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Posted on: January 3, 2020 at 11:28:54 CT
90Tiger STL
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The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States.”

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So, yes, the federal government does have a responsibility to “provide for the common defense,” but it can only do so within the scope of the powers delegated. The federal government can declare war, support armies, provide a navy, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and call out the militia under certain conditions. But there is nothing even hinting at a power to create a Department of Homeland security, or to direct the NSA to spy on Americans, much less to build a wall, or grope me at the airport.

For meatiger: Yes, I know that border walls or any immigration prevention by the federal gvmt is unconstitutional. So is handing out healthcare and cash to folks who stumble in.
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POTD, many here should read and reflect upon - 90Tiger STL - 1/3 11:21:54
     If highly inaccurate - Spanky KU - 1/3 11:43:45
          that’s nice - pickle MU - 1/3 11:50:00
          he didn't say it started with Wilson (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 1/3 11:48:32
               He kinda did..... - Spanky KU - 1/3 12:16:29
                    no - pickle MU - 1/3 13:13:24
     so, what does justify intervention?(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 1/3 11:24:40
          but the point of that post, and the value, is the point - 90Tiger STL - 1/3 11:31:10
          From the Constitution: - 90Tiger STL - 1/3 11:28:54
               in short, intervention is justified when the US is attacked - 90Tiger STL - 1/3 11:29:27
                    so we have to wait to be hit to hit back? - blake1771 MU - 1/3 11:56:09
                         That logic allows for constant war - ashtray UF - 1/3 12:00:46
                              i agree that we have made enemies through meddling but - blake1771 MU - 1/3 12:06:37
                                   Yes we have, because "preemptive strikes" - ashtray UF - 1/3 12:34:56
                                   So you have three choices - meatiger MU - 1/3 12:17:23
                                   When has the US ever been attacked unprovoked - pickle MU - 1/3 12:11:27
                         why would the US be attacked? (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3 11:57:14
                    so the US is simply a geographic location on a map - tigerinhogtown STL - 1/3 11:49:41
                         Yes, with imaginary lines we call borders - ashtray UF - 1/3 11:54:14
                         What borders? - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/3 11:50:35
          Nothing. But also, if the Constitution means anything to - ummmm MU - 1/3 11:28:10
          pre-emptive striking - meatiger MU - 1/3 11:27:27
               lol wut? - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/3 11:31:01
                    you should have a strong set of assets to defend yourself - meatiger MU - 1/3 11:46:30
                    Our embassy was already attacked. - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/3 11:32:57
                         Was the embassy due to protesting that got out of hand? - Freeglider USA - 1/3 11:43:33
                              Or a precursor to a more detailed and planned organized - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/3 11:47:37
                         Oh lord. The war drums beat on. (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/3 11:35:19
                              It is a self fulfilling prophecy - meatiger MU - 1/3 11:48:18
                              you know he’s incapable of thought (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3 11:36:52
                                   So we can't defend our embassy?(nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/3 11:38:41
                                        Shouldn't have to - ashtray UF - 1/3 11:52:17
                         that’s incorrect. Embassies are not the same as foreign soil - pickle MU - 1/3 11:35:17
                         And that dude orchestrated the deaths of hundreds - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/3 11:34:15
                              where were these US troops? (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3 11:37:18
                                   Not in Iran(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/3 11:38:47
                                        where were they? (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3 11:39:17
                                             Not in Iran, damn b*tch can't you read?(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/3 11:39:35
                                                  Not in America, either (nm) - ashtray UF - 1/3 11:53:12
                                                  i asked where they were, not where they were not (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3 11:42:11
                              Yeah, that's how war works - ashtray UF - 1/3 11:36:39
          by a government? nothing (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3 11:26:08
               Then who can intervene? Individuals? (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/3 11:35:05




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