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Posted on: July 26, 2020 at 19:24:59 CT

SparkyStalcup MU

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markets are the basis for capitalism. One can argue points in the middle, and some other extraneous things, but if BLM doesn't believe in complete government control of the means of production, then they are somewhere in between Marxism and capitalism. Methinks some people are calling them Marxist in order to attempt to discredit them basically as an ad hominem attack.

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I watched some golf - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/26 17:24:33

I enjoy golf. Am glad baseball is playing though too. - reedus23 MU - 7/26 19:08:09

i'm losing my interest in sports over time - it's definitely - 90Tiger STL - 7/26 17:47:02

It is what you make of it. nm - reedus23 MU - 7/26 19:10:46

yes, and that's what I make of it (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 7/26 19:31:24

I mean it when I suggest that you just stop watching then. - reedus23 MU - 7/26 19:41:44

try reading it this time - 90Tiger STL - 7/26 20:02:34

I read it. Just not sure why you watch. nm - reedus23 MU - 7/26 20:20:41

because I've yet to lose all interest (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 7/26 20:49:20

Agreed. I'm close to writing off the Blues & Cards - zounami MU - 7/26 18:16:18

You should then. Why would you devote time to something - reedus23 MU - 7/26 19:09:00

it's a question of how much politicization fans can tolerate - zounami MU - 7/26 19:30:37

I hear ya. The whole forcing players to stand for the - reedus23 MU - 7/26 19:51:11

The flag and national anthem have been politicized... - zounami MU - 7/26 20:01:51

Probably because they find that there are other - reedus23 MU - 7/26 20:25:28

I would be fine with not playing the anthem at sporting - zounami MU - 7/26 20:35:24

Well, for whatever it's worth, I hope all the bull**** - reedus23 MU - 7/26 20:42:15

it probably won't (nm) - zounami MU - 7/26 21:04:54

Then quit making it about anything else but sports - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/26 18:11:04

I don't make it about anything, I consume what is presented - 90Tiger STL - 7/26 19:32:07

I didn’t start wearing t-shirts with controversial - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/26 18:25:18

I would encourage you to not let political, social or - reedus23 MU - 7/26 19:13:40

What's controversial about "Black Lives Matter"? Are - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/26 18:41:28

lol, keep pretending you think that's what BLM is - 90Tiger STL - 7/26 19:33:01

BLM is a Marxist founded organization that speaks out - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/26 18:43:22

It's your mischaracterization of their values. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/26 18:44:12

It’s their characterization - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/26 18:46:59

No, it's yours...and you have yet to justify it. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/26 18:47:40

Their founder has admitted it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/26 18:49:17

Two of the co-founders have "Marxist training". However, - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/26 18:52:54

Critical Race Theory has strong ties to Marxism. - ummmm MU - 7/26 19:06:14

Answer the question. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/26 19:09:14

There is more to Marxism than that what you asked about. - ummmm MU - 7/26 19:14:30

What I asked is the basis for Marxism, as belief in free - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/26 19:24:59

You clearly don't understand Marxism, or, more likely, are - 90Tiger STL - 7/26 19:34:44

Which is odd since he’s a socialist (nm) - pickle MU

- 7/26 19:51:52

it's paramount he protect the facade until power is - 90Tiger STL - 7/26 20:50:11

As an aside, one thing I have noticed about you is that - ummmm MU - 7/26 19:34:23

ouch (nm) - pickle MU

- 7/26 19:50:04

Total "government" ownership of the means of production - ummmm MU - 7/26 19:31:09

No question about that - meatiger MU - 7/26 19:08:41

Who is correct about what is going on? The CRT people? - ummmm MU - 7/26 19:11:36

CRT?(nm) - meatiger MU - 7/26 19:12:52

Critical Race Theory. (nm) - ummmm MU - 7/26 19:14:51

RE: CRT?(nm) - pickle MU

- 7/26 19:14:37

I have never claimed that(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/26 18:54:47

The first part of my response you basically said two - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/26 18:57:06

I said they were a Marxist organization - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/26 18:58:45

You are full of shyte, and not providing evidence. You - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/26 19:01:14

They’re Marxist. It’s indisputable. - pickle MU

- 7/26 19:20:10

Because Matt Gaetz and Mark Levin say so? Two of three - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/26 19:28:59

Lol what? (nm) - pickle MU

- 7/26 19:44:29

When the game is going on - meatiger MU - 7/26 18:36:07

So tell me the center right political causes - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/26 18:41:34

Everything military and country worship - meatiger MU - 7/26 18:44:50

Many liberals have proudly served in our military - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/26 18:46:18

All was fine when many on the right were hating Kaepernick - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/26 18:49:43

Where did I ever say they couldn’t do what they want? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/26 18:51:42

I said many on the right...I did not mention you. A quick - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/26 18:54:51

Why do you ask me to defend positions you admit others - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/26 18:56:09

No, you said BLM was marxist. You refuse to provide - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/26 18:58:26

The military of the last 25 years - meatiger MU - 7/26 18:49:01

You are such a cliche - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/26 18:50:38

Nice counterpoint - meatiger MU - 7/26 18:52:31

You are the master of usual stuff - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/26 18:54:10

RE: You are the master of usual stuff - meatiger MU - 7/26 19:06:15

The problem is equating BLM with the KKK. That is the - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/26 18:43:38

I find Marxism every bit as abhorrent as the - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/26 18:45:12

Fine, but what does that have to do with BLM? When have - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/26 18:47:09

They are a Marxist organization - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/26 18:48:35

You have yet to show that they are Marxist. I don't believe - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/26 18:59:48

I would say they are more social marxists - meatiger MU - 7/26 19:11:55

They are certainly trying to change the narrative, but sorry - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/26 19:31:58

players like Adam BLM Wainwright are making that - zounami MU - 7/26 18:18:03

Why? Did his pitching start to go downhill? Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/26 18:18:49

he's playing an active role in politicizing the sport, which - zounami MU - 7/26 18:25:07

He's voicing his 1st amendment rights? How has that - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/26 18:38:49

if Target puts up BLM propaganda throughout its stores - zounami MU - 7/26 19:25:45

I am sure if you go into any mass superstore - meatiger MU - 7/26 20:20:46

They actually may see a net gain in customers, which I - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/26 19:44:38

No, they would lose customers in droves. - zounami MU - 7/26 19:49:03

If it bothers you this much, you really should just stop - reedus23 MU - 7/26 19:32:31

That's the point. It's a question of how much politicization - zounami MU - 7/26 19:47:25

What's weird is...I haven't missed a Cards game yet. - reedus23 MU - 7/26 20:29:26

It's the pussification of sports. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 7/26 18:16:08

Then quit putting it in there. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/26 18:19:20

Surprised you're not watching NASCAR rooting for - Newcatbirdseat MU - 7/26 17:27:33

kind of silly (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 7/26 17:47:17

He already did, when he went the Jussie Smollett route - zounami MU - 7/26 17:34:53

Bubba can do that all on his own(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 7/26 17:33:34

NASCAR never really appealed to me - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/26 17:31:43

Me either, and I hope the "sport" goes bankrupt. (nm) - zounami MU - 7/26 17:35:44

Bubba has already gone down in a fiery wreck - he - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 7/26 17:30:52

Understatement(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 7/26 17:32:54

Likely so truth in that(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/26 17:32:00