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Missouri will soon be the first state in the country without - MrBlueSky MU - 5/28 11:09:27

Cool but i know you’d rather kill kill kill(nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 5/28 12:10:32

Well, you ignore the compassion of the state, which only - GA Tiger MU - 5/28 11:58:10

How about we just execute those adults on welfare - Spanky KU - 5/28 12:45:34

I support execution, after a millio they will change behavio - Coors4bob MU - 5/28 14:06:26

The main reason they lost their license is for offering - None**** MU - 5/28 11:37:30

Is birth control not a thing for poor people? (nm) - Sal KC - 5/28 11:37:20

It's a thing, but where do you think poor people often get - MrBlueSky MU - 5/28 12:00:29

BC is available via prescription from a nurse practitioner - hefeweizen MU

- 5/28 12:04:53

Anti-abortion zealots want to criminalize the use of morning - MrBlueSky MU - 5/28 12:16:12

condoms are cheap as hell (nm) - Sal KC - 5/28 12:39:13

Yes they are. How often you use them? (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 5/28 12:39:46

It is none of your business - Sal KC - 5/28 12:46:08

And their use of birth control is none of your business (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 5/28 12:47:45

That makes zero sense - Sal KC - 5/28 12:49:19

I don't think anyone considers abortion to be a type of BC - MrBlueSky MU - 5/28 13:18:03

I wasn't speculating about poor people using condoms - Sal KC - 5/28 13:36:11

I'm sure there are issues I agree with you on too(nm) - hefeweizen MU

- 5/28 12:31:52

Well, lack of abortions will never be enough - Mormad MU - 5/28 11:55:53

I'm not specifically talking about birth control pills (nm) - Sal KC - 5/28 11:57:09

End Safe Abortions NOW !(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 5/28 11:25:20

nut cut all democrats. - Coors4bob MU - 5/28 14:07:13

Every abortion is fatal, there is no such thing as a safe - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/28 12:11:21

What is a Safe Abortion? (nm) - tcat KC - 5/28 11:39:12

None are for the unborn human being(nm) - hefeweizen MU

- 5/28 11:41:38

Good. It’s not gvmt’s business (nm) - pickle MU

- 5/28 11:16:16

Uh, that is an example of govt making it their business. (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 5/28 11:18:47

who cares about a permit? - pickle MU

- 5/28 11:20:59

I would think the people facing legal penalities - MrBlueSky MU - 5/28 11:27:29

Then they shouldnt be in the killing business(nm) - hefeweizen MU

- 5/28 11:28:33

They're not - MrBlueSky MU - 5/28 11:29:28

There are no medical reasons for an abortion - Spanky KU - 5/28 13:21:57

There are reasons. And they are none of your business(nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 5/28 13:29:17

Are all abortions for medical reasons? (nm) - Sal KC - 5/28 12:50:27

No, but it is a medical procedure. - MrBlueSky MU - 5/28 13:28:59

You're being really inconsistent in this thread - Sal KC - 5/28 13:37:09

Like I said, you either believe it is a person with rights o - hefeweizen MU

- 5/28 11:30:35

It is not as black and white as you make it out(nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 5/28 11:33:08

Sure it is. You either believe it is a person with rights or - hefeweizen MU

- 5/28 11:34:02

Right. And lots and lots of people don't - FIJItiger MU

- 5/28 11:32:29

And vice versa. If I punch your pregnant wife in the gut - hefeweizen MU

- 5/28 11:35:23

I would kill you, so it wouldn't really matter what they - FIJItiger MU

- 5/28 11:36:57

Lol, yet you want to dictate yours on others. Besides, the - hefeweizen MU

- 5/28 11:38:13

No he's not. He is not trying to tell people how to - MrBlueSky MU - 5/28 11:42:20

Killing another person isnt medical care.(nm) - hefeweizen MU

- 5/28 11:43:53

A nonviable fetus is not a person (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 5/28 11:50:49

Ohhhh, so there is a point of viability? Is that when you - hefeweizen MU

- 5/28 11:51:40

I don't think a fetus has rights, period. - MrBlueSky MU - 5/28 11:53:12

Then why did you use the word viable? (nm) - hefeweizen MU

- 5/28 11:55:52

Because a fetus at 10 weeks is not viable - MrBlueSky MU - 5/28 11:59:49

So, after 12 weeks it is a person with rights?(nm) - hefeweizen MU

- 5/28 12:00:39

I've already said their are no rights pre-birth - MrBlueSky MU - 5/28 12:03:08

You used the word viable. Why? Btw, one can now get tax cred - hefeweizen MU

- 5/28 12:06:17

Pregnancies are viable at about 22 weeks - MrBlueSky MU - 5/28 12:12:55

You are all over the place on this issue. So is viability - hefeweizen MU

- 5/28 12:15:50

I'm not all over the place. - MrBlueSky MU - 5/28 12:18:02

Wait, you are ok with none after 22 weeks? Why?(nm) - hefeweizen MU

- 5/28 12:32:44

Because that is the point of viability and can survive - MrBlueSky MU - 5/28 12:34:18

We are discussing abortion, not killing people (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 5/28 11:44:50

