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I understand exactly where you're coming from.

Posted on: April 27, 2020 at 09:52:06 CT

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Regardless, theft is highly immoral, no matter how you want to spin it to make yourself feel better.

The moral/ethical position to take is that gov't, from the ground up (even the parts of it you personally like, because you think it benefits you in some way) is all force and a scam.

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Since some of you don't seem to understand this - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 09:46:37

I understand exactly where you're coming from. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/27 09:52:06

And you are welcome to that belief - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 09:52:52

1. Who is arguing it is the system under which we - 90Tiger STL - 4/27 10:00:29

As a nation of laws, status quo is the standard - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 10:03:31

you’re trying to change the argument (nm) - pickle MU

- 4/27 10:09:42

He has to - meatiger MU - 4/27 10:13:36

it's funny.. the very system your defending makes legal - 90Tiger STL - 4/27 10:07:33

Yes, it does, and that is a great shame - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 10:16:08

it is not immoral. society has made that determination - pickle MU

- 4/27 10:20:18

Pretty much blows your position that the law represents - 90Tiger STL - 4/27 10:18:43

It does reflect the morality of a nation - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 10:20:22

That is his only fallback - meatiger MU - 4/27 10:02:52

They are zealots(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 4/27 09:56:37

So you're a zealot if you argue against something you - 90Tiger STL - 4/27 10:01:32

No, you are a zealot if you look at the current law and - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 10:05:51

nobody is arguing that it isn't the current law. we are - 90Tiger STL - 4/27 10:09:59

Abortion is not criminal behavior in the US 90 - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 10:15:07

You should try to read: We use the word Criminal or Crime - 90Tiger STL - 4/27 10:17:55

What should be does not really help in dealing with - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 10:19:27

Exactly(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 4/27 10:06:33

RE: Exactly(nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/27 10:10:10

That's not what I said, try again(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 4/27 10:03:01

please, correct me and share what you really intended (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/27 10:08:57

They mean well - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 09:58:35

are you making yourself feel better? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/27 10:02:48

Expressing reality doesn't really make me feel - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 10:07:04

I mean with the condescending references which don't - 90Tiger STL - 4/27 10:08:31

It is pretty much fact - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 10:12:10

So, do you feel better? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/27 10:14:22

I feel bad for them - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 10:17:03

Don't feel bad for me, 4Tigs. That's about you, not me. - 90Tiger STL - 4/27 10:19:18

I can feel bad for you even if you don't feel bad for - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 10:21:26

You think Libertarians are happy for drug addicts?(nm) - meatiger MU - 4/27 10:24:59

this is your ignorance of rights - pickle MU

- 4/27 10:02:04

it absolutely is - pickle MU

- 4/27 09:54:54

it is a bailout, and you are stealing from one - pickle MU

- 4/27 09:50:03

You love stealing and criminals - RHAYWORTH MU - 4/27 10:03:06

no, RHAY. i support rights (nm) - pickle MU

- 4/27 10:08:01

When person A takes money from person C - meatiger MU - 4/27 09:49:38

The glaring problem with this principle when it comes to - ummmm MU - 4/27 09:48:34

And that is your take on what is occurring - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 09:52:10

^what a maroon - Panthera MU - 4/27 10:39:16

it is a perfect summary of exactly what is happening, whethe - 90Tiger STL - 4/27 10:02:29

So..if the legislature - meatiger MU - 4/27 09:55:11

No, it is the wrong decision - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 09:56:52

but is it government supporting the "moral fiber" of our - 90Tiger STL - 4/27 10:03:26

Our laws don't always support the moral fiber of our - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 10:04:12

It is when you defended your position on age of - 90Tiger STL - 4/27 10:05:12

Show me one place I defended a position on any - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 10:08:46

If you didn't then you never stated what the law should be. - 90Tiger STL - 4/27 10:10:46

My argument was never about what I thought it should be - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 10:13:59

It is where the gray areas are - meatiger MU - 4/27 10:15:51

That is not what I asked - so you are now blaming me - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 10:17:36

You play a game to fit your agenda - meatiger MU - 4/27 10:23:00

4Tigs, this is very simple. You've rejected my (our) positi - 90Tiger STL - 4/27 10:15:46

I don't know what it should be, but I can sure as hell tell - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 10:18:34

Now you are all over the place - meatiger MU - 4/27 09:57:22

Oh, I will - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 09:59:06

legality is immaterial (nm) - pickle MU

- 4/27 09:54:05

It is exactly what is happening - meatiger MU - 4/27 09:54:00

It could not be further from the truth - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 09:55:19

your seeing in this thread your lack of principles. you sup - 90Tiger STL - 4/27 10:04:48

it is exactly the same (nm) - pickle MU

- 4/27 10:00:01

It is exactly the same - meatiger MU - 4/27 09:56:25

It was government action that forced the actions - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 09:57:34

Pension mismanagement - meatiger MU - 4/27 09:59:50

Shutting down a business by fiat is nowhere near the same - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 10:01:36

Public pensions, 4Tigs. Gvmt mismanaging, stealing from - 90Tiger STL - 4/27 10:05:56

No, not anymore than private companies who do the same - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 10:22:21

I am talking about public pensions(nm) - meatiger MU - 4/27 10:02:23

Doesn't matter - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 10:04:55

It is gvmt fiat deciding to rob the pensions, 4Tigs. It's - 90Tiger STL - 4/27 10:06:27

RE: It is gvmt fiat deciding to rob the pensions, 4Tigs. It's - meatiger MU - 4/27 10:11:43

Legality is irrelevant to my point. (nm) - ummmm MU - 4/27 09:53:26

Not in our society ummmm - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 09:56:19

this is about principle, philosophy, and reality - pickle MU

- 4/27 09:59:15