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Do YOU consider that murder? If slaves were not abused,

Posted on: June 4, 2019 at 14:47:15 CT
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other than by the institution of slavery itself, but they killed the plantation owner and his family.

Murder, justifiable homicide...something else?

What about indian uprisings. If injuns attacked a wagon train and killed people coming onto their land...murder?

An abused wife, not under duress at the time, kills her habitually abusive husband as he sleeps. Murder, justifiable homicide, something else?

Please don't bother with a legal definition. The purpose of this little exercise was to get people to realize that "murder" means different things to different people.

Even libs disagree on some of this.
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     Murder is the unlawful intentional taking of a life - Spanky KU - 6/4 14:38:11
     Ending someone else’s life that wants to live(nm) - El-ahrairah BAMA - 6/4 14:28:33
          NO - JG MU - 6/4 14:47:36
               So gutless. You think a single syllable from the likes of - hokie VT - 6/4 14:50:32
                    The truth is succint - JG MU - 6/4 15:11:37
                         There were 4 scenarios. None had the words "chicken azz" - hokie VT - 6/4 15:14:08
                              So you're too stupid and dishonest to understand what no - JG MU - 6/4 15:24:31
                                   That's about what i expected. JV. nm - hokie VT - 6/4 15:28:59
                                        At least you understand how stupid and dishonest - JG MU - 6/4 15:31:58
          Might change it to "intentional ending"(nm) - meatiger MU - 6/4 14:40:29
          Wat if it's an accident. Nm - yy4u MU - 6/4 14:34:41
               War, execution, abortion aren’t accidental(nm) - El-ahrairah BAMA - 6/4 14:35:51
                    If a bullet ricochets and kills a friendly . Nm - yy4u MU - 6/4 14:40:54
          So execution is murder? Late term abortions and - hokie VT - 6/4 14:31:57
               Yes all murder(nm) - El-ahrairah BAMA - 6/4 14:32:34
                    Civilian casualties in war are murder? nm - hokie VT - 6/4 14:34:00
                         Assuredly(nm) - El-ahrairah BAMA - 6/4 14:34:25
                              Were slave uprisings that killed their masters, murder? nm - hokie VT - 6/4 14:37:06
                                   In some cases, yes (nm) - pickle MU - 6/4 14:45:47
                                   According to law at the time - yes - Mormad MU - 6/4 14:42:28
                                        Do YOU consider that murder? If slaves were not abused, - hokie VT - 6/4 14:47:15
                                             In regard to your purpose - cnk ATL - 6/4 15:01:40
                                                  Fair question and for practical purposes we can use - hokie VT - 6/4 15:06:10
                                                       I guess my point of view is that I don't really care much - cnk ATL - 6/4 15:12:08
                                                            If execution is immoral - Mormad MU - 6/4 15:18:04
                                                                 Natural law, please. The Idiot does not need a surrogate on - hokie VT - 6/4 15:24:40
                                                                      “I don’t even know what you...mean by a natural right” - pickle MU - 6/4 15:37:22
                                                                      You misread - Mormad MU - 6/4 15:29:23
                                                                 I don't think imprisonment as punishment is necessarily - cnk ATL - 6/4 15:22:44
                                                                      If you think that there are some circumstances where it is - Mormad MU - 6/4 15:26:50
                                                                           I don't believe execution as punishment is justifiable - cnk ATL - 6/4 15:28:54
                                                                                I disagree with you there - Mormad MU - 6/4 15:31:05
                                                            Your definition works. Thanx. nm - hokie VT - 6/4 15:15:40
                                             "if slaves were not abused" - meatiger MU - 6/4 14:52:18
                                                  Did you read the entire post, meat? Did you - hokie VT - 6/4 14:58:49
                                                       Yes..I read it - meatiger MU - 6/4 15:17:53
                                                            You couldn't answer the question, but your virtue signaling - hokie VT - 6/4 15:27:34
                                                                 I answered above - meatiger MU - 6/4 15:30:37
                                                                      Fair enough. My mistake, apologies. nm - hokie VT - 6/4 15:40:24
     lol hokie (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 6/4 14:16:14
          Thank you for your participation. Now, off you go. nm - hokie VT - 6/4 14:17:38
               sup hok (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 6/4 14:21:27
               you don’t ask questions to learn; you ask questions to mock(nm) - pickle MU - 6/4 14:19:13
                    how ironic(nm) - FootballRefugee MU - 6/4 14:54:21
                         True dat. (nm) - JeffB MU - 6/4 15:02:17
          Murder is the UNLAWFUL killing of one human being by another - Mormad MU - 6/4 14:25:21
               It’s murder. “Unlawful” as far as man’s law goes - pickle MU - 6/4 14:43:01
               so killing your slave in 1850 is not murder?(nm) - El-ahrairah BAMA - 6/4 14:31:14
                    In 1850, probably not - Mormad MU - 6/4 14:36:56
                         What is magical about the law? (nm) - pickle MU - 6/4 14:44:48
                              What's magical about natural law? - Mormad MU - 6/4 14:50:01
                                   That again is the whole point. What one person considers - hokie VT - 6/4 14:55:33
                                        There is no variance of natural law and natural rights - pickle MU - 6/4 15:07:39
                                   answer the question, please (nm) - pickle MU - 6/4 14:54:46
                                        In some cases, there's nothing magical about the law - Mormad MU - 6/4 15:11:39
               Yes, sometimes that word is included in the defintion - ummmm MU - 6/4 14:26:22
                    I'd agree that you have to set the context - Mormad MU - 6/4 14:30:26
                         If i don’t have a right to kill someone not in self-defense - pickle MU - 6/4 14:44:07
                         The only one that should matter (if consistency in - ummmm MU - 6/4 14:31:27
          Hmm, you and the raskol disagree. Is infanticide murder? nm - hokie VT - 6/4 14:16:24
               Yes, of course. (nm) - ummmm MU - 6/4 14:18:09
     Yes, capital punishment (execution) is murder - pickle MU - 6/4 14:12:43
     You should really see someone about this craven need - raskolnikov MU - 6/4 14:10:18
          So execution is NOT murder? Assisted suicide is NOT - hokie VT - 6/4 14:14:32
               Ha ha ha - raskolnikov MU - 6/4 14:20:06
                    Is Ummmm also a numbnuts? He disagrees with you. nm - hokie VT - 6/4 14:22:30
                         Raskolnikov and I probably agree on about 2% of all - ummmm MU - 6/4 14:25:26
                              he doesn't pay attention - SwampTiger MU - 6/4 14:32:40
                                   Look at you, an entire sentence. Proud of you. nm - hokie VT - 6/4 14:35:49
                                        but without proper capitalization or punctuation (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 6/4 14:39:02
                                             But you admitted that you were aware of it, so you lose all - JeffB MU - 6/4 15:11:04
                              They call us the 02 brothers, they do(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 6/4 14:28:11
               execution is murder. assisted suicide is not murder (nm) - pickle MU - 6/4 14:16:31
               Infanticide is clearly murder. (nm) - ummmm MU - 6/4 14:16:03
          Abortion - the intentional killing of an unborn human being(nm) - JeffB MU - 6/4 14:13:10
               do you have some kind of alert set up on your phone? (nm) - pickle MU - 6/4 14:18:18
               Abortion - the act of terminating a pregnancy - Mormad MU - 6/4 14:14:33
                    'terminating a pregnancy' is a euphemism for the killing - JeffB MU - 6/4 14:17:00
                         Yes, but the word itself isn't limited - Mormad MU - 6/4 14:19:20
                              Abortion is the intentional killing of a mother's unborn - JeffB MU - 6/4 14:23:18




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