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Religion and Faith are two different things. The Holy

Posted on: April 4, 2020 at 20:31:22 CT
jonesin
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Roman Empire was created by men. Lutherans and Methodists are constructs of men. Sunni and Shiite are from men.

If faith in the Father, and of Christ, is the construct of men, then it was the greatest feat of imagination ever.

The old testament is full of prophesy. Of the Christ. Of the kingdoms to come (Babylon, Persia, Macedonia, Rome, Holy Roman Empire). Many things that have come to pass, and some that are still to come. Christ told the disciples what things to look for prior to His return. We are witness to some of them now.
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The Ten Commandments - Tiger 69 MU - 4/4 18:26:37
     Ummm nobody can keep any of them. That is the point - TigerFan92 MU - 4/4 20:57:15
     Thou shalt not be a pussy. Start heeding that one. - Emoji Man MSU - 4/4 19:31:19
     And how would that be any different - MIZ45 MU - 4/4 18:52:37
     The purpose of the law is not to show us what to do - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/4 18:38:34
          False. It is not singular in its purpose. - MizzouTigerz MU - 4/4 20:03:47
               you just posted instructions for the Israelites. - dangertim MU - 4/4 20:05:34
                    Ceremonial Law and Moral Law - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/4 20:12:05
                         what's the distinction between the two? where does Jesus, - dangertim MU - 4/4 21:00:23
                    1 Thessalonians 4 - MizzouTigerz MU - 4/4 20:09:57
                         so.....Labradoodle are against God's Moral law?(nm) - dangertim MU - 4/4 20:59:18
          speak for yourself (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/4 19:18:18
          lol (nm) - pickle MU - 4/4 18:51:27
               I'd expect as much from you. LOL. - Deputy Dawg MU - 4/4 19:14:09
                    History would show that is the one response - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/4 19:17:38
     Hopefully Thou Shalt Not Spend. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/4 18:36:44
          too late (nm) - ashtray UF - 4/4 19:04:08
     also, if you really understood the purpose of the law, - dangertim MU - 4/4 18:36:09
     He’s a jerk, but in all fairness I’m not sure the others - tiger4real MU - 4/4 18:36:07
     How many commandments have you broken? - 615Tiger STL - 4/4 18:35:52
          Jesus - ashtray UF - 4/4 19:05:25
          Have to say - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/4 18:50:50
     OK. Have yourself crucified and come back to life - Nohawks KC - 4/4 18:30:42
          The lord jehovah has given unto you these fifteen - pickle MU - 4/4 18:33:57
               LOL(nm) - cnk ATL - 4/4 19:27:27
               Are you saying that the Creator who endowed you with - jonesin - 4/4 18:37:09
                    are you saying i’m endowed? (nm) - pickle MU - 4/4 18:40:02
                         Like a cornichon. - Emoji Man MSU - 4/4 19:36:28
                         Im sayin yer a weirdo and a pervert - Uncle Fester USMC - 4/4 18:51:16
                         You claim your rights were endowed to you by the Creator. - jonesin - 4/4 18:42:39
                              you’re confusing me for the declaration of independence (nm) - pickle MU - 4/4 18:52:47
                                   If you are born with inalienable rights, they have to come - jonesin - 4/4 19:00:34
                                        natural rights come from the "nature" of man; some - 90Tiger STL - 4/4 19:38:08
                                             So...you're saying rights come from men? - jonesin - 4/4 19:42:19
                                                  They believe man came from some random chance - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/4 19:47:20
                                                       Don't speak for me, 4Tigs. Fish and amoeba "just happened" - 90Tiger STL - 4/4 19:51:05
                                                            What is arrogant is the notion that men are benevolent. That - jonesin - 4/4 20:07:44
                                                                 "and the beasts in the fields and the waters" - do you think - 90Tiger STL - 4/4 20:20:18
                                                                      No. I believe this ball is much older than that. The - jonesin - 4/4 20:35:58
                                                                 so, it's NOT a leap to say a sky spirit created everythign - 90Tiger STL - 4/4 20:15:25
                                                                 who said men are benevolent? Check your premise (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/4 20:14:19
                                                  think of it as "observed by man to be in our nature and - 90Tiger STL - 4/4 19:45:01
                                                  No, lol, the concept or idea of them is a man-made construct - 90Tiger STL - 4/4 19:44:18
                                                       You talk in circles. Rights ARE a construct of man. Period. - jonesin - 4/4 19:49:10
                                                            But you think religion isn't a man-made construct? or that - 90Tiger STL - 4/4 19:54:58
