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Biden's threat appears to be to protect his son's company

Posted on: December 2, 2019 at 15:16:50 CT
Sal CMSU
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the Dem senators threatened aid specifically to push Ukraine to cooperate with Mueller's investigation into Trump. So one could make the argument that the latter was for dirt on Trump.
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BTW, Zelinsky again said he felt no "Quid Pro Quo" - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/2 14:42:40
     yeah, well he lied - JG A - 12/2 19:56:07
     So we cleared Trump of verbally quid pro quoing..... - JayRoy KC - 12/2 16:38:13
     As long as his statements stay consistent, then no one will - Freeglider USA - 12/2 15:18:35
     that isn’t what he said - Ace AU - 12/2 14:53:05
          What he said: “I did not speak with US President Trump in - Spanky KU - 12/2 15:07:15
               nobody is making a blackmail accusation - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:10:31
                    lfmao, ashtray (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/2 15:51:13
                    No now they say it was bribery, although they can't define - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/2 15:23:10
                         I defined it for you multiple times (nm) - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:23:52
                              lol literally not once(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/2 15:27:10
                                   multiple times (nm) - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:31:12
                                        Just because you wish it does not make it so. (nm) - Logan BAMA - 12/2 16:21:15
                         You do this for me - MrBlueSky MU - 12/2 15:23:45
                              That's not what he said though - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/2 15:26:53
                                   How about people who were on the call? (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 12/2 15:29:25
                                        They all admitted they heard nothing resembling bribery - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/2 15:33:54
                    Dems are using the terms 'blackmail' and 'extortion' - Spanky KU - 12/2 15:18:00
                         Link to people using the terms blackmail? - MrBlueSky MU - 12/2 15:23:04
                              Like Joe Biden? - Spanky KU - 12/2 15:32:32
                                   lol, "I call it blackmail." - MrBlueSky MU - 12/2 15:33:25
                                        The guy who Trump is accused of trying to harm called it - Spanky KU - 12/2 16:00:36
                              That is you making a conclusory statement - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/2 15:28:12
                                   Sondland testified under oath - MrBlueSky MU - 12/2 15:31:31
                                        please quote the testimony - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/2 15:34:50
                                             RE: please quote the testimony - MrBlueSky MU - 12/2 15:37:06
                                                  Thank you, now quote the pertinent parts - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/2 15:39:37
                                        and never said it was bribery - Spanky KU - 12/2 15:34:30
                                             If I flash a wallet full of $100s at a cop who has pulled me - MrBlueSky MU - 12/2 15:37:53
                                                  The only person who flashed money was Biden - Spanky KU - 12/2 16:14:20
                                                  Do you think all quid pro quos = bribery? (nm) - Sal MU - 12/2 15:41:12
                                             you don't have to say "Here, let me offer you this bribe." - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:35:42
                                        What was the bribe? (nm) - Sal MU - 12/2 15:33:41
                                             RE: What was the bribe? (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 12/2 15:35:02
                                                  RE: What was the bribe? (nm) - Sal MU - 12/2 15:36:36
                                             aid money for an investigation into a political opponent (nm) - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:34:21
                                                  You should read past his morning testimony - Sal MU - 12/2 15:36:04
                                                       why would he assume something so specific? - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:38:10
                                                            You'd have to ask him (nm) - Sal MU - 12/2 15:40:16
                                                                 no need to - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:42:34
                                                                      That can't be assumed - Sal MU - 12/2 15:44:13
                                                                           it isn't' a legit request - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:48:00
                                                  which Drumpf never asked for(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/2 15:35:16
                                                       I think that's what's to be determined in the Senate trial - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:37:16
                              How was it clearly bribery - Sal MU - 12/2 15:26:40
                                   unless Sondland was lying to the State Dept employees - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:30:35
                         I think it's bribery - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:22:58
                              Blackmail is a release of information in an exchange. I - Freeglider USA - 12/2 15:38:59
                                   the founding fathers referred to it as bribery - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:40:08
                                        I was referring to them separately. There are questions of - Freeglider USA - 12/2 15:43:25
          The dream is collapsing DOC - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/2 14:59:01
               better question - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:02:59
          So, what did he say? (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 12/2 14:56:35
               RE: So, what did he say? (nm) - Ace AU - 12/2 14:59:28
                    Why the omission of what the Time article said? - Spanky KU - 12/2 15:10:47
     Obviously lying----Schiff told me so - mu7176grad MU - 12/2 14:51:57
     A brand new president of Ukraine - MrBlueSky MU - 12/2 14:44:48
          Instead, you believe the socialists who had impeachment - hokie VT - 12/2 15:33:53
          In particular if the Caped Corruption Crusader is helping(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/2 14:58:50
               Can you have a quid pro quo when one party - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/2 15:07:09
                    Quid Pro Quo isn't the law boy(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/2 15:12:36
                         lmao so why the f*ck have you and the dems been saying it is - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/2 15:14:09
                              No one has - raskolnikov MU - 12/2 15:16:23
                                   are you saying Schiff or Crazy Nancy never said - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/2 15:21:59
                                        You seem so very confused - raskolnikov MU - 12/2 15:36:39
                                             tout de suite - Spanky KU - 12/2 17:46:47
                    you mean when one party doesn't admit to the "pro"? - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:07:50
                         lol how do you prove that? - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/2 15:13:20
