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The founders believed in a creator, something those here

Posted on: February 18, 2021 at 08:37:16 CT
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have denied, they also knew that not everyone shared that view. That is why they chose to identify those rights and put the full force of their new government behind protecting them.

They understood that simple belief in a right does not guarantee that people have that right. They wanted their new government to back those rights and assure that they applied to the citizens of the nation that they were creating. At that time is was unheard of and very revolutionary.
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     nothing wrong with people believing in religion - ashtray UF - 2/18 07:48:17
          Does "forcing it" on you include displaying public - hokie VT - 2/18 09:35:04
               no, I don't mean that at all - ashtray UF - 2/18 10:13:25
               can you stop being stupid and have a discussion - pickle MU - 2/18 09:42:38
          But everyone has to accept your vision of Natural Rights? - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/18 08:02:10
               Force vs persuasion. (nm) - ummmm MU - 2/18 08:03:23
                    Other than the muzz, who forces religion on people? nm - hokie VT - 2/18 08:24:57
                         the Catholic church has, and other religions - pickle MU - 2/18 08:28:33
                    You have failed to persuade many here. Yet you still demand - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/18 08:14:11
                         did you and RHAY go to the same school? - pickle MU - 2/18 08:15:01
                              No, your arguments all hinge on your belief in Natural - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/18 08:18:00
                                   no one on this board who supports natural rights - pickle MU - 2/18 08:20:58
                                        Other than you, every single day, every single post. - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/18 08:23:36
                                             why do you not know what demand means? - pickle MU - 2/18 08:24:52
                                                  Old enough to know I'm arguing with a child. - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/18 08:31:47
                                                       But he will demand that you accept his views or he will take - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/18 08:38:26
                                                            i guess you two did go to the same school - pickle MU - 2/18 08:40:45
                                                       why do you not know what demand means? (nm) - pickle MU - 2/18 08:37:34
                                   so did the founders have it all wrong? - ashtray UF - 2/18 08:20:41
                                        The founders believed in a creator, something those here - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/18 08:37:16
                                             "inalienable" "secure" (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 2/18 08:40:13
                                             that’s incorrect. they said “all men” - pickle MU - 2/18 08:39:36
                                                  The US Constitution done NOT apply to all men. - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/18 08:59:21
                                                       Yes, it does. Everyone on earth has constitutional - pickle MU - 2/18 09:22:27
                                                            NO they don't you idiot. Afghanis are currently faced with - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/18 09:28:29
                                                                 you’re incorrect (nm) - pickle MU - 2/18 09:41:36
                                                       false - ashtray UF - 2/18 09:04:16
                                                            Damn! Learn to read. I said a man IN China. A man in - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/18 09:14:02
                                                                 Yes, he does. When the US gvmt is opposing party - pickle MU - 2/18 09:23:55
                                                                      You are adding things to try and make an argument. I said - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/18 09:30:50
                                                                           no, you need to back up to the beginning - pickle MU - 2/18 09:48:04
                                                                                And I corrected that because I knew your pedantic mind - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/18 10:25:36
                                                                                     Everyone on earth has those same constitutional protections(nm) - pickle MU - 2/18 10:55:17
                                                                 nobody has ever said otherwise - ashtray UF - 2/18 09:15:13
                                                                      No I am not. I pointed out that the Constitution does NOT - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/18 09:17:43
                                                                           the Constitution applies to the federal gvmt, not to people - pickle MU - 2/18 09:26:52
                                                                           but you keep using the word citizen, that's the issue (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 2/18 09:18:52
                                                                                And because I am discussing this with pedantic idiots in the - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/18 09:24:04
                                                                                     words have meaning, especially in this context - SwampTiger MU - 2/18 09:27:42
                                                                                     And you’re still wrong (nm) - pickle MU - 2/18 09:24:40
                                             that's incorrect - ashtray UF - 2/18 08:39:11
                                                  Which is exactly what I said. They believed those rights - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/18 09:10:45
                                                       so nature is a faith? - ashtray UF - 2/18 09:13:18
                                                            Prove that natural rights come from nature. Can you - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/18 09:20:42
                                                                 natural, meaning not artificial (nm) - pickle MU - 2/18 09:27:29
                                        he has said he disagrees with them (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 2/18 08:25:56
                                             Actually I have never said that. As Pizzle would say 'Learn - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/18 08:40:28
                                                  founders: "truths", DH: "opinion" (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 2/18 08:46:43
                                                       founders: "inalienable" DH: "only possess if guaranteed by - SwampTiger MU - 2/18 08:49:52
                                                            founders: "Liberty" DH: " 75% liberty" (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 2/18 08:51:03
                                                                 founders: "self evident" DH: “opinion” (nm) - pickle MU - 2/18 08:54:50
                                                  everybody was created by nature - ashtray UF - 2/18 08:43:06
                                                  Oh, Pizzle is Spanky - pickle MU - 2/18 08:41:25
                                             then he disagrees with the very founding of the nation - ashtray UF - 2/18 08:29:20
                                                  no doubt about that (nm) - pickle MU - 2/18 08:29:57
                                             I summarized his disagreements with them here - SwampTiger MU - 2/18 08:27:31
               natural rights theory isn't a religion - ashtray UF - 2/18 08:03:04
                    It most definitely is. There is no basis for it outside of - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/18 08:12:36
                         it's a philosophical idea that follows logic - ashtray UF - 2/18 08:15:40
                              Then use logic to prove them. None of you have successfully - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/18 08:18:46
                                   you don't have the attention span nor the willingness - ashtray UF - 2/18 08:22:32
                                        NO every time any of you fools have tried you have failed - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/18 09:01:53
                                             I just did - ashtray UF - 2/18 09:05:09
                                                  You're an idiot. Also an observation. You are unable to - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/18 09:15:44
                                                       so you're saying you weren't created by nature? - ashtray UF - 2/18 09:17:22
                                                            No it is not you fool. Calling them Natural Rights does not - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/18 09:49:40
                                                                 They have always existed - pickle MU - 2/18 10:17:03
                                                                 so breathing is natural but your creation was not - ashtray UF - 2/18 10:15:10
                         who is “Pizzle”? (nm) - pickle MU - 2/18 08:13:22
                              It is a term used for a cock. I will let you figure it out - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/18 08:15:36
                                   who is “Pizzle”? (nm) - pickle MU - 2/18 08:21:18
               why are you stupid? (nm) - pickle MU - 2/18 08:03:02
                    a question you should ask yourself but sadly don't. - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/18 08:17:47
     We knew this before a study - raskolnikov MU - 2/18 07:45:52
          Not everyone is as smart as you. Shouldn’t you be at work? - hokie VT - 2/18 07:48:56
     so what's your comment? (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 2/18 07:45:34
          Shocking, the cowardly swamprat responds with a question. Nm - hokie VT - 2/18 07:47:28
               you didn't ask me to comment hokie - SwampTiger MU - 2/18 07:52:32
                    mocking religions other than Christian is different, I guess - ashtray UF - 2/18 07:57:43
                    he won’t get that at all (nm) - pickle MU - 2/18 07:56:40
                         yeah, I know - SwampTiger MU - 2/18 08:28:13
     wrong board (nm) - pickle MU - 2/18 07:43:56




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