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it isn't' a legit request

Posted on: December 2, 2019 at 15:48:00 CT

ashtray UF

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especially when it's tied to aid money that Trump knows they desperately need

That would be a legit request for the DOJ, though. Still, nobody can tell me why he didn't go to the DOJ with it, instead of Ukraine. What that tells me is that he didn't care about the corruption in Ukraine other than getting it into the media so he could smear his campaign opponent with it. Maybe you think that's noble, but it feels awfully swampy to me.

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BTW, Zelinsky again said he felt no "Quid Pro Quo" - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 12/2 14:42:40

yeah, well he lied - JG A - 12/2 19:56:07

So we cleared Trump of verbally quid pro quoing..... - JayRoy KC - 12/2 16:38:13

As long as his statements stay consistent, then no one will - Freeglider USA - 12/2 15:18:35

that isn’t what he said - Ace AU - 12/2 14:53:05

What he said: “I did not speak with US President Trump in - Spanky KU - 12/2 15:07:15

nobody is making a blackmail accusation - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:10:31

lfmao, ashtray (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/2 15:51:13

No now they say it was bribery, although they can't define - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 12/2 15:23:10

I defined it for you multiple times (nm) - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:23:52

lol literally not once(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 12/2 15:27:10

multiple times (nm) - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:31:12

Just because you wish it does not make it so. (nm) - Logan BAMA - 12/2 16:21:15

You do this for me - MrBlueSky MU - 12/2 15:23:45

That's not what he said though - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 12/2 15:26:53

How about people who were on the call? (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 12/2 15:29:25

They all admitted they heard nothing resembling bribery - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 12/2 15:33:54

Dems are using the terms 'blackmail' and 'extortion' - Spanky KU - 12/2 15:18:00

Link to people using the terms blackmail? - MrBlueSky MU - 12/2 15:23:04

Like Joe Biden? - Spanky KU - 12/2 15:32:32

lol, "I call it blackmail." - MrBlueSky MU - 12/2 15:33:25

The guy who Trump is accused of trying to harm called it - Spanky KU - 12/2 16:00:36

That is you making a conclusory statement - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 12/2 15:28:12

Sondland testified under oath - MrBlueSky MU - 12/2 15:31:31

please quote the testimony - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 12/2 15:34:50

RE: please quote the testimony - MrBlueSky MU - 12/2 15:37:06

Thank you, now quote the pertinent parts - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 12/2 15:39:37

and never said it was bribery - Spanky KU - 12/2 15:34:30

If I flash a wallet full of $100s at a cop who has pulled me - MrBlueSky MU - 12/2 15:37:53

The only person who flashed money was Biden - Spanky KU - 12/2 16:14:20

Do you think all quid pro quos = bribery? (nm) - Sal MU

- 12/2 15:41:12

you don't have to say "Here, let me offer you this bribe." - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:35:42

What was the bribe? (nm) - Sal MU

- 12/2 15:33:41

RE: What was the bribe? (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 12/2 15:35:02

RE: What was the bribe? (nm) - Sal MU

- 12/2 15:36:36

aid money for an investigation into a political opponent (nm) - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:34:21

You should read past his morning testimony - Sal MU

- 12/2 15:36:04

why would he assume something so specific? - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:38:10

You'd have to ask him (nm) - Sal MU

- 12/2 15:40:16

no need to - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:42:34

That can't be assumed - Sal MU

- 12/2 15:44:13

it isn't' a legit request - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:48:00

which Drumpf never asked for(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 12/2 15:35:16

I think that's what's to be determined in the Senate trial - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:37:16

How was it clearly bribery - Sal MU

- 12/2 15:26:40

unless Sondland was lying to the State Dept employees - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:30:35

I think it's bribery - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:22:58

Blackmail is a release of information in an exchange. I - Freeglider USA - 12/2 15:38:59

the founding fathers referred to it as bribery - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:40:08

I was referring to them separately. There are questions of - Freeglider USA - 12/2 15:43:25

The dream is collapsing DOC - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 12/2 14:59:01

better question - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:02:59

So, what did he say? (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 12/2 14:56:35

RE: So, what did he say? (nm) - Ace AU - 12/2 14:59:28

Why the omission of what the Time article said? - Spanky KU - 12/2 15:10:47

Obviously lying----Schiff told me so - mu7176grad MU - 12/2 14:51:57

A brand new president of Ukraine - MrBlueSky MU - 12/2 14:44:48

Instead, you believe the socialists who had impeachment - hokie VT - 12/2 15:33:53

In particular if the Caped Corruption Crusader is helping(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/2 14:58:50

Can you have a quid pro quo when one party - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 12/2 15:07:09

Quid Pro Quo isn't the law boy(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/2 15:12:36

lmao so why the f*ck have you and the dems been saying it is - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 12/2 15:14:09

No one has - raskolnikov MU - 12/2 15:16:23

are you saying Schiff or Crazy Nancy never said - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 12/2 15:21:59

You seem so very confused - raskolnikov MU - 12/2 15:36:39

tout de suite - Spanky KU - 12/2 17:46:47

you mean when one party doesn't admit to the "pro"? - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:07:50

lol how do you prove that? - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 12/2 15:13:20

other evidence (nm) - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:24:25

Was the last President in desperate need - Sal MU

- 12/2 14:48:29

FYI, it was the IMF that treatened him(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/2 14:59:29

