                    false - ashtray UF - 8/4 13:37:42
                         Great for US...other countries have different standards. (nm) - Logan BAMA - 8/4 13:39:31
                              we aren’t talking legality or that paradigm - pickle MU - 8/4 13:41:55
                              That's an expression of natural rights -- rights inherent to - ummmm MU - 8/4 13:40:11
                                   Do other countries follow Natural Rights? I'll defer - Logan BAMA - 8/4 13:42:17
                                        no. All gvmt is an infringement on rights - pickle MU - 8/4 13:46:10
                                        No governments, to my knowledge, follow Natural Rights(nm) - meatiger MU - 8/4 13:43:59
          why do you cringe when someone says "her wife?"(nm) - meatiger MU - 8/4 13:32:29
               I'm against homosexuality. (nm) - Logan BAMA - 8/4 13:33:29
                    how is one “against” homosexuality? - pickle MU - 8/4 13:35:10
                         Clarify: I'm against the sin of homosexual behavior. (nm) - Logan BAMA - 8/4 13:36:37
                              not a sin you - diaclone ISU - 8/4 14:21:16
                                   Is a sin. - Logan BAMA - 8/4 14:46:38
                              yet you cringe when you hear "her wife"(nm) - meatiger MU - 8/4 13:41:08
                                   Yes. (nm) - Logan BAMA - 8/4 13:47:27
                                        When a friend introduces you to his wife - meatiger MU - 8/4 13:52:53
                              well, first off there is no such thing as sin - pickle MU - 8/4 13:40:47
                                   We're not animals...and I believe there is sin, evil, - Logan BAMA - 8/4 13:46:14
                                        we’re mammals. We are warm blooded, have hair - pickle MU - 8/4 13:54:06
                                             We're just as God made us...animals are as God made them. - Logan BAMA - 8/4 14:13:48
                                                  god made humans homosexual (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/4 14:29:31
                                                       Don't agree. (nm) - Logan BAMA - 8/4 14:46:07
                                                            lol, of course you don't - but he does make us hetero - 90Tiger STL - 8/4 15:47:35
                                                            "We're just as God made us"(nm) - meatiger MU - 8/4 15:12:48
                                                                 Your point? (nm) - Logan BAMA - 8/4 15:54:32
                                                                      RE: Your point? (nm) - pickle MU - 8/4 17:15:46
                                                  non-thinker - pickle MU - 8/4 14:22:05
                                                       Is that your new catch phrase. - Logan BAMA - 8/4 14:47:43
                                                            it describes you - pickle MU - 8/4 14:56:57
                                                                 Because it's common sense. (nm) - Logan BAMA - 8/4 15:53:34
                                                                      first, common sense doesn’t mean what you think it does - pickle MU - 8/4 17:15:21
                                                                           I just don't bloviate like you do. (nm) - Logan BAMA - 8/4 17:21:24
                                        yikes, you're frightening (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/4 13:49:05
                                             Didn't mean to scare you. (nm) - Logan BAMA - 8/4 13:50:39
                                                  I think you're proud of yourself, which is the frightening - 90Tiger STL - 8/4 13:56:21
                                                       i think he just doesn’t give a **** - pickle MU - 8/4 13:57:30
                                                            yep. smug and content. familiar theme here (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/4 13:58:52
                                                                 I just believe what I believe. No ill will toward Britney. (nm) - Logan BAMA - 8/4 14:12:07
                                                                      no, just that she's "evil" and you're "against" her born - 90Tiger STL - 8/4 14:27:23
                                                                           Sin is evil. Against sin. (nm) - Logan BAMA - 8/4 14:45:41
                                                                                oh goody for you (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/4 16:16:01
                         I cringe at Logan breathing(nm) - meatiger MU - 8/4 13:35:29
                              Why? I have nothing against you or her. (nm) - Logan BAMA - 8/4 13:37:18
                    And it actually makes you cringe? - meatiger MU - 8/4 13:34:32
                         The image of queers going at it is nauseating. (nm) - Logan BAMA - 8/4 13:38:21
                              who doesn’t like lesbian porn? (nm) - pickle MU - 8/4 13:42:46
                                   It's abhorrent. (nm) - Logan BAMA - 8/4 14:48:28
                                        then you’re watching the wrong lesbian porn (nm) - pickle MU - 8/4 15:14:18
                                             I don't watch porn. That's probablywhy we see things - Logan BAMA - 8/4 15:56:30
                                   gay guys - meatiger MU - 8/4 13:43:20
                                        Why "opps Logan"? (nm) - Logan BAMA - 8/4 13:50:09
                              So when you see a man and his wife - meatiger MU - 8/4 13:40:12
                    does your boyfriend know? (nm) - ashtray UF - 8/4 13:34:19
     I had a western buddy get popped for drugs in China - ChinaTiger KC - 8/4 13:30:06
     She is an ungrateful, careless fool - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 8/4 13:29:23
          why wouldn't it be happening with a brain alive live corpse? - ashtray UF - 8/4 13:30:50