                              other evidence (nm) - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:24:25
          Was the last President in desperate need - Sal MU - 12/2 14:48:29
               FYI, it was the IMF that treatened him(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/2 14:59:29
                    So did Biden and Dem senators - Sal MU - 12/2 15:00:20
                         OK then Sallie sounds like ya got 'em,(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/2 15:49:50
                         was that for dirt on Trump? - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:05:51
                              Biden's threat appears to be to protect his son's company - Sal MU - 12/2 15:16:50
                                   If he wanted to do that, he would insist they KEEP the guy - raskolnikov MU - 12/2 15:51:18
                                        Why would he want to keep the guy - Sal MU - 12/2 15:54:03
                                             The guy wasn't doing dyck on corruptiont that is why - raskolnikov MU - 12/2 16:18:52
                                                  There were at least 3 open investigations - Sal MU - 12/2 17:00:35
                                   that sounds dirty - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:25:41
               Whatabout Sal (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 12/2 14:50:27
                    so I guess you don't have an answer?(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/2 14:59:54
                    Otherwise known as #WAS - Ace AU - 12/2 14:54:10
                    So Biden and the Dem senators should be - Sal MU - 12/2 14:52:29
                         Do you consider yourself non-partisan?(nm) - playhard NWMSU - 12/2 14:53:53
                              In regards to a crime being broken, yes - Sal MU - 12/2 14:55:29
                                   So you're big on prosecuting crime yet a big fan of trump - playhard NWMSU - 12/2 14:58:19
                                        This would be you not arguing with facts (nm) - Sal MU - 12/2 14:59:46
                                             You present opinion as fact or you present debunked - playhard NWMSU - 12/2 15:03:18
                                                  What conspiracy theories are you referring to? (nm) - Sal MU - 12/2 15:17:07
                                                       Are you still pushing Ukraine meddled in our election?(nm) - playhard NWMSU - 12/2 15:28:06
                                                            Well, that happened - Sal MU - 12/2 15:29:02
                                                                 The problem is - playhard NWMSU - 12/2 15:31:42
                                                                      Yes it is, and links have been posted - Sal MU - 12/2 15:34:24
                                                                           No, it's not sal, you're repeating the same debunked alt - playhard NWMSU - 12/2 15:43:53
                                                                                Nellie Ohr didn't testify under oath - Sal MU - 12/2 15:45:44
                                                                                     looks pretty damning to me - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:52:30
                                                  No, he's just asking for facts/evidence - MIZ45 MU - 12/2 15:07:46
                         definitely - ashtray UF - 12/2 14:53:34
                         Jesus dude, you're a broken record. - MrBlueSky MU - 12/2 14:53:14
                              He's turned in to Ragnar, Hokie, etc, etc - playhard NWMSU - 12/2 14:56:11
                                   You are one of the worst here - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/2 15:02:25
                                        ok, thanks(nm) - playhard NWMSU - 12/2 15:04:26
                                   Yet none of you can address my points - Sal MU - 12/2 14:56:58
                                        I have showed you countless times - MrBlueSky MU - 12/2 15:20:11
                                             So Chalupa didn't work with Ukraine - Sal MU - 12/2 15:25:37
                                                  Again - MrBlueSky MU - 12/2 15:26:28
                                                       It's Ukrainian officials specifically working with - Sal MU - 12/2 15:28:06
                                                            So now we're back to - MrBlueSky MU - 12/2 15:33:01
                                                                 Wait, so asking a country to investigate a campaign - Sal MU - 12/2 15:34:57
                                                                      Once again...Ukraine was ALREADY investigating Manafort(nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 12/2 15:39:29
                                                                           And I've provided you evidence that their - Sal MU - 12/2 15:42:44
                                                                                hell yes, there is - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:44:15
                                        The "emotion" card, another of Sal's greatest hits(nm) - playhard NWMSU - 12/2 14:59:01
                              You don't believe they did anything wrong lol - Sal MU - 12/2 14:55:54
                              lmfao (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/2 14:54:09
               probably even more so (nm) - ashtray UF - 12/2 14:50:19
               lol (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 12/2 14:49:57
          the funding was already delivered. Is there more coming - dangertim MU - 12/2 14:47:21
               The funding had not been delivered when he spoke - MrBlueSky MU - 12/2 14:49:02
                    the money was allocated by congress. - dangertim MU - 12/2 14:56:00
                         And the POTUS has the ultimate say in dispersing - MrBlueSky MU - 12/2 15:22:46
               of course there is (nm) - ashtray UF - 12/2 14:48:06
     Doesn't matter what he felt boy(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/2 14:44:24
          It 100% matters what he perceived - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/2 15:01:15
               Nothing....I repeat....NOTHING will trump what rask - MIZ45 MU - 12/2 15:02:18
          LOL! (nm) - MIZ45 MU - 12/2 14:54:13
          of course it does (nm) - Sal MU - 12/2 14:47:29
               You're wrong (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 12/2 14:52:45
                    So if Zelensky came out and said he was pressured - Sal MU - 12/2 14:53:30
                         Biden wasn't breaking the law, Trump was - raskolnikov MU - 12/2 15:00:26
                              I think it should be investigated - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:02:22
                                   Go to town. Investigate the sht out of it and the IMF & NATO - raskolnikov MU - 12/2 15:13:37
                                        are you sure about that? - ashtray UF - 12/2 15:27:04
                                             My post stands(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/2 15:51:44
                              How do you know? - Sal MU - 12/2 15:01:05
                                   RE: How do you know? - raskolnikov MU - 12/2 15:15:01
                                        That's not what Biden said (nm) - Sal MU - 12/2 15:15:50
                                             WHAT is not what Biden said ? Are still clinging to that - raskolnikov MU - 12/2 15:52:59
                                                  lol what do you think Biden said in that video? (nm) - Sal MU - 12/2 16:10:53
                                                       You really are clinging to that? - raskolnikov MU - 12/2 16:29:19
                         lol ops (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/2 14:54:34
                         that would be political suicide for him - ashtray UF - 12/2 14:54:17
               Not even remotely - raskolnikov MU - 12/2 14:50:35
               not really - ashtray UF - 12/2 14:49:52




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