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A bit of the history

Posted on: April 28, 2021 at 10:29:22 CT
meatiger MU
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https://www.sofi.com/learn/content/history-of-the-stock-market/#:~:text=Exchange%20(NYSE).-,Although%20the%20first%20stock%20market%20began%20in%20Amsterdam%20in%201611,was%20America's%20first%20stock%20exchange.

SEC was created in 1934..so would have been much fewer rules than before that.

As typical with government, a new agency was created after a "problem" and it grows out of control since.
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what’s wrong with capitalism? - pickle MU - 4/28 08:54:00
     Not at all(nm) - meatiger MU - 4/28 10:08:55
     Quite possibly.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 4/28 09:55:30
          If it’s regulated, is it still capitalism? (nm) - pickle MU - 4/28 10:24:30
          Shocking....siding with government yet again(nm) - meatiger MU - 4/28 10:09:13
          good post GAT (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 4/28 10:06:02
               In fairness, GAT is probably the best suited on this board - tigerdb MU - 4/28 10:24:55
     Wrong board(nm) - tman MU - 4/28 09:33:45
          good call. Actually, an excellent call. - Ace A - 4/28 09:52:58
     is insider trading something you are comfortable with? - Ace A - 4/28 08:56:52
          yes (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/28 10:54:13
          Do I like it…no - meatiger MU - 4/28 09:33:15
          yes (nm) - Sal CMSU - 4/28 09:27:19
          Cheating is fine. In elections, business, or whatever the - hokie VT - 4/28 09:13:47
               insider trading isn't cheating (nm) - Sal CMSU - 4/28 09:31:28
                    It's fraud. - tigerdb MU - 4/28 09:47:56
                         lmfao (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/28 10:53:42
                              You are literally dumb as sh it, teetee. - tigerdb MU - 4/28 14:48:19
                         lol no it isn’t (nm) - pickle MU - 4/28 10:15:49
                         In general insider information is not stealing - meatiger MU - 4/28 09:51:24
                              It's the taking of something that one wasn't authorized to - tigerdb MU - 4/28 09:55:16
                                   No (nm) - pickle MU - 4/28 10:16:08
                                   Insider trading has nothing to do with taking the info - meatiger MU - 4/28 09:57:04
                         it's not stealing information (nm) - Sal CMSU - 4/28 09:48:54
                    Then why is it illegal? Or are you attempting to - hokie VT - 4/28 09:45:14
                         oh, dear (nm) - pickle MU - 4/28 10:16:45
               insider trading isn’t “cheating”, hokie (nm) - pickle MU - 4/28 09:27:02
               it's not cheating if there's no rule against it (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 4/28 09:20:03
                    No rule against insider trading? I didn’t know that. So - hokie VT - 4/28 09:28:43
                         I didn't say there was no rule against it. try paying - SwampTiger MU - 4/28 09:29:49
                              he's very slow (nm) - ashtray UF - 4/28 09:56:44
          absolutely (nm) - pickle MU - 4/28 09:05:03
          sure, what's wrong with it? (nm) - ashtray UF - 4/28 08:59:29
               unequal access, opportunity, gaming the system - Ace A - 4/28 09:04:30
                    what makes you think "access" (whatever the hell that - 90Tiger STL - 4/28 10:54:48
                    employee and friends and family discounts are unequal - dangertim MU - 4/28 09:33:34
                    Why should non-employees have equal access - Sal CMSU - 4/28 09:32:17
                         They shouldn't...but if Company A is looking to buy Co B. - tigerdb MU - 4/28 09:38:43
                              why not? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/28 10:55:13
                              why not? (nm) - ashtray UF - 4/28 09:54:57
                    why does access to info have to be equal?(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 4/28 09:25:46
                         when you've invited investors to put money into the company - Ace A - 4/28 09:30:38
                              insider trading is public information - ashtray UF - 4/28 09:56:01
                         I deserve to have free Bloomberg Terminal access to make - dangertim MU - 4/28 09:29:03
                    unequal access to what? - pickle MU - 4/28 09:06:24
                         information impacting company success and/or failure - Ace A - 4/28 09:10:25
                              then equal access is unattainable - pickle MU - 4/28 09:23:31
                                   Perhaps they should have blackout periods(nm) - tigerdb MU - 4/28 09:34:39
                                   I'm not here to educate you, but you are free to educate - Ace A - 4/28 09:25:19
                                        circular argument - and a strawman. good work, dunce (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/28 10:55:56
                                        no one is arguing that it's not illegal - MizzouAstro MU - 4/28 09:27:25
                                             the question was do markets need oversight & regulation - Ace A - 4/28 09:32:24
