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Posted on: September 1, 2019 at 22:57:52 CT
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waters by comingling so much speculation on a variety of other issues.

The taxation on the cigarettes was put in place by Democrats. The laws against an individual selling loose cigarettes were put in place by Democrats. Democrats were in charge of hiring the police, setting the standards for their hire and training. They also set the parameters for how stringently to enforce the laws, and were the ones who had been pressuring the police to crack down on that activity. They were also in charge of the investigation, how it was to be conducted, and who would be in charge of investigations.

Is someone(s) screwed up, it obviously would have been a Democrat or more than one Democrat.

Your implication that the police deliberately "choked out" Eric Garner because he may have been committing some crime is quite absurd, as even you are probably aware.

Officer Pantaleo probably felt a lot worse about what happened than you do. He was doing his job as dictated by his bosses who had gotten complaints from merchants who had paid those taxes about people undercutting them while standing outside their doors selling to their potential customers.

I really doubt that he relished confronting Mr. Garner and even less did he want to get into a wrestling match on the sidewalk with some 350 lb guy who was resisting arrest. Perhaps he could have done so in a kindler and gentler manner, but I don't think there is any way in hell he was intending to "choke him out".

Mr. Garner had to be in bad physical condition. I don't know if they did an autopsy to see if he had clogged arteries or anything, but he undoubtedly had high blood pressure, was 350 lbs and presumably a smoker. Just wrestling with the police... or even a little kid could possibly cause a heart attack or a stroke.

Obviously, in retrospect, they should have taken him more seriously when he said he couldn't breathe, but when a policeman is wrestling with someone trying to resist arrest I imagine that a lot of people say things like that to try and trick them to relax their grip and then try and take advantage of the opening if they comply. Pantaleo may well have thought, hey, I'm not choking him so there's no need to let him go. Of course, that's speculation, but I haven't read transcripts of court testimony. Have you?
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     It’s a lottery ticket - mu7176grad MU - 9/1 21:27:40
     There's a reason you don't get a death sentence for selling - SparkyStalcup MU - 9/1 21:05:37
          RE: There's a reason you don't get a death sentence for selling - THEGROVE68 MU - 9/2 06:13:33
          It's questionable it was even negligence in a civil case, - MUTGR MU - 9/1 21:24:52
               I doubt any of the people involved asked what - SparkyStalcup MU - 9/1 21:29:32
                    RE: I doubt any of the people involved asked what - THEGROVE68 MU - 9/2 06:15:49
                    A democrat story all around. nm. - MUTGR MU - 9/1 21:32:42
                         So you are ok with police choking out anyone that might - SparkyStalcup MU - 9/1 21:43:27
                              You're ignoring his point re: the Democrats & muddying the - JeffB MU - 9/1 22:57:52
                                   RE: You're ignoring his point re: the Democrats & muddying the - THEGROVE68 MU - 9/2 06:19:32
                                   395 pounds. With a heart double the size is should have been - Tigrrrr! MU - 9/1 23:15:04
                              Blacks have to worry about being killed by other blacks. - Tigrrrr! MU - 9/1 21:50:05
                                   That's not what I asked...why are you avoiding the - SparkyStalcup MU - 9/1 22:07:50
                                        Because your premise is full of shìt. - Tigrrrr! MU - 9/1 22:11:04
                                             My premise is on the money, and you won't answer - SparkyStalcup MU - 9/1 22:13:22
                                                  Your premise that Pantaleo intentionally 'choked out' Garner - JeffB MU - 9/1 23:00:56
                                                  Because your premise is full of shìt. - Tigrrrr! MU - 9/1 22:19:37
                                                       You are just scared to tell us how you really feel about - SparkyStalcup MU - 9/1 22:23:08
                                                            Im not, Im cautious around YBM's Until i know what they are - Uncle Fester USMC - 9/1 22:30:06
                                                                 Sparky must be talking about these YBM's fearing for their - Tigrrrr! MU - 9/1 22:35:17
                                                                      I had one in the old hood, Probably high circling the block - Uncle Fester USMC - 9/1 22:44:14
                                                                      People who kill people without legal reason should go to - SparkyStalcup MU - 9/1 22:39:45
                                                                           RE: People who kill people without legal reason should go to - THEGROVE68 MU - 9/2 06:22:06
                                                                           Pantaleo didn't kill Garner. He was trying to do his job & - JeffB MU - 9/1 23:28:29
                                                                           NY should change its law if it shouldn't be enforced. - Tigrrrr! MU - 9/1 22:41:41
                                                            You are taking a position which can't be answered. - Tigrrrr! MU - 9/1 22:24:48
                              RE: So you are ok with police choking out anyone that might - MUTGR MU - 9/1 21:48:44
          Why is there a law against selling single cigarettes - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 9/1 21:14:59
               Because the dem shìthole political machine needs that sin - Tigrrrr! MU - 9/1 21:17:18
                    Government has an insatiable appetite for money - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 9/1 21:18:58
                         And tggggrs happily go along with it... - mizzoumurfkc KC - 9/1 21:41:44
                              Fvck you, muellertime. It's your beloved Dem shìthole laws - Tigrrrr! MU - 9/1 21:47:22
                                   Yeah Muellertime, Figure it out - Uncle Fester USMC - 9/1 21:52:42
          How about not resisting? - Tigrrrr! MU - 9/1 21:07:27
               How about following police protocol? - Grasslands MU - 9/1 21:49:04
                    Once again, it was disproved by the coroner it was not a - Tigrrrr! MU - 9/1 21:51:53
                         here - Grasslands MU - 9/1 21:58:26
                              RE: here - Tigrrrr! MU - 9/1 22:07:12
                                   If the cop doesn’t want to worry about losing his job - Grasslands MU - 9/1 22:22:37
                         Video doesnt lie and the blue thug should be happy - Grasslands MU - 9/1 21:56:37
               How about not constricting the carotid artery and stopping - SparkyStalcup MU - 9/1 21:10:13
                    RE: How about not constricting the carotid artery and stopping - THEGROVE68 MU - 9/2 06:27:13
                    Coroner disproved that. - Tigrrrr! MU - 9/1 21:14:31
                         So the murderer got off. That happens. This situation - SparkyStalcup MU - 9/1 21:28:20
                              RE: So the murderer got off. That happens. This situation - THEGROVE68 MU - 9/2 06:29:09
                              You keep calling it an illegal chokehold and the coroner - Tigrrrr! MU - 9/1 21:48:26
                                   The NYPD called it that, and that's why the guy got kicked - SparkyStalcup MU - 9/1 22:08:51
                                        He was ordered to take him into custody.... - Tigrrrr! MU - 9/1 22:13:08
                                             There were at least 8 cops in that area during Garner's - SparkyStalcup MU - 9/1 22:22:12
                                                  I dont think it was handled particularly well - Uncle Fester USMC - 9/1 22:33:50
                                                  395 pounds. - Tigrrrr! MU - 9/1 22:25:29
                                             By his black female Sargent - Uncle Fester USMC - 9/1 22:16:48
                                                  Well fire her black ass then! - Tigrrrr! MU - 9/1 22:20:23




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