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RE: Odom, won't win anything in the SEC with the #13

Posted on: August 22, 2019 at 08:41:07 CT
Jmill88 MU
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You sound like a Zounami later. #13 in the SEC is about what Mizzou football has always been and we won two east titles. The fact is, expectations should be much higher for basketball than football. Most fans expected us to struggle a little in football and do very well in basketball.

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     I can see both perspectives being valid - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 11:59:01
          RE: I can see both perspectives being valid - HSCoach STL - 8/22 13:35:51
               Yes. Even including the Kim years as being - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 13:42:40
                    Just curious as to what you consider the modern era? - longtimereader MU - 8/22 14:47:23
                         I generally use 1975, when the tourney expanded to 32 - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 14:53:17
                              Using that time frame I could come up with a few more - longtimereader MU - 8/22 15:40:25
                                   RE: Using that time frame I could come up with a few more - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 16:26:33
                                        Which is what makes them worst - longtimereader MU - 8/22 17:07:44
                                        The disappointing thing about last season - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 16:37:05
                                             The best parallel to last year without a doubt - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 16:55:26
                                   I don't agree on 1987-88, but could see the others - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 16:05:38
                                        Hence why I asked about criteria - longtimereader MU - 8/22 16:55:22
                                             In terms of talent - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 17:01:25
                                                  Your last sentence encapsulates my point - longtimereader MU - 8/22 17:17:16
                                                       thats why I have pointed out the job done so far - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 17:24:38
                                                            Which I don't believe is the case - longtimereader MU - 8/22 18:15:41
                                                                 Haith is an example of being great - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 18:20:18
                                                                      Haith had already proven his status before he got here - longtimereader MU - 8/22 19:28:08
          If this team stays healthy - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 12:03:40
               I think that as well - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 12:05:44
                    I did mention winning helps too(nm) - tiger4real MU - 8/22 12:36:12
                         From 2009-2014 we avged 25.5 wins per season - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 12:45:51
                              Also drastically high roster turnover.(nm) - tiger4real MU - 8/22 13:00:33
     If you were Cuonzo what home game would you bring the - alstl MU - 8/22 10:11:49
          Florida, Tennessee, Arkansas... in that order (nm) - zounami MU - 8/23 04:03:46
          We play 9 home SEC games each season (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 12:00:44
               He conveniently forgot Florida, Tennessee, and Auburn... - zounami MU - 8/23 03:50:05
          Just stop (nm) - Hickeytime MU - 8/22 10:27:53
          Most top players will have already made their decision - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 10:18:23
               Are you saying the atmosphere at home games has no - alstl MU - 8/22 10:48:05
                    We finally have a core group of 4-year players - tiger4real MU - 8/22 11:30:14
                         I don't think that matters much - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 12:32:24
                    It does, but those visits are taken - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 10:51:15
                         They could win the national title - Genco98 MU - 8/22 16:53:02
                              That could be true, although - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 17:22:59
                         Reinforces my point - having recruits visit in offseason - alstl MU - 8/22 16:15:33
                              There were attendance problems before joining the SEC - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 16:23:30
     Cuonzo is doing a great job. - tiger4real MU - 8/22 09:18:07
     no(nm) - Domino MU - 8/22 09:06:57
     It is not a fair assessment - Da_Haze KC - 8/22 08:28:16
          agreed (nm) - zounami MU - 8/23 00:04:20
     CM has not been a failure. He has been average - SuperTone MU - 8/22 08:16:53
          Compared to who? What were your expectations? - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/22 08:56:47
               Compared what to who and where? - SuperTone MU - 8/22 09:50:27
                    No it isn't. The previous 3 years of our program were some - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/22 09:57:37
                         I know the context. It appears average based on - SuperTone MU - 8/22 11:41:22
          he’s been well above average - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 08:39:21
               Those are not above average results for the first two years. - SuperTone MU - 8/22 11:42:27
                    no I picked coaches that took over bad situations - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 11:58:34
                    Weird, good coaches can have bad years. - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/22 11:53:23
               Good comparisons. Hard to argue with that.(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/22 09:02:19
                    agreed (nm) - zounami MU - 8/23 03:53:24
          RE: CM has not been a failure. He has been average - Jmill88 MU - 8/22 08:34:57
               Odom, won't win anything in the SEC with the #13 - Da_Haze KC - 8/22 08:36:13
                    Odom will definitely need to step up his recruiting game... - zounami MU - 8/23 03:56:02
                    RE: Odom, won't win anything in the SEC with the #13 - Jmill88 MU - 8/22 08:41:07
                         We aren't winning SEC East titles with the #13 - Da_Haze KC - 8/22 13:08:09
                              Correct, and there's no excuse to get out-recruited by - zounami MU - 8/23 03:56:51
          Considering all he's had to endure, he's been above avg. - Diamond Dave MU - 8/22 08:33:40
               Which is why I think it's really premature to try and grade - longtimereader MU - 8/22 15:54:13
               Last year was pretty bad. Not sure how that would - SuperTone MU - 8/22 08:54:14
                    You also don't see coaches take over what Cuonzo did - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/22 09:01:13
                    progress is rarely linear - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 08:57:37
                         I agree but I watched the games. We clearly had - SuperTone MU - 8/22 11:43:47
                              I agree to some extent they maybe had the talent - longtimereader MU - 8/22 15:08:06
                              I haven’t seen many games where the coaching was the reason - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 12:01:33
          His first year was above average - Da_Haze KC - 8/22 08:31:20
               I wouldn't say the first year was above average. - SuperTone MU - 8/22 08:55:28
     About Cuonzo, no.(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/22 07:25:03
     Way off considering where Mizzou was when - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/21 21:51:11
          agreed (nm) - zounami MU - 8/22 00:56:51
          "similar jobs"...? You were singing quite a different tune - zounami MU - 8/21 21:22:29
               RE: - Jmill88 MU - 8/21 21:25:22
                    if you're right about BO taking us forward and Cuonzo taking - zounami MU - 8/21 21:30:32
                         RE: if you're right about BO taking us forward and Cuonzo taking - Jmill88 MU - 8/21 21:33:06
                              "Cuonzo has a better chance moving forward than Odom"... - zounami MU - 8/21 21:40:02
                                   RE: "Cuonzo has a better chance moving forward than Odom"... - Jmill88 MU - 8/21 21:55:24
                                        The irony is that you ended up agreeing with me. (nm) - zounami MU - 8/22 01:06:20




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