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Abstain from Beans

Posted on: June 30, 2020 at 09:30:24 CT
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by Robert LeFevre

In ancient Athens, those who admired the Stoic philosophy of individualism took as their motto: "Abstain from Beans." The phrase had a precise reference. It meant: don't vote. Balloting in Athens occurred by dropping various colored beans into a receptacle.

To vote is to express a preference. There is nothing implicitly evil in choosing. All of us in the ordinary course of our daily lives vote for or against dozens of products and services. When we vote for (buy) any good or service, it follows that by salutary neglect we vote against the goods or services we do not choose to buy. The great merit of market place choosing is that no one is bound by any other person's selection. I may choose Brand X. But this cannot prevent you from choosing Brand Y.

When we place voting into the framework of politics, however, a major change occurs. When we express a preference politically, we do so precisely because we intend to bind others to our will. Political voting is the legal method we have adopted and extolled for obtaining monopolies of power. Political voting is nothing more than the assumption that might makes right. There is a presumption that any decision wanted by the majority of those expressing a preference must be desirable, and the inference even goes so far as to presume that anyone who differs from a majority view is wrong or possibly immoral.

But history shows repeatedly the madness of crowds and the irrationality of majorities. The only conceivable merit relating to majority rule lies in the fact that if we obtain monopoly decisions by this process, we will coerce fewer persons than if we permit the minority to coerce the majority. But implicit in all political voting is the necessity to coerce some so that all are controlled. The direction taken by the control is academic. Control as a monopoly in the hands of the state is basic.

In times such as these, it is incumbent upon free men to reexamine their most cherished, long-established beliefs. There is only one truly moral position for an honest person to take. He must refrain from coercing his fellows. This means that he should refuse to participate in the process by means of which some men obtain power over others. If you value your right to life, liberty, and property, then clearly there is every reason to refrain from participating in a process that is calculated to remove the life, liberty, or property from any other person. Voting is the method for obtaining legal power to coerce others.
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Non-participation is the only moral choice (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 6/30 09:22:24
     I'd agree, if you would then quit whining. - RHAYWORTH MU - 6/30 10:34:33
          what an odd thing for a libertarian to say - pickle MU - 6/30 10:36:43
               He's so very confused. He just likes to call himself a - hefeweizen MU - 6/30 10:40:43
     I'm looking forward to abstaining. #nobeans(nm) - dangertim MU - 6/30 09:33:39
          Does that make you morally superior? - Mizzou Lou KC - 6/30 10:23:40
               I asked dangertim, not you, because i believe he - Mizzou Lou KC - 6/30 10:32:11
                    poor Lou (nm) - pickle MU - 6/30 10:33:03
                         Lol! This was your big chance, and you blew it - Mizzou Lou KC - 6/30 10:42:58
                              you think far too highly of yourself (nm) - pickle MU - 6/30 10:45:23
                                   Only because of the present company. A flatworm couldn't - Mizzou Lou KC - 6/30 11:05:37
               it’s a moral argument - pickle MU - 6/30 10:26:47
     Frankly, i think a point can be made for non - hokie VT - 6/30 09:31:47
          And with this, you nailed it(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/30 09:34:20
               I also dont understand why if non participation - tman MU - 6/30 09:39:09
                    Non-participation is an option - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/30 09:43:30
                         It's not really that hard to understand. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 6/30 09:48:15
                              Please define how you know who will be a corrupt flunkie - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/30 09:52:43
                                   It's immoral to cast a vote for someone that - hokie VT - 6/30 10:00:59
                                        that’s a straw man (nm) - pickle MU - 6/30 10:04:50
                                        I am all about passion - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/30 10:02:46
                                             You're a religion + gov't guy. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 6/30 10:06:30
                                                  What does that have to do with the comment in the OP - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/30 10:21:10
                                                  Libs, declare victory and quit. That makes them feel better - hokie VT - 6/30 10:08:46
                                   they all are. the nature of gvmt has been explained to you - pickle MU - 6/30 09:55:39
                                        Government has no "nature". Humans have a "nature" - Mizzou Lou KC - 6/30 10:06:18
                                             You nailed that - well done(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/30 10:21:45
                                             gvmts are the same everywhere, in all times and place - pickle MU - 6/30 10:13:23
                                             Excellent post. nm - hokie VT - 6/30 10:09:27
                         Agree(nm) - tman MU - 6/30 09:45:13
                    it isn’t limited to voting (nm) - pickle MU - 6/30 09:41:30
                         What else do you not participate in, if you are willing - tman MU - 6/30 09:43:58
                              working for gvmt - pickle MU - 6/30 09:46:20
                                   So you participate fully and accept the infringements - tman MU - 6/30 10:25:50
                                        incorrect. that’s not participation (nm) - pickle MU - 6/30 10:28:40
                                             Yes it is. You may call it involuntary participation - tman MU - 6/30 11:51:54
                                                  no, that’s not participation - pickle MU - 6/30 11:57:18
                                                       If you refused to get a drivers license or carry insurance - tman MU - 6/30 13:08:45
                              Well, if voting is immoral participating in those must be - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/30 09:45:51
                                   the moral argument has been given and supported by logic - pickle MU - 6/30 09:47:45
               he didn’t. it’s his usual ignorance (nm) - pickle MU - 6/30 09:35:25
          using force against others at gunpoint is immoral (nm) - pickle MU - 6/30 09:33:59
               Care to explain why you routinely support those who do that? - RHAYWORTH MU - 6/30 09:49:41
                    i never do. perhaps you could give an example (nm) - pickle MU - 6/30 09:53:22
          how is forcing the will of the majority onto a minority - ashtray UF - 6/30 09:33:21
               Actually that would be a democracy - tman MU - 6/30 09:34:26
                    I believe that's the point(nm) - dangertim MU - 6/30 09:35:12
                         We are not a democracy. That is the point(nm) - tman MU - 6/30 09:39:49
                              good point(nm) - dangertim MU - 6/30 09:55:07
                    As my father said often when people praised democracy - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/30 09:35:07
                         Liberals think that anything that is not perfect must be - hokie VT - 6/30 09:43:38
                              With the exception of their ideas, such as welfare - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/30 09:44:48
                                   Their way is perfect. Because they are conceptual, and - hokie VT - 6/30 09:54:02
                                        both of you idiots supported the “stimulus” (nm) - pickle MU - 6/30 09:58:15
                    yep (nm) - ashtray UF - 6/30 09:34:57
     yes it is (nm) - pickle MU - 6/30 09:29:26
     That is preposterous - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/30 09:28:48
          Abstain from Beans - pickle MU - 6/30 09:30:24
     It also makes practical sense. (nm) - ummmm MU - 6/30 09:23:10




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