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So you are for laws that work to protect liberty and freedom

Posted on: May 5, 2021 at 09:50:58 CT

4TigersinMichigan MU

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to the greatest extent, but you are not willing to support those who would provide those laws?

Not attempting to put words in your mouth, but that appears to be your position. On the one hand you support laws that best protect liberty, but you demand candidates be pure and you are absolute on the matter. While you would support laws that protect liberty to the greatest extent, you would not support a candidate who would do that over one who would not?

Isn't that an accurate analysis of what you have stated here, or am I incorrect about anything you have stated?

Edited by 4TigersinMichigan at 09:54:23 on 05/05/21

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Facebook to Trump:Stay out loser - JayHoaxH8r MU

- 5/5 08:18:00

RE: Facebook to Trump:Stay out loser - Tigrrrr! MU

- 5/5 08:31:33

This shows just how well they can monitor content when - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 08:29:47

agreed, Section 230 should be repealed (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU

- 5/5 08:46:23

looks like the liberals agree on their anti-business stance - ashtray UF - 5/5 08:47:08

so some government "interference" in the market is good now? - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 5/5 08:53:27

defamation and libel is government interference in the - ashtray UF - 5/5 08:58:10

any common law tort could be said to be then(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 5/5 08:59:16

no (nm) - pickle MU

- 5/5 09:34:03

yes(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 5/5 09:53:34

not necessarily - ashtray UF - 5/5 09:00:18

what is the made up right with defamation? - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 5/5 09:04:35

you have a right to free speech (nm) - ashtray UF - 5/5 09:05:51

and defamation is limited by that right(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 5/5 09:06:58

Incorrect (nm) - pickle MU

- 5/5 09:34:19

who limits that right?(nm) - meatiger MU - 5/5 09:07:23

The first amendment limits the right to recover for - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 5/5 09:13:53

Lol no it doesn’t (nm) - pickle MU

- 5/5 09:35:05

sure it does, rhetorical hyperbole is based in the - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 5/5 09:46:30

No it doesn’t - pickle MU

- 5/5 10:23:57

lol ok I should've seen this coming - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 5/5 10:30:00

You mean having your argument knocked down? - pickle MU

- 5/5 10:40:20

First amendment says nothing about defamation - meatiger MU - 5/5 09:28:37

Ahh this argument again. The Constitution doesn't say - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 5/5 09:33:18

non sequitur (nm) - pickle MU

- 5/5 09:35:24

He and meat don't even know what they are arguing at this - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 08:56:05

meat has absolutely no clue per usual, I can kind of see - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 5/5 09:01:18

meat is like a rask who is actually trying to grasp - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 09:10:10

I did not change the discussion - meatiger MU - 5/5 09:12:19

You claimed "need more government" - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 09:14:40

Derpflake mad^ - JayHoaxH8r MU

- 5/5 08:39:03

Not mad - just practical - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 08:39:52

it's not getting removed - JayHoaxH8r MU

- 5/5 08:40:36

that must be the pro-business stance (nm) - ashtray UF - 5/5 08:35:16

need more government(nm) - meatiger MU - 5/5 08:36:18

This would be the removal of government - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 08:38:12

Not at all - meatiger MU - 5/5 08:45:00

what government liability laws?(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 5/5 08:46:56

It is a removal of government protection - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 08:46:40

Government should be completely out of it - meatiger MU - 5/5 08:52:12

And that is fine, but this step is still not more government - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 08:55:10

Why is the protection even there? - meatiger MU - 5/5 09:00:27

That is a different argument than yours above - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 09:04:34

It is more government - meatiger MU - 5/5 09:06:52

So if there were 50 laws before, and now there would be 49 - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 09:08:26

Are you calling for the full removal of section 230 - meatiger MU - 5/5 09:11:15

In this thread I am saying for those who have demonstrated - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 09:16:10

and then Nick would be on the hook for every poster here - ashtray UF - 5/5 09:18:27

So you want government protection for such sites? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 09:21:13

if a law is made to prevent infringements on a right - ashtray UF - 5/5 09:30:38

So you buy into the notion that we should at times have more - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 09:32:21

if we are going to have a government - ashtray UF - 5/5 09:37:29

OK - as I said I am glad you put that out there - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 09:39:58

I see where you are trying to direct this conversation - ashtray UF - 5/5 09:45:57

So you are for laws that work to protect liberty and freedom - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 09:50:58

If we are going to have government forced on us - ashtray UF - 5/5 10:02:35

So you agree laws can matter, and those who support some - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 10:10:38

no, it isn't a fair representation at all - ashtray UF - 5/5 10:17:20

So you say it does not matter who gets elected, yet the laws - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 10:27:34