                                                                 Religion and Faith are two different things. The Holy - jonesin - 4/4 20:31:22
                                                                      lol, ok man (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/4 20:37:32
                                                                           Ok, man. Best wishes. - jonesin - 4/4 20:44:15
                                                            lol, the articulation and identification that all men natura - 90Tiger STL - 4/4 19:52:35
                                                                 Lol, you put WAY too much faith(there's that word) in man. - jonesin - 4/4 19:59:47
                                                                      there are other primates and animals which exhibit - 90Tiger STL - 4/4 20:08:01
                                                                           When I want advice from the Huff post or Nat. Geo, i'll - jonesin - 4/4 20:42:57
                                                                                lol, like those sources matter. "only a benevolent creator" - 90Tiger STL - 4/4 20:49:07
                                                                                     His children will live eternally. It requires faith though. - jonesin - 4/4 20:59:14
                                                                                          thought you called my "i don't know" view as a big leap - 90Tiger STL - 4/4 21:55:17
                                                                                     And let me guess, you think I don't have empathy now? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/4 20:49:28
                                                                      brains don't impart empathy? where do you think it comes f - 90Tiger STL - 4/4 20:05:14
                                        cool, so I'll come by and take your property - ashtray UF - 4/4 19:07:32
                                             You have that chance. And we will struggle. - jonesin - 4/4 19:13:14
                                                  why? (nm) - ashtray UF - 4/4 19:13:45
                                                       That's a stupid question. Why would you ask that? - jonesin - 4/4 19:18:21
                                                            why would you fight me for it? (nm) - ashtray UF - 4/4 19:54:37
                                             RE: cool, so I'll come by and take your property - scan MU - 4/4 19:09:13
                                                  cool, I might need it when I find - ashtray UF - 4/4 19:11:28
                                        they don’t have to come from any authority - pickle MU - 4/4 19:05:52
                                             Human nature is exactly what i'm talking about. And - jonesin - 4/4 19:16:19
                                                  i didn’t mention mises (nm) - pickle MU - 4/4 19:17:57
                                                       Your argument holds no water. Without higher authority we - jonesin - 4/4 19:24:51
                                                            "higher authority"? is man a "higher authority" to animals, - 90Tiger STL - 4/4 19:47:12
                                                                 Then...Our large brains endow rights to one another? - jonesin - 4/4 19:53:32
                                                                      lol, no, man doesn't "give" nor "endow" the rights. Man - 90Tiger STL - 4/4 19:57:04
                                                                           Nope. Men are greedy, lustful, possessive. It is our nature - jonesin - 4/4 20:47:39
                                                                                nice creation by your god in his image (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/4 20:52:10
                                                                                     Thus the Christ was needed. It is faith in His grace that - jonesin - 4/4 21:05:54
                                                                                          how convenient for the story. god creates a ****ty entity - 90Tiger STL - 4/4 23:49:38
                                                                                ok? You must live in a different subdivision than me. Who - 90Tiger STL - 4/4 20:50:23
                                                                                     I have empathy and a conscience. I got that from the - jonesin - 4/4 21:01:26
                                                                                          no, your creator made you selfish, dominating, etc. per your - 90Tiger STL - 4/5 00:14:46
                    don't let your ignorance get in the way of posting(nm) - dangertim MU - 4/4 18:38:15
                         Wholly Moses. I wasn't addressing you, timmy - jonesin - 4/4 18:39:17
                              he was quoting a movie line, yet you still felt - dangertim MU - 4/4 18:40:28
                                   You're sharp, tim. - jonesin - 4/4 18:43:22
                                        I see. Apparently I stumbled into your little ****fight. - dangertim MU - 4/4 18:47:03
               my man(nm) - dangertim MU - 4/4 18:34:55
     is he an Old Covenant Isrealite?(nm) - dangertim MU - 4/4 18:29:49
     i don’t personally know him - pickle MU - 4/4 18:28:23




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