So did Biden and Dem senators - Sal MU

- 12/2 15:00:20

OK then Sallie sounds like ya got 'em,(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/2 15:49:50

was that for dirt on Trump? - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:05:51

Biden's threat appears to be to protect his son's company - Sal MU

- 12/2 15:16:50

If he wanted to do that, he would insist they KEEP the guy - raskolnikov MU - 12/2 15:51:18

Why would he want to keep the guy - Sal MU

- 12/2 15:54:03

The guy wasn't doing dyck on corruptiont that is why - raskolnikov MU - 12/2 16:18:52

There were at least 3 open investigations - Sal MU

- 12/2 17:00:35

that sounds dirty - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:25:41

Whatabout Sal (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 12/2 14:50:27

so I guess you don't have an answer?(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 12/2 14:59:54

Otherwise known as #WAS - Ace AU - 12/2 14:54:10

So Biden and the Dem senators should be - Sal MU

- 12/2 14:52:29

Do you consider yourself non-partisan?(nm) - playhard NWMSU - 12/2 14:53:53

In regards to a crime being broken, yes - Sal MU

- 12/2 14:55:29

So you're big on prosecuting crime yet a big fan of trump - playhard NWMSU - 12/2 14:58:19

This would be you not arguing with facts (nm) - Sal MU

- 12/2 14:59:46

You present opinion as fact or you present debunked - playhard NWMSU - 12/2 15:03:18

What conspiracy theories are you referring to? (nm) - Sal MU

- 12/2 15:17:07

Are you still pushing Ukraine meddled in our election?(nm) - playhard NWMSU - 12/2 15:28:06

Well, that happened - Sal MU

- 12/2 15:29:02

The problem is - playhard NWMSU - 12/2 15:31:42

Yes it is, and links have been posted - Sal MU

- 12/2 15:34:24

No, it's not sal, you're repeating the same debunked alt - playhard NWMSU - 12/2 15:43:53

Nellie Ohr didn't testify under oath - Sal MU

- 12/2 15:45:44

looks pretty damning to me - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:52:30

No, he's just asking for facts/evidence - MIZ45 MU - 12/2 15:07:46

definitely - ashtray UF - 12/2 14:53:34

Jesus dude, you're a broken record. - MrBlueSky MU - 12/2 14:53:14

He's turned in to Ragnar, Hokie, etc, etc - playhard NWMSU - 12/2 14:56:11

You are one of the worst here - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 12/2 15:02:25

ok, thanks(nm) - playhard NWMSU - 12/2 15:04:26

Yet none of you can address my points - Sal MU

- 12/2 14:56:58

I have showed you countless times - MrBlueSky MU - 12/2 15:20:11

So Chalupa didn't work with Ukraine - Sal MU

- 12/2 15:25:37

Again - MrBlueSky MU - 12/2 15:26:28

It's Ukrainian officials specifically working with - Sal MU

- 12/2 15:28:06

So now we're back to - MrBlueSky MU - 12/2 15:33:01

Wait, so asking a country to investigate a campaign - Sal MU

- 12/2 15:34:57

Once again...Ukraine was ALREADY investigating Manafort(nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 12/2 15:39:29

And I've provided you evidence that their - Sal MU

- 12/2 15:42:44

hell yes, there is - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:44:15

The "emotion" card, another of Sal's greatest hits(nm) - playhard NWMSU - 12/2 14:59:01

You don't believe they did anything wrong lol - Sal MU

- 12/2 14:55:54

lmfao (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/2 14:54:09

probably even more so (nm) - ashtray UF - 12/2 14:50:19

lol (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 12/2 14:49:57

the funding was already delivered. Is there more coming - dangertim MU

- 12/2 14:47:21

The funding had not been delivered when he spoke - MrBlueSky MU - 12/2 14:49:02

the money was allocated by congress. - dangertim MU

- 12/2 14:56:00

And the POTUS has the ultimate say in dispersing - MrBlueSky MU - 12/2 15:22:46

of course there is (nm) - ashtray UF - 12/2 14:48:06

Doesn't matter what he felt boy(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/2 14:44:24

It 100% matters what he perceived - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 12/2 15:01:15

Nothing....I repeat....NOTHING will trump what rask - MIZ45 MU - 12/2 15:02:18

LOL! (nm) - MIZ45 MU - 12/2 14:54:13

of course it does (nm) - Sal MU

- 12/2 14:47:29

You're wrong (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 12/2 14:52:45

So if Zelensky came out and said he was pressured - Sal MU

- 12/2 14:53:30

Biden wasn't breaking the law, Trump was - raskolnikov MU - 12/2 15:00:26

I think it should be investigated - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:02:22

Go to town. Investigate the sht out of it and the IMF & NATO - raskolnikov MU - 12/2 15:13:37

are you sure about that? - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:27:04

My post stands(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/2 15:51:44

How do you know? - Sal MU

- 12/2 15:01:05

RE: How do you know? - raskolnikov MU - 12/2 15:15:01

That's not what Biden said (nm) - Sal MU

- 12/2 15:15:50

WHAT is not what Biden said ? Are still clinging to that - raskolnikov MU - 12/2 15:52:59

lol what do you think Biden said in that video? (nm) - Sal MU

- 12/2 16:10:53

You really are clinging to that? - raskolnikov MU - 12/2 16:29:19

lol ops (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/2 14:54:34

that would be political suicide for him - ashtray UF - 12/2 14:54:17

Not even remotely - raskolnikov MU - 12/2 14:50:35

not really - ashtray UF - 12/2 14:49:52

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