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Also drastically high roster turnover.(nm)
Posted on: August 22, 2019 at 13:00:33 CT
tiger4real
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is Jmill88's assessment of Cuonzo's MU tenure a fair one?...
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zounami
MU
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8/21 21:00:12
RE: is Jmill88's assessment of Cuonzo's MU tenure a fair one?...
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bzmndan
STL
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8/23 07:25:18
I can see both perspectives being valid
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FIJItiger
MU
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8/22 11:59:01
RE: I can see both perspectives being valid
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HSCoach
STL
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8/22 13:35:51
Yes. Even including the Kim years as being
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FIJItiger
MU
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8/22 13:42:40
Just curious as to what you consider the modern era?
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longtimereader
MU
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8/22 14:47:23
I generally use 1975, when the tourney expanded to 32
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FIJItiger
MU
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8/22 14:53:17
Using that time frame I could come up with a few more
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longtimereader
MU
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8/22 15:40:25
RE: Using that time frame I could come up with a few more
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FIJItiger
MU
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8/22 16:26:33
Which is what makes them worst
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longtimereader
MU
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8/22 17:07:44
The disappointing thing about last season
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/22 16:37:05
The best parallel to last year without a doubt
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FIJItiger
MU
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8/22 16:55:26
I don't agree on 1987-88, but could see the others
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FIJItiger
MU
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8/22 16:05:38
Hence why I asked about criteria
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longtimereader
MU
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8/22 16:55:22
In terms of talent
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FIJItiger
MU
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8/22 17:01:25
Your last sentence encapsulates my point
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longtimereader
MU
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8/22 17:17:16
thats why I have pointed out the job done so far
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/22 17:24:38
Which I don't believe is the case
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longtimereader
MU
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8/22 18:15:41
Haith is an example of being great
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/22 18:20:18
Haith had already proven his status before he got here
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longtimereader
MU
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8/22 19:28:08
If this team stays healthy
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/22 12:03:40
I think that as well
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FIJItiger
MU
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8/22 12:05:44
I did mention winning helps too(nm)
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tiger4real
MU
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8/22 12:36:12
From 2009-2014 we avged 25.5 wins per season
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FIJItiger
MU
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8/22 12:45:51
Also drastically high roster turnover.(nm)
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tiger4real
MU
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8/22 13:00:33
If you were Cuonzo what home game would you bring the
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alstl
MU
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8/22 10:11:49
Florida, Tennessee, Arkansas... in that order (nm)
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zounami
MU
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8/23 04:03:46
We play 9 home SEC games each season (nm)
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FIJItiger
MU
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8/22 12:00:44
He conveniently forgot Florida, Tennessee, and Auburn...
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zounami
MU
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8/23 03:50:05
Just stop (nm)
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Hickeytime
MU
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8/22 10:27:53
Most top players will have already made their decision
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/22 10:18:23
Are you saying the atmosphere at home games has no
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alstl
MU
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8/22 10:48:05
We finally have a core group of 4-year players
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tiger4real
MU
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8/22 11:30:14
I don't think that matters much
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FIJItiger
MU
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8/22 12:32:24
It does, but those visits are taken
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/22 10:51:15
They could win the national title
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Genco98
MU
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8/22 16:53:02
That could be true, although
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/22 17:22:59
Reinforces my point - having recruits visit in offseason
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alstl
MU
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8/22 16:15:33
There were attendance problems before joining the SEC
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/22 16:23:30
Cuonzo is doing a great job.
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tiger4real
MU
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8/22 09:18:07
no(nm)
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Domino
MU
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8/22 09:06:57
It is not a fair assessment
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Da_Haze
KC
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8/22 08:28:16
agreed (nm)
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zounami
MU
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8/23 00:04:20
CM has not been a failure. He has been average
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SuperTone
MU
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8/22 08:16:53
Compared to who? What were your expectations?
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Mizzmi27
MU
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8/22 08:56:47
Compared what to who and where?
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SuperTone
MU
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8/22 09:50:27
No it isn't. The previous 3 years of our program were some
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Mizzmi27
MU
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8/22 09:57:37
I know the context. It appears average based on
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SuperTone
MU
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8/22 11:41:22
he’s been well above average
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/22 08:39:21
Those are not above average results for the first two years.
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SuperTone
MU
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8/22 11:42:27
no I picked coaches that took over bad situations
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/22 11:58:34
Weird, good coaches can have bad years.
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Mizzmi27
MU
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8/22 11:53:23
Good comparisons. Hard to argue with that.(nm)
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Mizzmi27
MU
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8/22 09:02:19
agreed (nm)
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zounami
MU
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8/23 03:53:24
RE: CM has not been a failure. He has been average
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Jmill88
MU
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8/22 08:34:57
Odom, won't win anything in the SEC with the #13
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Da_Haze
KC
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8/22 08:36:13
Odom will definitely need to step up his recruiting game...
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zounami
MU
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8/23 03:56:02
RE: Odom, won't win anything in the SEC with the #13
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Jmill88
MU
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8/22 08:41:07
We aren't winning SEC East titles with the #13
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Da_Haze
KC
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8/22 13:08:09
Correct, and there's no excuse to get out-recruited by
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zounami
MU
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8/23 03:56:51
Considering all he's had to endure, he's been above avg.
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Diamond Dave
MU
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8/22 08:33:40
Which is why I think it's really premature to try and grade
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longtimereader
MU
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8/22 15:54:13
Last year was pretty bad. Not sure how that would
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SuperTone
MU
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8/22 08:54:14
You also don't see coaches take over what Cuonzo did
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Mizzmi27
MU
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8/22 09:01:13
progress is rarely linear
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/22 08:57:37
I agree but I watched the games. We clearly had
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SuperTone
MU
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8/22 11:43:47
I agree to some extent they maybe had the talent
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longtimereader
MU
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8/22 15:08:06
I haven’t seen many games where the coaching was the reason
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/22 12:01:33
His first year was above average
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Da_Haze
KC
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8/22 08:31:20
I wouldn't say the first year was above average.
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SuperTone
MU
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8/22 08:55:28
About Cuonzo, no.(nm)
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Mizzmi27
MU
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8/22 07:25:03
Way off considering where Mizzou was when
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/21 21:51:11
agreed (nm)
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zounami
MU
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8/22 00:56:51
RE: is Jmill88's assessment of Cuonzo's MU tenure a fair one?...
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Jmill88
MU
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8/21 21:07:15
"similar jobs"...? You were singing quite a different tune
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zounami
MU
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8/21 21:22:29
RE:
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Jmill88
MU
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8/21 21:25:22
if you're right about BO taking us forward and Cuonzo taking
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zounami
MU
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8/21 21:30:32
RE: if you're right about BO taking us forward and Cuonzo taking
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Jmill88
MU
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8/21 21:33:06
"Cuonzo has a better chance moving forward than Odom"...
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zounami
MU
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8/21 21:40:02
RE: "Cuonzo has a better chance moving forward than Odom"...
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Jmill88
MU
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8/21 21:55:24
The irony is that you ended up agreeing with me. (nm)
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zounami
MU
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8/22 01:06:20