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Libertarians Are Not Our Friends

Posted on: July 25, 2022 at 08:02:40 CT
BH O'bonga MU
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"Let me state the argument against libertarianism, as clearly as possible. There are seven points that need to be made, pondered, and then remade.

Individualism, an ism, is a harsh and insane ideology and not the same thing as viewing individuals as human persons, created by God and made in His image. In truth there is much more to reality—which is multidimensional, variegated, and complex. Families, marriages, communities, schools, churches, and civil associations are, in fact, the bulwark of life—not isolated, atomistic individuals untethered to anything.

The market works and also at times, fails. We are citizens in nation states, not global individuals adrift and rootless. We are certainly more than contracting consumers.

Opposed to Natural Law as upheld and described in our Declaration of Independence, libertarians deny there are any self-evident truths, a Creator, or even inalienable rights.

The “harm principle” of John Stuart Mill upon which libertarianism rests, is a moral claim that demands a moral basis both for human flourishing and ethics, neither of which libertarianism provides.

“Conscription is slavery and taxation robbery,” according to Murray Rothbard, the ultimate and exemplar libertarian. Is that extreme? No Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, or Coast Guard? We would be, for all practical purposes, defenseless. And a principle of no taxes is not the same as limited government.

For a libertarian, virtue does not exist and cannot be coerced. Freedom does work, as Hayek thought, but surely [freedom] cannot be evaluated apart from the ends that it serves.

Facilitating the debauchery of society by eliminating any sense or definition of good character is, by definition, debased, and results in a form of narcissistic nihilism. There is nothing above the self. Think of Burning Man writ large and you can picture the result of libertarian rule or lack thereof. Would you want that?"

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Libertarians Are Not Our Friends - BH O'bonga MU - 7/25 08:02:40
     "..made in his image". Does that mean - GA Tiger MU - 7/25 09:37:04
     outright lie: - dangertim MU - 7/25 09:14:10
     The author is right about one thing: - ummmm MU - 7/25 08:48:08
     I don't think there more than one single accurate - MizzouAstro MU - 7/25 08:21:26
     that’s quite a load of ignorance there - pickle MU - 7/25 08:14:21
          Let me get this straight. Malloch is an accomplished author - BH O'bonga MU - 7/25 08:22:13
               appeal to authority. nothing he said is correct (nm) - pickle MU - 7/25 08:26:44
                    Again, who are you to question him? - BH O'bonga MU - 7/25 08:44:58
                         appeal to authority. - pickle MU - 7/25 08:50:03
                              You are a libertarian fanboy and nothing more. That's why - BH O'bonga MU - 7/25 08:53:27
                                   are you drunk???? (nm) - pickle MU - 7/25 08:54:48
                                        he's showing why he seldom engages in discussion (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/25 09:02:03
                                             seldom is being generous (nm) - pickle MU - 7/25 09:13:14
                                                  agreed, as you know - SwampTiger MU - 7/25 09:19:11
                         who are you to question pickle who is - SwampTiger MU - 7/25 08:49:15
                              RE: who are you to question pickle who is - BH O'bonga MU - 7/25 08:53:47
                                   what are you confused about? (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/25 08:57:44
               so you think he was lying and not ignorant? (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/25 08:25:00
          can't research it - SwampTiger MU - 7/25 08:16:59
               wonder what his TB handle is (nm) - pickle MU - 7/25 08:19:15
                    none**** - SwampTiger MU - 7/25 08:21:57
          If you share some thoughts of libertarianism - meatiger MU - 7/25 08:22:48
          you don’t share one single bit of libertarian thought - pickle MU - 7/25 08:15:58
          if by extreme you mean completely wrong (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/25 08:14:03




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