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Posted on: October 3, 2019 at 13:05:47 CT
MizzouTigerz MU
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You just really don't pay attention to detail, nor the specific words chosen by God. Why is that?

You are Eve in the Garden.

God: “Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat; but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.”

Eve: “We may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden; but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God has said, ‘You shall not eat it, nor shall you touch it, lest you die.’ ”

Do you see it?

"nor shall you touch it,"

God: You shall not add to the word which I command you, nor take from it, that you may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.

God: For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Where did Christ say, "One is not required to atone for sins with their life", in John 8:2-11? I had to study and pass a class on every book in the Bible to earn my B.A. in Biblical education. I've never seen those words in John 8:2-11

".... not in my Christianity"

Here's the thing. Christianity is yours, and you don't make up you own version of it which contracts God's explicit commands without being labeled as an heretic.

"One atones for their sins by being remorseful and turning their lives toward Christ."

One atones for their sins by spending eternity in hell, not by turning to God, not by turning away from sin. "The wages of sin is death", not good works. Someone making a substitutionary payment on your behalf still requires the death of an individual.

"Did Paul need to die to atone for his sins as Saul?"

Did David or Moses need to die?

You're pushing a false equivalence.

"What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy? Romans 9

“Behold, all souls are Mine;
The soul of the father
As well as the soul of the son is Mine;
The soul who sins shall die." Ezekiel 18

"The wages of sin is death." Romans 6

"who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them." Romans 1

"But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil. Therefore you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also for conscience’ sake." Romans 13

The exception, as they say, proves the rule.

"The New Testament supersedes the Hebrew portion"

The New Testament does not supersede the Old Testament.

"Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled." Matthew 5

"till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law"

When did heaven and earth pass away?
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     Let all criminals go free(nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 9/30 21:41:21
     Pro life means protecting all lives - MizzouTigerz MU - 9/30 19:49:14
          No... all lives...even the guilty - Spanky KU - 9/30 21:15:41
               RE: No... all lives...even the guilty - MizzouTigerz MU - 10/1 21:59:30
                    RE: John 8:7 - MizzouTigerz MU - 10/3 11:40:19
                         Til heaven and earth pass away. - MizzouTigerz MU - 10/3 13:05:47
          So, Thou Shalt Kill(nm) - Mormad MU - 9/30 20:41:24
               The commandment is, 'You shall not murder'. - MizzouTigerz MU - 10/2 07:26:09
     Some people get their rocks off killing others - El-ahrairah BAMA - 9/30 19:34:36
     RE: Pro life only cares before they are born nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 9/30 19:31:54
          You'll protect a murderer and kill an innocent unborn baby.. - Logan BAMA - 9/30 19:40:46
               Especially since "life" in prison for 1st degree murder - Tigrrrr! MU - 9/30 19:45:12
     He sounds like such a nice guy.... - Tigrrrr! MU - 9/30 19:24:19
          His crimes changes nothing about this thread(nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 9/30 19:28:54
               Sounds like he made bad choices in life... - Tigrrrr! MU - 9/30 19:40:13
     So your world view is that murderers lives must be protected - DHighlander NWMSU - 9/30 19:24:10
          Abortion is not murder. - MrBlueSky MU - 9/30 19:31:28
               how many fetus showers have you heard of? - blake1771 KC - 9/30 19:36:55
               What is it then? A kitten? Of course it is a child. Humans - DHighlander NWMSU - 9/30 19:35:40
                    Get off the soapbox, Chester. - MrBlueSky MU - 9/30 19:37:05
                         Another brilliant counter! You are doing great tonight! - DHighlander NWMSU - 9/30 19:44:43
     Apple's and oranges...use your head or you might as - Logan BAMA - 9/30 19:12:51
          Pro life should be pro life. - MrBlueSky MU - 9/30 19:13:39
               So shouldn’t pro death be pro death PERIOD? If you abide by - DHighlander NWMSU - 9/30 19:25:53
                    Lol, what? - MrBlueSky MU - 9/30 19:30:55
                         Why because YOU think it is okay to murder innocent children - DHighlander NWMSU - 9/30 19:38:21
                              No. A woman making the decision to have an abortion is - MrBlueSky MU - 9/30 19:39:53
                                   How is it any different than her deciding her one year old - DHighlander NWMSU - 9/30 19:45:58
               And no I wouldn’t have - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/30 19:25:30
               So if someone is about to stab your child - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/30 19:17:26
                    State sponsored murder is wrong. - MrBlueSky MU - 9/30 19:18:45
                         Murder is taking innocent life - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/30 19:21:06
                         So you're against abortion...right? (nm) - Logan BAMA - 9/30 19:20:07
                              When is the state carrying out an abortion? - MrBlueSky MU - 9/30 19:20:54
                                   So Private murder is just fine? State murder is wrong? - DHighlander NWMSU - 9/30 19:27:37
                                        Abortion is not murder. This is clear. (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 9/30 19:28:30
                                             It's the worse kind of murder. (nm) - Logan BAMA - 9/30 19:33:37
                                             Explain its clarity - thanks. (nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/30 19:29:15
                                                  RE: Explain its clarity - thanks. (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 9/30 19:30:00
                                                       That’s the weak argument I expected. - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/30 19:31:39
                                                            Abortion exists in the animal kingdom. - MrBlueSky MU - 9/30 19:34:14
                                                                 So you are using the “God is pro abortion” argument? +1 for - DHighlander NWMSU - 9/30 19:40:32
                                                                      Lol I didn't speak for anyone. - MrBlueSky MU - 9/30 19:46:45
                                                                           So you are now suggesting that cannibalistic infanticide is - DHighlander NWMSU - 9/30 19:52:19
                                   Planned parenthood is a federally sponsored program. - Logan BAMA - 9/30 19:24:45
               Wrong again. Babies are innocent. - Logan BAMA - 9/30 19:15:05
                    And many innocent people have been executed - MrBlueSky MU - 9/30 19:17:44
                         you aren't the arbiter of the pro-life movement. i happen to - blake1771 KC - 9/30 19:20:57
                              Most "pro-life" individuals are pro death penalty - MrBlueSky MU - 9/30 19:22:36
                                   And most pro-abortion people are against the death penalty. - DHighlander NWMSU - 9/30 19:48:31
                                   no it isn't. but it's just as easy to say an awful lot of - blake1771 KC - 9/30 19:35:48
                                        A woman getting an abortion is none of my business - MrBlueSky MU - 9/30 19:38:09
                                             It's more expensive to maintain them for life... - Logan BAMA - 9/30 19:44:58
                         And 95 percent weren't innocent. (nm) - Logan BAMA - 9/30 19:19:02
                              That changes nothing. (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 9/30 19:19:39




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