Abortion is killing a human being. Just like if I punched - hefeweizen MU

- 5/28 11:46:10

No, you would be killing a fetus in that instance - FIJItiger MU

- 5/28 11:47:34

I would be charged with homicide.(nm) - hefeweizen MU

- 5/28 11:50:53

Right, an unwanted abortion - FIJItiger MU

- 5/28 11:52:39

Nope. I would be charged with homicide, not an unwanted - hefeweizen MU

- 5/28 11:57:35

Well while I was - FIJItiger MU

- 5/28 12:01:10

Nice lay down. (nm) - hefeweizen MU

- 5/28 12:02:18

I don't know how I can possibly be more clear - FIJItiger MU

- 5/28 12:07:32

Hitler had very similar views about the population. Certain - hefeweizen MU

- 5/28 12:09:38

That is a terrible analogy, embarrassingly so. (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 5/28 12:11:00

I can see where it would trouble you to have similar - hefeweizen MU

- 5/28 12:34:11

I think the only people in this discussion not trying to - kcnorthside KC - 5/28 11:41:10

Again, you are coming up with exceptions because you - hefeweizen MU

- 5/28 11:43:18

No - FIJItiger MU

- 5/28 11:40:58

Killing another human being should never be considered - hefeweizen MU

- 5/28 11:45:03

I and many others don't share that backwards view (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 5/28 11:46:07

You have made it perfectly clear that you believe that - hefeweizen MU

- 5/28 11:47:28

I don't see how that is the case - FIJItiger MU

- 5/28 11:48:41

I'm not confused at all. You seem to be struggling though(nm) - hefeweizen MU

- 5/28 11:52:36

The facility providing the service can't operate without - FIJItiger MU

- 5/28 11:22:28

why not? Is there a magic forcefield around the clinic - pickle MU

- 5/28 11:28:11

So the opposite of what you are arguing below regarding - FIJItiger MU

- 5/28 11:34:33

What? (nm) - pickle MU

- 5/28 11:41:33

Is there some magic force field around - FIJItiger MU

- 5/28 11:43:55

i have no idea what you’re trying to say or equate here (nm) - pickle MU

- 5/28 11:49:23

I believe you (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 5/28 11:51:00

But governments have made it their business (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 5/28 11:18:01

that doesn’t change the fact of what i said - pickle MU

- 5/28 11:19:21

Human slaughterhouses should be banned - mizzouSECedes STL - 5/28 11:14:44

Its really sad, and a sad representation of our state (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 5/28 11:12:08

Good. It should be very difficult to kill another person(nm) - hefeweizen MU

- 5/28 11:11:20

Who's talking about killing another person?(nm) - kcnorthside KC - 5/28 11:19:43

That's what abortion is. Killing an unborn person. (nm) - hefeweizen MU

- 5/28 11:20:30

My limit would be the point of viability. - kcnorthside KC - 5/28 11:23:34

Pretty simple. You either believe it is a human being - hefeweizen MU

- 5/28 11:25:58

Take it you are not referring to the mom (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 5/28 11:30:02

I disagree. - kcnorthside KC - 5/28 11:28:22

There are no rights prior to birth (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 5/28 11:27:54

Then why can I be charged for the death of an unborn child - hefeweizen MU

- 5/28 11:29:45

Missouri had already made it very difficult to seek an - MrBlueSky MU - 5/28 11:18:53

Its really easy actually thanks to the 2nd amendment (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 5/28 11:13:13

you’re being stupid again (nm) - pickle MU

- 5/28 11:21:53

It is against the law to kill people. Your ilk are ok with - hefeweizen MU

- 5/28 11:15:10

Do you think abortion should be illegal in any case, - kcnorthside KC - 5/28 11:20:37

Yes. If the pregnancy could kill the mother. It would be - hefeweizen MU

- 5/28 11:22:20

And there are no cases where an abortion would save the life - Spanky KU - 5/28 11:29:50

So yeah you are a hardline no abortion ever guy. - kcnorthside KC - 5/28 11:25:46

Like I said, you either believe it is a person with rights o - hefeweizen MU

- 5/28 11:26:47

I don't think that's true. - kcnorthside KC - 5/28 11:32:29

A person's right to life is not simplistic. You are debating - hefeweizen MU

- 5/28 11:36:48

You're correct about a person. - kcnorthside KC - 5/28 11:44:58

I didnt say anything of the sort. We agree that at some - hefeweizen MU

- 5/28 11:49:07

You seemed to indicate otherwise. Apologies for - kcnorthside KC - 5/28 11:52:25

If most agree that there is a point of viability then it - hefeweizen MU

- 5/28 11:55:01

I think that's fair.(nm) - kcnorthside KC - 5/28 12:32:49

Terminating a pregnancy at 10 weeks - MrBlueSky MU - 5/28 11:29:07

Yeah, I get it that you dont believe it is a person with - hefeweizen MU

- 5/28 11:33:04

There are reprocussions afterwards, but the 2nd Amendment - FIJItiger MU

- 5/28 11:17:34

No. The right to keep and bear arms has nothing to do with - hefeweizen MU

- 5/28 11:18:49

I'm sure most children understand this - FIJItiger MU

- 5/28 11:20:02

You are a bloodthirsty sicko for supporting the killing of - hefeweizen MU

- 5/28 11:21:22

Whatever. Normal people live in Missouri too - FIJItiger MU

- 5/28 11:24:02

Weirdos are people who want to kill others. You are in favor - hefeweizen MU

- 5/28 11:27:57

It's not eluding him - mizzouSECedes STL - 5/28 11:20:52

The 2nd amendment isn't needed to kill a person - mizzouSECedes STL - 5/28 11:14:11

The right to defend yourself is an extension of the right of - hefeweizen MU

- 5/28 11:16:26

If most agree that there is a point of viability then it

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