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RE: John 8:7

Posted on: October 3, 2019 at 11:40:19 CT
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This event predates Christ's atonement on the cross. What about the necessary atonement in the interim? The claim Christ's atonement on the cross eliminated payment for sin should apply universally, not just in relationship to to death penalty, because Christ paid for every sin. It is a twisted argument which must be rejected.

Atonement must be made for the land, and that, according to God, is the only way it can be made.

"So you shall not pollute the land where you are; for blood defiles the land, and no atonement can be made for the land, for the blood that is shed on it, except by the blood of him who shed it."


"I have given you all things, even as the green herbs. But you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood. Surely for your lifeblood
I will demand a reckoning;
from the hand of every beast
I will require it,
and from the hand of man. From the hand of every man’s brother
I will require the life of man.

Whoever sheds man’s blood,
By man his blood SHALL BE shed;
For in the image of God
He made man." - Almighty God - Genesis 9

If only those who are faultless can pass judgment, how do you explain 1 Corinthians 5? The church was in open sin and Paul demanded an explanation for why they had not judged the sin in the church, and scolded them severely, ordering them to judge someone and remove an individual from the church.

"Therefore “put away from yourselves the evil person.”"

You have warped Christ's intention regarding John 8, ignoring the context, and adding your interpretation to what he said.

Christ said to give to Ceasar what is Ceasar's. You now claim we are to withhold what Christ commanded; the responsibility to execute God's commanded punishment for murder.

God’s minister does not bear the sword in vain.

"Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God,

and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves.

For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. For he is God’s minister to you for good.

But if you do evil, be afraid;

for he does not bear the sword in vain;
for he is God’s minister,
an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil."
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     Let all criminals go free(nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 9/30 21:41:21
     Pro life means protecting all lives - MizzouTigerz MU - 9/30 19:49:14
          No... all lives...even the guilty - Spanky KU - 9/30 21:15:41
               RE: No... all lives...even the guilty - MizzouTigerz MU - 10/1 21:59:30
                    RE: John 8:7 - MizzouTigerz MU - 10/3 11:40:19
                         Til heaven and earth pass away. - MizzouTigerz MU - 10/3 13:05:47
          So, Thou Shalt Kill(nm) - Mormad MU - 9/30 20:41:24
               The commandment is, 'You shall not murder'. - MizzouTigerz MU - 10/2 07:26:09
     Some people get their rocks off killing others - El-ahrairah BAMA - 9/30 19:34:36
     RE: Pro life only cares before they are born nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 9/30 19:31:54
          You'll protect a murderer and kill an innocent unborn baby.. - Logan BAMA - 9/30 19:40:46
               Especially since "life" in prison for 1st degree murder - Tigrrrr! MU - 9/30 19:45:12
     He sounds like such a nice guy.... - Tigrrrr! MU - 9/30 19:24:19
          His crimes changes nothing about this thread(nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 9/30 19:28:54
               Sounds like he made bad choices in life... - Tigrrrr! MU - 9/30 19:40:13
     So your world view is that murderers lives must be protected - DHighlander NWMSU - 9/30 19:24:10
          Abortion is not murder. - MrBlueSky MU - 9/30 19:31:28
               how many fetus showers have you heard of? - blake1771 KC - 9/30 19:36:55
               What is it then? A kitten? Of course it is a child. Humans - DHighlander NWMSU - 9/30 19:35:40
                    Get off the soapbox, Chester. - MrBlueSky MU - 9/30 19:37:05
                         Another brilliant counter! You are doing great tonight! - DHighlander NWMSU - 9/30 19:44:43
     Apple's and oranges...use your head or you might as - Logan BAMA - 9/30 19:12:51
          Pro life should be pro life. - MrBlueSky MU - 9/30 19:13:39
               So shouldn’t pro death be pro death PERIOD? If you abide by - DHighlander NWMSU - 9/30 19:25:53
                    Lol, what? - MrBlueSky MU - 9/30 19:30:55
                         Why because YOU think it is okay to murder innocent children - DHighlander NWMSU - 9/30 19:38:21
                              No. A woman making the decision to have an abortion is - MrBlueSky MU - 9/30 19:39:53
                                   How is it any different than her deciding her one year old - DHighlander NWMSU - 9/30 19:45:58
               And no I wouldn’t have - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/30 19:25:30
               So if someone is about to stab your child - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/30 19:17:26
                    State sponsored murder is wrong. - MrBlueSky MU - 9/30 19:18:45
                         Murder is taking innocent life - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/30 19:21:06
                         So you're against abortion...right? (nm) - Logan BAMA - 9/30 19:20:07
                              When is the state carrying out an abortion? - MrBlueSky MU - 9/30 19:20:54
                                   So Private murder is just fine? State murder is wrong? - DHighlander NWMSU - 9/30 19:27:37
                                        Abortion is not murder. This is clear. (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 9/30 19:28:30
                                             It's the worse kind of murder. (nm) - Logan BAMA - 9/30 19:33:37
                                             Explain its clarity - thanks. (nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/30 19:29:15
                                                  RE: Explain its clarity - thanks. (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 9/30 19:30:00
                                                       That’s the weak argument I expected. - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/30 19:31:39
                                                            Abortion exists in the animal kingdom. - MrBlueSky MU - 9/30 19:34:14
                                                                 So you are using the “God is pro abortion” argument? +1 for - DHighlander NWMSU - 9/30 19:40:32
                                                                      Lol I didn't speak for anyone. - MrBlueSky MU - 9/30 19:46:45
                                                                           So you are now suggesting that cannibalistic infanticide is - DHighlander NWMSU - 9/30 19:52:19
                                   Planned parenthood is a federally sponsored program. - Logan BAMA - 9/30 19:24:45
               Wrong again. Babies are innocent. - Logan BAMA - 9/30 19:15:05
                    And many innocent people have been executed - MrBlueSky MU - 9/30 19:17:44
                         you aren't the arbiter of the pro-life movement. i happen to - blake1771 KC - 9/30 19:20:57
                              Most "pro-life" individuals are pro death penalty - MrBlueSky MU - 9/30 19:22:36
                                   And most pro-abortion people are against the death penalty. - DHighlander NWMSU - 9/30 19:48:31
                                   no it isn't. but it's just as easy to say an awful lot of - blake1771 KC - 9/30 19:35:48
                                        A woman getting an abortion is none of my business - MrBlueSky MU - 9/30 19:38:09
                                             It's more expensive to maintain them for life... - Logan BAMA - 9/30 19:44:58
                         And 95 percent weren't innocent. (nm) - Logan BAMA - 9/30 19:19:02
                              That changes nothing. (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 9/30 19:19:39




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