          you have no idea if these are false charges - pickle MU - 8/4 13:30:28
               Republicans are pro-Russia now - ashtray UF - 8/4 13:31:38
                    Her marital status is also an issue with cons (nm) - mizzoumurfkc KC - 8/4 13:47:00
     RE: Free Brittney Griner. - MUDude MU - 8/4 13:24:57
          RE: Free Brittney Griner. - ummmm MU - 8/4 13:34:24
     Here's the thing, WHY THE HELL DID SHE HAVE DRUGS? - MU-TULSA MU - 8/4 13:12:25
          Okay, she's dumb. Now, do you agree that there is a grave - ummmm MU - 8/4 13:35:24
          have you considered that maybe she didn’t have any oils - pickle MU - 8/4 13:22:56
          RE: Here's the thing, WHY THE HELL DID SHE HAVE DRUGS? - BH O'bonga MU - 8/4 13:21:53
     if this was an average person would there even be a - fatrat MU - 8/4 13:11:57
     RE: Free Brittney Griner. - MOCO SON MU - 8/4 13:07:20
          RE: Free Brittney Griner. - BH O'bonga MU - 8/4 13:19:43
     First; unless she is completely innocent and brought no - 90Tiger STL - 8/4 13:01:29
     Griner: Smuggling illegal narcotics into a foreign country - BH O'bonga MU - 8/4 12:53:28
          stop being stupid (nm) - pickle MU - 8/4 13:00:29
          Lolol dude she's just a hostage that the ruskies are using - Say_What MU - 8/4 12:59:36
          of course you believe anything the Russians say - ashtray UF - 8/4 12:56:36
               Didn't she admit it?...nm - bcoop199 KC - 8/4 13:00:29
                    Didn't she admit it?: Pay no attention to those idiots. - BH O'bonga MU - 8/4 13:17:22
                    RE: Didn't she admit it?...nm - dangertim MU - 8/4 13:06:40
                    maybe it was forced (nm) - ashtray UF - 8/4 13:01:09
                         maybe it wasn't (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/4 13:02:39
                    how do you know she wasn’t coerced? - pickle MU - 8/4 13:01:06
                         correct, but nobody here knows if she was coerced. we - 90Tiger STL - 8/4 13:04:04
                              the point is people don’t know - pickle MU - 8/4 13:08:17
                              except in your post above you asked - ashtray UF - 8/4 13:05:14
                                   neither of us knows if she brought anything in. Do you - 90Tiger STL - 8/4 13:06:10
                                        why assume she did? because gvmt says so? (nm) - pickle MU - 8/4 13:10:58
                                             i'm not (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/4 13:14:40
                                                  🤦🏻‍♂️ - pickle MU - 8/4 13:16:25
                                                       I never stated I assume she was holding, pickle. You're - 90Tiger STL - 8/4 13:19:35
                                                            i know that, dummy - pickle MU - 8/4 13:21:33
                                                                 Hey fvcktard, if you PRESUME (assume) Innocence until - 90Tiger STL - 8/4 13:23:45
                                                                      hey, dumb**** - pickle MU - 8/4 13:31:06
                                                                           lmfao, you're so arrogant and stubborn that you can't - 90Tiger STL - 8/4 13:38:41
                                                            "presumption of innocence" means - ashtray UF - 8/4 13:20:51
                                                                 which is a distinction without difference to assumption in - 90Tiger STL - 8/4 13:22:25
                                                                      I get what you're trying to say - ashtray UF - 8/4 13:26:25
                                                                           yeah, I know that, which is your assumption and I don't - 90Tiger STL - 8/4 13:28:17
                                        I'm not assuming anything - ashtray UF - 8/4 13:07:15
                                             how would you see evidence at all? you're just making - 90Tiger STL - 8/4 13:08:13
                                                  what assumption am I making? (nm) - ashtray UF - 8/4 13:12:45
                                                       you stated you don't believe the gvmt in Russia, correct? - 90Tiger STL - 8/4 13:15:23
                                                            I don't believe any government - ashtray UF - 8/4 13:17:35
                                                                 well - 90Tiger STL - 8/4 13:18:49
                                                                      I'm not using them interchangeably (nm) - ashtray UF - 8/4 13:20:03
                                                                           so what's the evidence supporting your presumption? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/4 13:21:02
                                                                                the lack of evidence there was wrongdoing (nm) - ashtray UF - 8/4 13:21:21
                                                                                     right, so you are morally correct in presuming/assuming - 90Tiger STL - 8/4 13:23:00
                                                  he isn’t making an assumption at all (nm) - pickle MU - 8/4 13:11:32
                                                       RE: he isn’t making an assumption at all (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/4 13:16:22
                                                            so are we (nm) - pickle MU - 8/4 13:16:42
                                                                 ashtray stated he's presuming innocence - 90Tiger STL - 8/4 13:20:41
                         Possible, maybe people will see this case and realize that - bcoop199 KC - 8/4 13:03:27
                              it's just as bad (nm) - ashtray UF - 8/4 13:05:35
          Anyone protesting in china - meatiger MU - 8/4 12:55:15
          Less than 1 gram of cannabis oil. 9 years in prison. - ummmm MU - 8/4 12:54:16




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