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Posted on: January 8, 2021 at 11:49:57 CT

4TigersinMichigan MU

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M.O.B. Votes:

It is the notion of libertarians on this board who apparently believe their ideas are better. And since they feel that way, their idea is to do nothing other than to tell everyone else they are stupid for not listening to them.

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My suggested slogan for the Libertarian Party - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 11:43:01

The Republicans and Democrats should have the same slogan(nm) - El-ahrairah BAMA - 1/8 12:05:59

You drew out all the imbeciles with that one (nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 1/8 12:03:44

^^^^ left leaning authoritarian (nm) - ashtray UF - 1/8 12:07:39

I've asked you twice what they should do. So, WHAT IS IT? - GA Tiger MU - 1/8 11:59:18

4Tigs is far more liberal than he gives himself credit for (nm) - ashtray UF - 1/8 12:06:35

taking time out from looking for election fraud GAT? - JG MU

- 1/8 12:03:09

Finally.. a Democrat representative shows up.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 1/8 12:04:37

I would work to come up with a convincing message to - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 12:02:49

why do you keep talking about the Libertarian Party - pickle MU

- 1/8 12:09:26

Who complains that no one really gets them? - kmawv8 MU - 1/8 12:04:56

As if, only the government can do "things". (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/8 11:53:58

Apperently - meatiger MU - 1/8 11:55:02

In our constitutional republic - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 11:54:44

That's the problem. Govt monopolies. - ummmm MU - 1/8 11:57:14

more intellectual dishonesty - pickle MU

- 1/8 11:55:51

Rofl? Intellectual dishonesty is the core of your beliefs . - RHAYWORTH MU - 1/8 12:07:39

one giant straw man. well done, RHAY (nm) - pickle MU

- 1/8 12:10:01

you might want to sit this one out - ashtray UF - 1/8 12:08:17

and it happens with every single discussion he gets into - ashtray UF - 1/8 11:56:57

yep (nm) - pickle MU

- 1/8 11:57:40

spoken like a true socialist(nm) - meatiger MU - 1/8 11:55:34

How is that socialist? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 11:56:31

in a centrally planned socialist country - ashtray UF - 1/8 11:58:48

That is a problem when government tries to control all - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 12:01:31

you weren’t asked that (nm) - pickle MU

- 1/8 12:10:50

you mean like everything they do now (nm) - ashtray UF - 1/8 12:02:57

They are absolutely involved in way too much - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 12:03:58

Again, you weren't asked. And the comment that was made - kmawv8 MU - 1/8 12:07:19

yet...government keeps taking and keeping that authority(nm) - meatiger MU - 1/8 12:05:26

And that is not good - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 12:07:06

So the difference in Libertarians and yourself is voting. - kmawv8 MU - 1/8 12:09:30

Well, we have a system in the United States - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 12:11:22

correct, socialism doesn't work - ashtray UF - 1/8 12:19:21

again, you are reframing the discussion - pickle MU

- 1/8 12:13:56

And if you play the system and things continue to get worse - kmawv8 MU - 1/8 12:12:56

he doesn’t want to understand - pickle MU

- 1/8 12:14:42

Back to my point - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 12:14:34

Who's *****ing about nothing getting done? - kmawv8 MU - 1/8 12:16:58

Straw man (nm) - pickle MU

- 1/8 12:15:00

which wing of the establishment party wants to do that? (nm) - ashtray UF - 1/8 12:09:13

so why aren't you clamoring to go back to those things only? - ashtray UF - 1/8 12:05:16

I have advocated going back to many of those things - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 12:08:17

why do you ignore the argument & basis of non participation? - pickle MU

- 1/8 12:12:52

So you vote and complain about things heading south - kmawv8 MU - 1/8 12:10:34

How is that working out for you?(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 1/8 12:09:53

Well, in my state during COVID times - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 12:12:03

So record government spending and a state that - kmawv8 MU - 1/8 12:14:24

Not it all areas - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 12:17:05

So you're saying that in a limited area, they guy you voted - kmawv8 MU - 1/8 12:23:25

I say 40% of something is often if not always better than - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 12:24:38

when? (nm) - ashtray UF - 1/8 12:09:25

Plenty of times - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 12:13:53

only the ones you disagree with - ashtray UF - 1/8 12:17:31

That is not what you asked - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 12:18:45

it's exactly what I asked - ashtray UF - 1/8 12:20:29

I said I advocated for going back on many, not all, of - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 12:25:46

why not all? - ashtray UF - 1/8 12:26:33

Authorized by whom? - meatiger MU - 1/8 12:02:21

The United States Constitution(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 12:03:13

where is drug control in the - meatiger MU - 1/8 12:04:40

Where did I say everything they are doing now is their - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 12:09:15

you think they have stuck to the Constitution? (nm) - ashtray UF - 1/8 12:04:26

When have I ever said or implied that? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 12:19:30

RE: When have I ever said or implied that? - ashtray UF - 1/8 12:20:58

I said that is what authorized what government can and - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 12:26:41

yet you keep electing politicians that do more (nm) - ashtray UF - 1/8 12:27:39

you literally said for stuff to get done - meatiger MU - 1/8 11:57:26

No, I was asked if only the government can do "things" - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 11:58:48

you weren’t asked (nm) - pickle MU

- 1/8 11:59:44

You want others to answer your questions in a way that - kmawv8 MU - 1/8 11:57:16

only because your party made it that way (nm) - ashtray UF - 1/8 11:55:34

No, the framers of our Constitution made it that way - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 11:57:26

this isn’t the topic - pickle MU

- 1/8 11:58:45

more collectivist thinking - ashtray UF - 1/8 11:46:46

It's really strange to solidify your political views based - kmawv8 MU - 1/8 11:46:07

That isn't the issue - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 11:49:57

straw man (nm) - pickle MU

- 1/8 11:54:08

EVERYONE believes their views are better - kmawv8 MU - 1/8 11:53:52

nailed it. (nm) - DC Jayhawk KU - 1/8 12:44:14

who has ever suggested that nothing gets done?(nm) - meatiger MU - 1/8 11:50:38

Oh yeah, I forgot - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 11:51:36

another straw man (nm) - pickle MU

- 1/8 11:54:30

Do we NEED government - meatiger MU - 1/8 11:52:24

In a constitutional republic - yes(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 11:53:00

You're funny though. You seem relatively smart, but not - Newcatbirdseat MU - 1/8 11:56:01

I don't believe there is any magic formula - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 11:59:52

So you're saying you don't do anything either - kmawv8 MU - 1/8 12:03:15

again, you are trying to change the topic - pickle MU

- 1/8 12:01:05

answer the question asked - pickle MU

- 1/8 11:55:02

you just might turn him muslim - meatiger MU - 1/8 11:48:40

straw man - pickle MU

- 1/8 11:46:00

in his mind - meatiger MU - 1/8 11:48:03

i know, but it’s a straw man (nm) - pickle MU

- 1/8 11:53:36

he works so hard at voting - ashtray UF - 1/8 11:48:46

Again.. libertarians are not a collective represented by - TigerMatt STL - 1/8 11:45:21

Correct - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/8 11:46:33

again, you just cannot help yourself - ashtray UF - 1/8 11:47:55

How dare a group of people - meatiger MU - 1/8 11:47:43

RE: My suggested slogan for the Libertarian Party - TigerFan92 STL - 1/8 11:45:11

it is not about people doing nothing - meatiger MU - 1/8 11:44:02

meat - SwampTiger MU - 1/8 11:48:26

to be a troll - meatiger MU - 1/8 11:51:22

smug troll - pickle MU

- 1/8 11:45:23