I haven't agreed to that point - ashtray UF - 5/5 10:41:08

I get what you are saying - I just cannot follow it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 10:44:54

yeah, you're not following - ashtray UF - 5/5 10:51:03

Well, you said above you support laws that protect rights - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 11:10:24

I would prefer the removal of section 230 - meatiger MU - 5/5 09:29:51

And as I said elsewhere, that is a totally different - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 09:34:00

That post was hyperbole - meatiger MU - 5/5 11:01:29

I didn't say I had faith in government - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 11:11:22

is your solution to remove Section 320 - meatiger MU - 5/5 11:14:53

As I said elsewhere, I would have no issues with removing it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 11:22:59

Doesn't your 2nd option require more government - meatiger MU - 5/5 11:28:46

They already are meat(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 11:57:21

hence the problem(nm) - meatiger MU - 5/5 12:24:18

false (nm) - ashtray UF - 5/5 08:39:02

How is it not? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 08:41:44

I know you can't think past your nose - ashtray UF - 5/5 08:44:24

I will let your words here stand for themselves - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 08:45:27

good laydown, retard (nm) - ashtray UF - 5/5 08:45:52

wouldn't removing govt protection be less govt?(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 5/5 08:38:06

what is the protection from? - ashtray UF - 5/5 08:39:45

You are such an idiot - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 08:43:00

you clearly don't understand the issue (nm) - ashtray UF - 5/5 08:44:40

private law suits - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 5/5 08:42:03

Yet it was the US gvmt going up against the ACLU - pickle MU

- 5/5 08:48:38

what?(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 5/5 08:52:36

RE: what?(nm) - pickle MU

- 5/5 08:55:24

lawsuits based on what? (nm) - ashtray UF - 5/5 08:44:51

content they publish(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 5/5 08:46:02

what suit can be brought for that? (nm) - ashtray UF - 5/5 08:46:27

libel and defamation I think are the main ones - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 5/5 08:47:37

so the protection is from government made up laws - ashtray UF - 5/5 08:49:08

uh defamation is a common law tort - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 5/5 08:50:35

well, you know my opinion about what needs to be - ashtray UF - 5/5 08:56:33

Well, thus far you have been arguing in favor of Section 230 - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 08:58:05

or you're just too stupid to understand the argument - ashtray UF - 5/5 08:58:57

The record is clear - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 09:00:53

you only advocated for removing half of it - ashtray UF - 5/5 09:05:02

Yes (nm) - pickle MU

- 5/5 09:28:06

And yet you and meat labled that more government - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 09:07:19

it is more government - ashtray UF - 5/5 09:09:33

So to you smaller government is not about fewer laws and - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 09:13:08

no, how stupid of you - ashtray UF - 5/5 09:17:38

The beauty of threads such as this - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 09:18:58

yes, everybody can see just how stupid you are - ashtray UF - 5/5 09:19:41

defamation is anti-free speech (nm) - pickle MU

- 5/5 08:56:21

These idiots have their talking points and then show - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 08:38:54

meat for sure, but ashtray isn't often factually wrong(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 5/5 08:45:14

He has become emotional and hormonal - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 08:47:38

says the poster making an emotional stance - ashtray UF - 5/5 08:50:04

How it is emotional? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 08:53:04

because you're basing it on your feelings (nm) - ashtray UF - 5/5 08:57:35

No, I am basing it on Facebook's actions - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 08:59:21

lol. ok, snowflake (nm) - ashtray UF - 5/5 09:00:34

but only when feelings are hurt - ashtray UF - 5/5 08:37:38

Speaking of losers, did you find a job yet?(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 5/5 08:27:15

The board also said the indefinite, arbitrary ban goes - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 5/5 08:23:41

After the "BIG LIE" blows over.(nm) - Toger STL - 5/5 08:27:04

Are they still allowing fake news about Trump - Sal CMSU - 5/5 08:26:16

wUtAb0uT!!! - JayHoaxH8r MU

- 5/5 08:40:14

I will give them credit for at least trying by putting this - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 5/5 08:31:00

Of course they are. - RHAYWORTH MU - 5/5 08:29:41

Have you figured out how a 4 page memo - Sal CMSU - 5/5 08:20:09

That's because - dangertim MU

- 5/5 08:33:45

I'm glad you're hearing the roosky talk again too. - Toger STL - 5/5 08:40:37

what is facebook? sounds stupid(nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 5/5 08:19:02

The people on it.(nm) - Toger STL - 5/5 08:22:35

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