                                                  no, the original question was whether or not - Sal CMSU - 4/28 09:34:45
                                                       the pickle's comfortable with a lot of things that just - tigerdb MU - 4/28 09:39:46
                                                            feelings over facts (nm) - pickle MU - 4/28 09:41:24
                                                                 You have provided no facts(nm) - tigerdb MU - 4/28 09:46:39
                                                                      actually, i have - pickle MU - 4/28 09:51:47
                                                                           No - that's an opinion. - tigerdb MU - 4/28 09:53:32
                                                                                No, it’s a fact - pickle MU - 4/28 10:03:22
                                                                                     You have no facts - NUMBERS to back up your opinion. - tigerdb MU - 4/28 10:09:30
                                                                                          Numbers? What do numbers have to do with anything? (nm) - pickle MU - 4/28 10:17:46
                                                                                why not? (nm) - ashtray UF - 4/28 09:54:15
                                                            "that just aren't right" - Sal CMSU - 4/28 09:40:30
                                        “it’s the law” is not an argument - pickle MU - 4/28 09:25:53
                                             Ignorance is unbecoming - Ace A - 4/28 09:26:36
                                                  lay down (nm) - pickle MU - 4/28 09:27:17
                                                       you're not very bright - Ace A - 4/28 09:31:03
                                                            troll (nm) - pickle MU - 4/28 09:37:01
                                                                 your intellect grossly trails your opinion - Ace A - 4/28 09:55:04
                                                                 DOC (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 4/28 09:37:46
                    in other words "It's not fair!!!!" (nm) - ashtray UF - 4/28 09:05:18
                         That's one way of putting it - why should company employees - tigerdb MU - 4/28 09:12:56
                              why shouldn’t they? - pickle MU - 4/28 09:24:36
                                   No, it's not a signal to everybody. - tigerdb MU - 4/28 09:28:41
                                        It is a signal to everyone - pickle MU - 4/28 09:37:40
                                        And? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 4/28 09:30:36
                                             and what? - tigerdb MU - 4/28 09:33:57
                                                  No, you and others aren't grasping - Sal CMSU - 4/28 09:35:53
                         RE: in other words "It's not fair!!!!" (nm) - markymarksthirdnipple STL - 4/28 09:12:27
                              The public would make decisions based off those actions (nm) - Sal CMSU - 4/28 09:29:14
                              how could you say it's not ok?(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 4/28 09:26:23
                              Once they trade, that info is available to the public (nm) - pickle MU - 4/28 09:25:20
                                   Why would that info be made public? - cnk ATL - 4/28 09:35:32
                                        The info - the signal - is the movement of shares - pickle MU - 4/28 09:39:59
                                             But isn't that public information only because it's a legal - cnk ATL - 4/28 09:45:11
                                                  If it were a member of an exchange, yes (nm) - pickle MU - 4/28 10:04:44
                                                       so is public disclosure a characteristic of exchanges - cnk ATL - 4/28 10:13:22
                                                            History of stock exchanges - Ace A - 4/28 10:41:25
                                                            i don’t know the history of it - pickle MU - 4/28 10:19:54
                                                                 A bit of the history - meatiger MU - 4/28 10:29:22
                                                                 If we assume it is a government invention - cnk ATL - 4/28 10:25:58
                                                                      i see what you’re saying - pickle MU - 4/28 10:55:08
                                                                      You are overthinking it - meatiger MU - 4/28 10:30:25
                                                                           how can you argue that government regulation - cnk ATL - 4/28 10:41:16
                                                                                the question was do markets NEED - meatiger MU - 4/28 10:43:27
                                                                                     correct - cnk ATL - 4/28 10:47:21
                                                                                          take government regulations completely out of stocks - meatiger MU - 4/28 10:48:45
