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You have to differentiate democratic socialism from

Posted on: November 4, 2021 at 14:21:34 CT
MIZ45 KC
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socialism? And try to say they're totally not the same, and that democratic socialism IS NOT SOCIALISM?

Why is that?

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government should control the means of production - pickle MU - 11/4 13:54:49
     And if you don't hold this tenet, you aren't socialist. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/4 13:56:48
          in your defense you at least admit you’re a socialist (nm) - pickle MU - 11/4 14:00:24
               I don't hold that tenet. Sorry to burst your bubble of - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/4 14:05:53
                    He is stupid, so you have to keep that in mind when trying - DHighlander NWMSU - 11/4 14:29:38
                         “we must adopt some socialist principles” - pickle MU - 11/4 14:49:36
                              RE: “we must adopt some socialist principles” - sarasotatiger MU - 11/4 20:34:45
                         I could be wrong, but pickle acts like a 35-year old that - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/4 14:44:26
                         I have to say - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/4 14:34:50
                    i said you call yourself a socialist - pickle MU - 11/4 14:11:16
                         I am more of a social democrat. I don't believe in the total - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/4 14:18:37
                              Same thing. (nm) - ummmm MU - 11/4 17:50:28
                              You have to differentiate democratic socialism from - MIZ45 MU - 11/4 14:21:34
                                   Social democracy emphasizes democracy and the use of - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/4 14:30:40
                                        RE: Social democracy emphasizes democracy and the use of - sarasotatiger MU - 11/4 20:35:46
                                        so 51% of those voting - meatiger MU - 11/4 14:39:08
                                             basically, yes. He wants democratic authoritarian socialism(nm) - dangertim BSU - 11/4 14:41:35
                                                  Snarky Smallcup is very consistent - Wildcat KSU - 11/4 14:58:40
                                        Equality of opportunity? - MIZ45 MU - 11/4 14:33:05
                                             Heck no, that's naive. Capitalism provides many barriers to - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/4 14:41:10
                                                  Incorrect (nm) - MIZ45 MU - 11/4 15:00:00
                                                       RE: Incorrect (nm) - sarasotatiger MU - 11/4 20:37:31
                                                  Barriars such as permits, use fees, FICO reporting, - dangertim BSU - 11/4 14:50:55
                                                  no it doesn’t (nm) - pickle MU - 11/4 14:50:37
                                                  you know what the biggest barrier to entry is? - ashtray UF - 11/4 14:42:46
                                                       RE: you know what the biggest barrier to entry is? - sarasotatiger MU - 11/4 20:44:50
                                                       Yes. Corporatist governments like ours enforce barriers to - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/4 14:48:53
                                                            RE: Yes. Corporatist governments like ours enforce barriers to - sarasotatiger MU - 11/4 20:39:59
                                                            that’s not capitalism (nm) - pickle MU - 11/4 14:57:18
                                                                 Of course it isn't. Never said it was. I was simply - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/4 14:59:27
                                                                      where did you provide nongvmt barriers? - pickle MU - 11/4 15:02:25
                                                                           non govt barriers are those things that come from hard - ashtray UF - 11/4 15:04:39
                                                                                It's not hard work to be born into a rich family...it's just - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/4 15:11:01
                                                                                     being born into a poor family isn't a barrier to entry - ashtray UF - 11/4 15:14:41
                                                                                          RE: being born into a poor family isn't a barrier to entry - sarasotatiger MU - 11/4 20:43:00
                                                                                          Bad luck is a barrier. That's what our current society has - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/4 15:20:13
                                                                                               no, bad luck is just bad luck - ashtray UF - 11/4 15:21:31
                                                                                     capitalism doesn’t redistribute wealth - pickle MU - 11/4 15:14:33
                                                            so you have this fantasy world where corporations don't - ashtray UF - 11/4 14:55:05
                                                                 I see Scandinavia as an example. It isn't perfect, but it - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/4 14:58:02
                                                                      oh, so it works well for a tiny country with an all white - ashtray UF - 11/4 15:02:27
                                                                           That's a non sequitur. There's a growing Arab population - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/4 15:16:29
                                                                                yeah, I have a good friend that lives in Norway - ashtray UF - 11/4 15:20:22
                                                                      it's not what you think it is - FootballRefugee MU - 11/4 15:02:02
                                                       He doesnt understand that concept, and believes - tman MU - 11/4 14:48:15
                                                            exactly (nm) - ashtray UF - 11/4 14:55:23
                                             he meant to say, and really wants it to be "equality of - dangertim BSU - 11/4 14:37:44
                                                  I don't want it to be equality of outcome. That's a canard. - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/4 14:50:52
                                                       and in your world, that reward is paying more in taxes - ashtray UF - 11/4 14:56:08
                                        lmfao - pickle MU - 11/4 14:32:45
                                        Maybe you meant Socialist Repulic(nm) - tman MU - 11/4 14:32:37
                                        how do governments "promote" social justice and equality of - dangertim BSU - 11/4 14:32:15
                                             because companies voluntarily make policies to promote it - ashtray UF - 11/4 14:38:19
                                                  Dank you for volunteering for this year's collection, - dangertim BSU - 11/4 14:41:07
                              those are one in the same (nm) - Sal CMSU - 11/4 14:21:03
                              complete control over private corporations is basically the - ashtray UF - 11/4 14:20:51
                              why, is there something wrong with socialism? (nm) - pickle MU - 11/4 14:20:36
                                   Yes. And there also some things wrong with capitalism. - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/4 14:39:33
                                        lol what? (nm) - pickle MU - 11/4 14:50:09
                                             You understand the concept of mergers and cooperation - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/4 14:52:08
                                        except businesses create wealth while govt destroys it - ashtray UF - 11/4 14:41:25
                                             That's quite pithy talking point Good thing it isnt true nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/4 14:56:25
                                                  it’s 100% fact (nm) - pickle MU - 11/4 15:03:26
                                                  how does government create wealth? (nm) - ashtray UF - 11/4 14:56:54
          Real socialism has never been tried, man. (nm) - ummmm MU - 11/4 13:58:55
               Hybrid between socialism-ish ideas and capitalism works - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/4 14:08:16
                    Can we have their immigration policies(nm) - tman MU - 11/4 14:31:52
                    Well that and the crime rate is almost zero.(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 11/4 14:30:49
                         yay socialism! (nm) - ashtray UF - 11/4 14:31:47
                    And they don't have to live with blacks - Sal CMSU - 11/4 14:16:15
                         Non sequitur nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/4 14:19:20
                              no sh*t (nm) - Sal CMSU - 11/4 14:20:53
                    Goddamn, dude (nm) - MIZ45 MU - 11/4 14:15:05
                    that’s called fascism (nm) - pickle MU - 11/4 14:12:08
                         No, it isn't. That might be the dumbest thing you've ever - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/4 14:22:13
                    lol(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 11/4 14:10:39
                    I love meaningless, subjective terms like - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/4 14:10:33
                         If you don't look for the meaning in such terms, you surely - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/4 14:16:38
               if only though *fingers crossed* (nm) - Sal CMSU - 11/4 14:03:26




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