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no, it doesn't say "this applies to all federal employees"
Posted on: January 28, 2022 at 14:59:35 CT
TigerJackSwartz
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except the 1-5 you mentioned.
It is nuanced, but it says "it applies to these" (and then says to competitive employees in the judiciary).
Then it says "it doesn't apply to these."
But it never says "it applies to all, except for these.
It is pretty clear, if you research it, that Title VII doesn't apply to judges:
https://www.google.com/search?q=does+title+vii+apply+to+judges+&rlz=1C1GCEB_enUS972US972&sxsrf=APq-WBte-iyhOQBGqpV0_5g9dK4n907vbQ%3A1643403333335&ei=RVj0YdyKFPeeptQPn5GZgA0&ved=0ahUKEwicwZ-_qtX1AhV3j4kEHZ9IBtAQ4dUDCA4&uact=5&oq=does+title+vii+apply+to+judges+&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBAgjECc6BwgAEEcQsANKBAhBGABKBAhGGABQ1gdY1gdgzg5oAXACeACAAVyIAVySAQExmAEAoAEByAECwAEB&sclient=gws-wiz
Edited by TigerJackSwartz at 15:00:32 on 01/28/22
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4smugs gets asked what law was violated
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meatiger
MU
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1/28 13:58:55
sounds like something JG would type. ironic, isn't it? (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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1/28 16:35:44
Oh look. Dummy swooped in before the early bird dinner(nm)
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meatiger
MU
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1/28 16:57:34
It’s in the Declaration of Independence(nm)
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El-ahrairah
BAMA
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1/28 14:17:10
Title VII of the Civil Rights Act
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Spanky
KU
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1/28 14:09:48
Thanks for at least providing some actual information(nm)
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meatiger
MU
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1/28 15:07:10
So you believe even though the Constitution sets forth
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TigerJackSwartz
MU
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1/28 14:29:35
So you're saying Reagan promising to appoint a woman
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SparkyStalcup
MU
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1/28 19:21:10
No
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Spanky
KU
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1/28 20:09:10
Yeah I don't think that Title VII applies
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Ragnar Danneskjold
MU
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1/28 14:37:56
anyone who was passed over based on their race
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Spanky
KU
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1/28 14:51:16
a supreme court justice is not "hired" lol
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Ragnar Danneskjold
MU
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1/28 14:59:42
Is an Ambassador hired?
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Spanky
KU
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1/28 15:07:42
no an ambassador is appointed(nm)
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Ragnar Danneskjold
MU
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1/28 15:10:27
and placed on the federal payroll
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Spanky
KU
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1/28 15:16:42
I don't care enough to research it but aren't appointees
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Ragnar Danneskjold
MU
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1/28 15:20:57
how would you know if you were passed over?(nm)
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Ragnar Danneskjold
MU
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1/28 14:55:51
If you are a white male or female federal judge you will be
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Spanky
KU
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1/28 15:00:25
just following this to its ridiculous conclusion
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Ragnar Danneskjold
MU
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1/28 15:05:18
Likely a payoff
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Spanky
KU
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1/28 15:56:27
judges aren't in competitive federal service
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TigerJackSwartz
MU
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1/28 14:52:48
The only federal employees exempted (per your link) are:
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Spanky
KU
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1/28 14:54:38
no, it doesn't say "this applies to all federal employees"
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TigerJackSwartz
MU
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1/28 14:59:35
A judge is a federal employee(nm)
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Spanky
KU
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1/28 15:29:29
but not subject to Title VII (nm)
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TigerJackSwartz
MU
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1/28 15:35:24
"[1] Title VII and the ADA apply to employers (including
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Spanky
KU
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1/28 16:05:19
"Employees of the judicial branch of government not covered
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TigerJackSwartz
MU
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1/28 16:46:47
It may not
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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1/28 14:48:10
It does not, per its terms. Perhaps your "clearly illegal"
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TigerJackSwartz
MU
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1/28 14:49:12
It's technically a hire
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Sal
CMSU
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1/28 14:38:27
The president doesn't "hire" he nominates
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Ragnar Danneskjold
MU
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1/28 14:39:12
he 'recruits'
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Spanky
KU
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1/28 14:52:47
He starts the process
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Sal
CMSU
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1/28 14:40:32
Yeah I don't know but I think there has to be a distinction
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Ragnar Danneskjold
MU
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1/28 14:46:24
Any qualified person who was discriminated against based on
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Spanky
KU
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1/28 14:56:49
there are no qualifications for SCOTUS (nm)
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SwampTiger
MU
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1/28 15:33:09
I have no doubt the gov't has the ability
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Sal
CMSU
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1/28 14:47:17
no argument there(nm)
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Ragnar Danneskjold
MU
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1/28 14:50:16
Yes.
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Spanky
KU
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1/28 14:35:01
Setting apart the constitutional question, have you even
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TigerJackSwartz
MU
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1/28 14:43:10
Judges are not exempted by that
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Spanky
KU
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1/28 14:57:56
But they are not included in the list of inclusions (nm)
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TigerJackSwartz
MU
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1/28 15:02:20
They are not in the list of exclusions(nm)
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Spanky
KU
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1/28 16:06:30
So the feds can go after companies
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Sal
CMSU
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1/28 14:30:43
you got it perfectly
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meatiger
MU
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1/28 15:04:28
Not sure I'm following, are you suggesting that companies
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TigerJackSwartz
MU
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1/28 14:32:02
Nobody has suggested that (nm)
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Sal
CMSU
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1/28 14:32:32
spanky has suggested that Biden has violated Title VII
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TigerJackSwartz
MU
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1/28 14:33:20
If the POTUS can hire based off race and sex
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Sal
CMSU
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1/28 14:34:30
oops (nm)
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TigerJackSwartz
MU
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1/28 14:46:43
I thought POTUS could not nominate an SC Justice
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TigerJackSwartz
MU
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1/28 14:36:50
stop deflecting and answer the question (nm)
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Sal
CMSU
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1/28 14:38:00
well the initial question is whether Biden's stated
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TigerJackSwartz
MU
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1/28 14:44:01
RE: well the initial question is whether Biden's stated
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Sal
CMSU
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1/28 14:44:30
I'll be happy answer your secondary question
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TigerJackSwartz
MU
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1/28 14:47:57
No clue
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Sal
CMSU
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1/28 14:50:36
It is a very meaty Friday
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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1/28 14:12:34
This is a hokie-esque post(nm)
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Wildcat
KSU
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1/28 14:07:50
still tryna dance with 4Tigs every day I see(nm)
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Ragnar Danneskjold
MU
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1/28 13:59:53