                                                                                               You could always look at the last time the stock market - tigerdb MU - 4/28 10:52:07
                                                                                                    We have had many crashes since(nm) - meatiger MU - 4/28 10:54:28
                                                                                                         None as severe/prolonged though. Three of the five - tigerdb MU - 4/28 11:11:20
                                                                                                              All a result of expansion of credit - pickle MU - 4/28 11:17:12
                                                                                               I have no idea - cnk ATL - 4/28 10:49:51
                                                                           It's certainly a far better system than what existed before - tigerdb MU - 4/28 10:36:04
                                                                                Where would you put your money? - meatiger MU - 4/28 10:40:30
                                                                                     The regulations are present to give investors a level playin - tigerdb MU - 4/28 10:50:23
                                                                 Do you know the history of govt regulations in the stock - tigerdb MU - 4/28 10:21:47
                                                  Do you not think exchanges would have their own set of rules - meatiger MU - 4/28 09:50:04
                                                       That's sort of what I'm asking - cnk ATL - 4/28 09:56:42
                                                  No, it's public information because they decided - Sal CMSU - 4/28 09:49:33
                                                       You don't comprehend cnk's point - tigerdb MU - 4/28 09:52:13
                                                            It would still exist without gov't regulation (nm) - Sal CMSU - 4/28 09:55:05
                                                            exchanges report transactions because there is an - ashtray UF - 4/28 09:52:49
                                                       a publicly traded company is a legal definition defined - cnk ATL - 4/28 09:51:06
                                                            Companies don't become public b/c of the gov't though (nm) - Sal CMSU - 4/28 09:56:00
                                                                 "becoming public" is a government invention right?(nm) - cnk ATL - 4/28 10:01:46
                                                                      they may have created the term - Sal CMSU - 4/28 10:08:47
                                                                           was public disclosures part of that or was that requred - cnk ATL - 4/28 10:15:29
                                                                                I think government put forth regulations - meatiger MU - 4/28 10:19:14
                                                                      The government has inserted itself into trading - meatiger MU - 4/28 10:07:30
                                                                           and the market loves that intervention - because it gives - tigerdb MU - 4/28 10:12:09
                                                                                Let the markets do it - meatiger MU - 4/28 10:17:50
                                                                                     Welcome to 1929(nm) - tigerdb MU - 4/28 10:20:25
                                                                                          meaning? (nm) - pickle MU - 4/28 10:56:17
                                             You either missed his point or were just ignoring it. - tigerdb MU - 4/28 09:43:30
                                                  then they wouldn't be a publicly traded company (nm) - Sal CMSU - 4/28 09:45:49
                                                       LOL(nm) - tigerdb MU - 4/28 09:50:00
                              because those traders' behavior provides signals - ashtray UF - 4/28 09:15:27
                                   exactly (nm) - pickle MU - 4/28 09:26:08
                                   it's early in the day, but this is a nominee for worst post(nm) - markymarksthirdnipple STL - 4/28 09:20:23
                                        how does someone making a profit on information that - ashtray UF - 4/28 09:23:20
                                   That's daf(nm) - tigerdb MU - 4/28 09:16:19
                                        it's 100% accurate (nm) - Sal CMSU - 4/28 09:29:42
          He's more of a child labor kinda guy(nm) - Gyro MU - 4/28 08:58:09
               As an ambulance chaser, I'd have thought you would support - TigerMatt - 4/28 09:09:30
                    You do realize that I don't "chase ambulances" right? - Gyro MU - 4/28 10:10:00
                         he got to you (nm) - pickle MU - 4/28 10:26:44
               like kids mowing lawns for pay? - pickle MU - 4/28 09:07:38




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