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Well, we have a system in the United States

Posted on: January 8, 2021 at 12:11:22 CT
4TigersinMichigan MU
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If you complain the system does not work, and then refuse to participate in the system to make it work at least a little better, you are simply farting into the wind.
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My suggested slogan for the Libertarian Party - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 11:43:01
     The Republicans and Democrats should have the same slogan(nm) - El-ahrairah BAMA - 1/8 12:05:59
     You drew out all the imbeciles with that one (nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 1/8 12:03:44
          ^^^^ left leaning authoritarian (nm) - ashtray UF - 1/8 12:07:39
     I've asked you twice what they should do. So, WHAT IS IT? - GA Tiger MU - 1/8 11:59:18
          4Tigs is far more liberal than he gives himself credit for (nm) - ashtray UF - 1/8 12:06:35
          taking time out from looking for election fraud GAT? - JG MU - 1/8 12:03:09
               Finally.. a Democrat representative shows up.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 1/8 12:04:37
          I would work to come up with a convincing message to - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 12:02:49
               why do you keep talking about the Libertarian Party - pickle MU - 1/8 12:09:26
               Who complains that no one really gets them? - kmawv8 MU - 1/8 12:04:56
     As if, only the government can do "things". (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/8 11:53:58
          Apperently - meatiger MU - 1/8 11:55:02
          In our constitutional republic - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 11:54:44
               That's the problem. Govt monopolies. - ummmm MU - 1/8 11:57:14
               more intellectual dishonesty - pickle MU - 1/8 11:55:51
                    Rofl? Intellectual dishonesty is the core of your beliefs . - RHAYWORTH MU - 1/8 12:07:39
                         one giant straw man. well done, RHAY (nm) - pickle MU - 1/8 12:10:01
                         you might want to sit this one out - ashtray UF - 1/8 12:08:17
                    and it happens with every single discussion he gets into - ashtray UF - 1/8 11:56:57
                         yep (nm) - pickle MU - 1/8 11:57:40
               spoken like a true socialist(nm) - meatiger MU - 1/8 11:55:34
                    How is that socialist? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 11:56:31
                         in a centrally planned socialist country - ashtray UF - 1/8 11:58:48
                              That is a problem when government tries to control all - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 12:01:31
                                   you weren’t asked that (nm) - pickle MU - 1/8 12:10:50
                                   you mean like everything they do now (nm) - ashtray UF - 1/8 12:02:57
                                        They are absolutely involved in way too much - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 12:03:58
                                             Again, you weren't asked. And the comment that was made - kmawv8 MU - 1/8 12:07:19
                                             yet...government keeps taking and keeping that authority(nm) - meatiger MU - 1/8 12:05:26
                                                  And that is not good - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 12:07:06
                                                       So the difference in Libertarians and yourself is voting. - kmawv8 MU - 1/8 12:09:30
                                                            Well, we have a system in the United States - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 12:11:22
                                                                 correct, socialism doesn't work - ashtray UF - 1/8 12:19:21
                                                                 again, you are reframing the discussion - pickle MU - 1/8 12:13:56
                                                                 And if you play the system and things continue to get worse - kmawv8 MU - 1/8 12:12:56
                                                                      he doesn’t want to understand - pickle MU - 1/8 12:14:42
                                                                      Back to my point - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 12:14:34
                                                                           Who's *****ing about nothing getting done? - kmawv8 MU - 1/8 12:16:58
                                                                           Straw man (nm) - pickle MU - 1/8 12:15:00
                                                       which wing of the establishment party wants to do that? (nm) - ashtray UF - 1/8 12:09:13
                                             so why aren't you clamoring to go back to those things only? - ashtray UF - 1/8 12:05:16
                                                  I have advocated going back to many of those things - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 12:08:17
                                                       why do you ignore the argument & basis of non participation? - pickle MU - 1/8 12:12:52
                                                       So you vote and complain about things heading south - kmawv8 MU - 1/8 12:10:34
                                                       How is that working out for you?(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 1/8 12:09:53
                                                            Well, in my state during COVID times - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 12:12:03
                                                                 So record government spending and a state that - kmawv8 MU - 1/8 12:14:24
