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Posted on: November 2, 2021 at 12:48:00 CT
meatiger MU
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do you want me to give a list of laws and consequences.

It is fairly easy....there will be no crimes without direct victims. It is the job of the State to protect lives and property.

I don't have every specific answer. Why does one need specific answers to everything.

Every law should pass a simple muster....is that law a case where there is a true vicitm...if not, should not be a law.

Law against murder...there is a victim
Law against drugs...no victim


This is you being stupid again and close minded...because it simply destroys your world and desire to have control over others....I used to be the same way...get the right people in charge and enforce the right laws to get things figured out..and all will be well.

I have learned from many others on here, not only is that impossible, it is wrong of me to force my views of right and wrong (without victims) upon others.
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While the dems are being really stupid proposing upwards - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/2 09:49:07
     They only care when they are in the minority - meatiger MU - 11/2 10:34:01
          I asked that they be questioned - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/2 10:36:30
               they will give you a BS answer - meatiger MU - 11/2 10:39:33
                    Please show me my hope of fiscal conservatism - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/2 10:49:48
                         So you have no hope of fiscal conservatism?(nm) - meatiger MU - 11/2 10:51:13
                              I do, but not really in the near term - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/2 10:56:27
                                   much more quickly is actually the solution. - ashtray UF - 11/2 11:02:01
                                        The fact that the GOP is turning into a Trump - meatiger MU - 11/2 11:07:04
                                             I am not a single issue budget voter - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/2 11:09:55
                                                  because you love big government - meatiger MU - 11/2 11:16:29
                                                       I don't love big government - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/2 11:17:28
                                                            yes you do (nm) - pickle MU - 11/2 11:23:45
                                                            Yes you do - meatiger MU - 11/2 11:21:48
                                                                 Acknowledging there is a proper role for government - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/2 11:30:08
                                                                      That is never what you say - meatiger MU - 11/2 11:38:28
                                                                      none of those are the proper role (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 11/2 11:33:48
                                                                           And some may agree with you - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/2 11:36:54
                                                                                At least limit it to the Constitution to start wtih - meatiger MU - 11/2 11:39:36
                                                                                     Spell out what you support government doing - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/2 11:41:30
                                                                                          RE: Spell out what you support government doing - meatiger MU - 11/2 11:47:58
                                                                                               I will say this about you - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/2 12:54:31
                                                                                                    It is a relatively new area of my approach - meatiger MU - 11/2 13:04:13
                                                                                                         There is a reason charities handled this for so long - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/2 13:08:16
                                                                                                              so why can you not ascribe that same - meatiger MU - 11/2 13:12:03
                                                                                                                   Government is responsible for the common defense - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/2 13:14:34
                                                                                                                        the war on terror and immigration and trade - meatiger MU - 11/2 13:16:24
                                                                                                                             Terror and immigration most certainly do have to do - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/2 13:20:22
                                                                                               why do you fall into his troll trap constantly? - ashtray UF - 11/2 12:44:05
                                                                                                    meat do what he do (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 11/2 12:45:35
                                                                                               Define protection of natural rights as specifically as - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/2 12:12:08
                                                                                                    RE: Define protection of natural rights as specifically as - meatiger MU - 11/2 12:20:08
                                                                                                         Spell out specifics - what would you have government do? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/2 12:30:41
                                                                                                              laws, police, and enforcement - meatiger MU - 11/2 12:34:47
                                                                                                                   OK - you cannot get specific - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/2 12:38:29
                                                                                                                        It seems fairly simple - meatiger MU - 11/2 12:48:00
                                                                                                                             Let's get into the real questions - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/2 12:50:45
                                                                                                                                  no to both - meatiger MU - 11/2 13:00:11
                                                                                                                                       You have to consider the extremes because if you claim - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/2 13:02:57
                                                                                                                                            Not true at all - meatiger MU - 11/2 13:06:11
                                                                                                                                                 If you don't have laws, there is no mechanism to stop the - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/2 13:10:32
                                                                                                                                                      So you believe in punishment for pre-crimes? - meatiger MU - 11/2 13:15:10
                                                                                                                                                           I will start at the end - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/2 13:18:56
                                                                                                                                                                you asked me what I want - meatiger MU - 11/2 13:23:22
                                                                                                                                                                     I didn't complain - I merely pointed it out what you want - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/2 13:25:24
                                                                                                                                                                          Let's say there was no speeding - meatiger MU - 11/2 13:31:00
                                                                                                                                                                               Some may, some may only go 45 - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/2 13:33:29
                                                                                                                                                                                    you have no data to back that up as well - meatiger MU - 11/2 13:40:00
                                                                                                                                                                                         And to me, and fortunately many others, it is common sense - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/2 13:56:32
                                                                                the founders agreed with me (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 11/2 11:38:51
                                                                 and the $6T “stimulus” (nm) - pickle MU - 11/2 11:24:09
                                                  it's only the most important issue when it comes to - ashtray UF - 11/2 11:11:37
                                   The last 4 years even proved that to be false - meatiger MU - 11/2 10:59:20
                                        I am a hopeful fiscal conservative - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/2 11:10:52
     At this time, the only important elections - ummmm MU - 11/2 10:02:29
          People run for school boards - meatiger MU - 11/2 10:35:10
               That's correct. A non-communist agenda is preferred - ummmm MU - 11/2 10:48:58
          I do agree we need to demand change at the local levels - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/2 10:06:22
     Everyone cared about the mental stability of the president - Wildcat KSU - 11/2 09:58:40
          It is indeed almost everything the liberal media accused - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/2 10:03:12
     That’s true… But, - hokie VT - 11/2 09:56:28
          lmfao (nm) - pickle MU - 11/2 11:07:40
          lol (nm) - ashtray UF - 11/2 11:03:24
          underfunded the military....lol(nm) - meatiger MU - 11/2 10:35:52
          And I don't disagree - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/2 10:02:11
               Yup. Nm - hokie VT - 11/2 10:09:24
          Lol Biden spent more on the military than trump - El-ahrairah BAMA - 11/2 10:01:36
               US gov't even paid the Taliban directly - mizzouSECedes STL - 11/2 10:07:51
                    to the victors go the spoils (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 11/2 10:15:16
               Answer - Wildcat KSU - 11/2 10:06:56
     As we’ve seen there’s little difference - El-ahrairah BAMA - 11/2 09:51:48
          And sadly, you may be right - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/2 09:57:56
          There is no difference. Having control of the greatest - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 11/2 09:56:16




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