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But sex is not always black and white.

Posted on: February 1, 2021 at 13:26:41 CT

kmawv8 MU

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Even if you create a black and white definition, not everyone fits in your two boxes. "Science" doesn't say you're either male of female. There's chromosomes, hormones, genitals and it's not as black and white as you're making it.

As for gender being a social construct, it is and has always been.

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Let me ask this about social constructs - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/1 12:22:07

Gender is only a social construct because 'social - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/1 12:30:04

Hold on. How is "gender is a social construct" even a - ummmm MU - 2/1 12:35:28

Yes, see climate change....nm - tigertix MU - 2/1 12:33:14

that is not true - pickle MU

- 2/1 12:30:55

Setting aside the absolute nature of his statement, a - ummmm MU - 2/1 12:36:43

Yep (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/1 13:50:22

gender isn't BUT gender roles are(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/1 12:31:57

you’re confusing sex and gender (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/1 12:34:20

once again, you've taught me something today(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/1 12:38:47

Did he teach you something new or did you already know he - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/1 12:57:48

that’s incorrect. - pickle MU

- 2/1 13:45:30

This is wrong. Other genders existed before DNA was even - TigerMatt STL - 2/1 13:11:12

scientifically is an incorrect word choice (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/1 12:29:53

What is a valid social construct? And what is an invalid - ummmm MU - 2/1 12:28:29

I am asking those who have told me gender is a social - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/1 12:32:05

I know you're talking about gender. But you raised this - ummmm MU - 2/1 12:33:40

I am asking for the opinion of those who choose to share - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/1 12:35:50

Your question is a false premise - pickle MU

- 2/1 12:44:17

Your question doesn't make sense. - ummmm MU - 2/1 12:38:30

Then you would say yes, you can have a valid social - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/1 12:46:16

I don't know what a valid social construct is. - ummmm MU - 2/1 12:52:22

A social construct is, by it's nature, subjective and open - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/1 12:59:21

How is it any different than religion?(nm) - meatiger MU - 2/1 13:08:00

No one is being pushed to take sensitivity seminars or - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/1 13:11:58

I see people pushing their religion all of the time - meatiger MU - 2/1 13:17:33

Good grief meat - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/1 13:19:54

Of course you do not want to deal with it - meatiger MU - 2/1 13:20:49

Gender =/= biological sex. (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 2/1 13:05:08

I know that is the case now - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/1 13:15:12

it has always been the case (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/1 14:22:12

There is a way. It is not just about chromosomes. There - TigerMatt STL - 2/1 13:23:56

I meant, your (i.e. 4Tig's) subjectivity. - ummmm MU - 2/1 13:04:16

It's my opinion - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/1 13:07:16

Yeah, that's my point too. So, I don't understand why you - ummmm MU - 2/1 13:12:06

I consider such social constructs invalid - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/1 13:14:29

Genetics isn't clear male/female. It is more complicated - TigerMatt STL - 2/1 13:15:32

Do you not use the term "gender" at all? (nm) - ummmm MU - 2/1 13:15:10

I pretty much always use the term sex as they are - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/1 13:16:32

But they're not one and the same. They are different - ummmm MU - 2/1 13:22:00

As I said, I reject social constructs that are fairy tale in - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/1 13:23:32

astonishing how ignorant you are (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 2/1 14:31:14

Not astonishing at all(nm) - meatiger MU - 2/1 14:39:41

Then you're barking up the wrong tree, because gender - ummmm MU - 2/1 13:27:00

According to our social construct, that is true - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/1 13:29:37

You have a really confusing understanding of social - ummmm MU - 2/1 13:32:45

As I have said, it is an opinion question - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/1 13:33:39

Society doesn't deem. (nm) - ummmm MU - 2/1 13:35:46

So what's your explanation for those that are not born with - kmawv8 MU - 2/1 13:17:58

There are outliers for almost everything - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/1 13:22:34

The point is to respect those outliers. Some a batshiit - TigerMatt STL - 2/1 13:26:53

There are always causes to respect outliers - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/1 13:32:20

They shouldn't be treated as outliers. They are real people - TigerMatt STL - 2/1 13:33:43

Real Problems as deemed by whom?(nm) - meatiger MU - 2/1 13:44:23

An amputee is an outlier - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/1 13:36:11

And nearly all of them would prefer to be born into the - kmawv8 MU - 2/1 13:27:55

I'd imagine so. But I don't think mental health aspects - TigerMatt STL - 2/1 13:32:35

I can't say that I've talked with or been around many people - kmawv8 MU - 2/1 13:38:07

But sex is not always black and white. - kmawv8 MU - 2/1 13:26:41

There are always outliers - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/1 13:37:45

Why are you so focused on - meatiger MU - 2/1 13:24:12

I am more interested on things being factual - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/1 13:26:32

So, how do YOU define sex? - kmawv8 MU - 2/1 13:28:53

Based on chromosomes(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/1 13:34:15

So someone that is born with female chromosomes - kmawv8 MU - 2/1 13:39:43

46,XX karotype also produces testes adding to the issue.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 2/1 13:41:43

SRY gene can result in someone with XX chromosomes - TigerMatt STL - 2/1 13:38:27

Science disagrees with you. It is far more complicated than - TigerMatt STL - 2/1 13:34:48

In some instances - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/1 13:36:47

Disorders of sex development affect 1 in 100. That is - TigerMatt STL - 2/1 13:40:11

Well you are ignoring biologists. Sex is a spectrum. No - TigerMatt STL - 2/1 13:28:18

And no man can be a woman - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/1 13:34:57

you're an idiot stuck in a mythologically fueled paradigm - 90Tiger STL - 2/1 14:33:31

So I am an idiot because I dare to challenge a construct - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/1 16:50:26

Genetics isn't black and white.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 2/1 13:35:27

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