                                                                      Not it all areas - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 12:17:05
                                                                           So you're saying that in a limited area, they guy you voted - kmawv8 MU - 1/8 12:23:25
                                                                                I say 40% of something is often if not always better than - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 12:24:38
                                                       when? (nm) - ashtray UF - 1/8 12:09:25
                                                            Plenty of times - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 12:13:53
                                                                 only the ones you disagree with - ashtray UF - 1/8 12:17:31
                                                                      That is not what you asked - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 12:18:45
                                                                           it's exactly what I asked - ashtray UF - 1/8 12:20:29
                                                                                I said I advocated for going back on many, not all, of - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 12:25:46
                                                                                     why not all? - ashtray UF - 1/8 12:26:33
                                   Authorized by whom? - meatiger MU - 1/8 12:02:21
                                        The United States Constitution(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 12:03:13
                                             where is drug control in the - meatiger MU - 1/8 12:04:40
                                                  Where did I say everything they are doing now is their - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 12:09:15
                                             you think they have stuck to the Constitution? (nm) - ashtray UF - 1/8 12:04:26
                                                  When have I ever said or implied that? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 12:19:30
                                                       RE: When have I ever said or implied that? - ashtray UF - 1/8 12:20:58
                                                            I said that is what authorized what government can and - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 12:26:41
                                                                 yet you keep electing politicians that do more (nm) - ashtray UF - 1/8 12:27:39
                         you literally said for stuff to get done - meatiger MU - 1/8 11:57:26
                              No, I was asked if only the government can do "things" - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 11:58:48
                                   you weren’t asked (nm) - pickle MU - 1/8 11:59:44
                         You want others to answer your questions in a way that - kmawv8 MU - 1/8 11:57:16
               only because your party made it that way (nm) - ashtray UF - 1/8 11:55:34
                    No, the framers of our Constitution made it that way - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 11:57:26
                         this isn’t the topic - pickle MU - 1/8 11:58:45
     more collectivist thinking - ashtray UF - 1/8 11:46:46
     It's really strange to solidify your political views based - kmawv8 MU - 1/8 11:46:07
          That isn't the issue - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 11:49:57
               straw man (nm) - pickle MU - 1/8 11:54:08
               EVERYONE believes their views are better - kmawv8 MU - 1/8 11:53:52
                    nailed it. (nm) - DC Jayhawk KU - 1/8 12:44:14
               who has ever suggested that nothing gets done?(nm) - meatiger MU - 1/8 11:50:38
                    Oh yeah, I forgot - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 11:51:36
                         another straw man (nm) - pickle MU - 1/8 11:54:30
                         Do we NEED government - meatiger MU - 1/8 11:52:24
                              In a constitutional republic - yes(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 11:53:00
                                   You're funny though. You seem relatively smart, but not - Newcatbirdseat MU - 1/8 11:56:01
                                        I don't believe there is any magic formula - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 11:59:52
                                             So you're saying you don't do anything either - kmawv8 MU - 1/8 12:03:15
                                             again, you are trying to change the topic - pickle MU - 1/8 12:01:05
                                   answer the question asked - pickle MU - 1/8 11:55:02
          you just might turn him muslim - meatiger MU - 1/8 11:48:40
     straw man - pickle MU - 1/8 11:46:00
          in his mind - meatiger MU - 1/8 11:48:03
               i know, but it’s a straw man (nm) - pickle MU - 1/8 11:53:36
               he works so hard at voting - ashtray UF - 1/8 11:48:46
     Again.. libertarians are not a collective represented by - TigerMatt STL - 1/8 11:45:21
          Correct - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 11:46:33
               again, you just cannot help yourself - ashtray UF - 1/8 11:47:55
               How dare a group of people - meatiger MU - 1/8 11:47:43
     RE: My suggested slogan for the Libertarian Party - TigerFan92 STL - 1/8 11:45:11
     it is not about people doing nothing - meatiger MU - 1/8 11:44:02
          meat - SwampTiger MU - 1/8 11:48:26
               to be a troll - meatiger MU - 1/8 11:51:22
          smug troll - pickle MU - 1/8 11:45:23




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