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Jews always believed there would be a messiah but

Posted on: April 3, 2019 at 16:23:08 CT

Macgrantt MU

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Because Jesus wasn’t a violent revolutionary who came to overthrow the Roman tyranny, which the Jewish leaders desired, some elected not to believe He was the real Messiah. Others such as Saul who became Paul transitioned from being a Christian killer into a believer. The early church was made up of Jews who came to believe. Why you may ask? Because the resurrection fundamentally turned these people around and has made Jesus the most written about discussed and studied person in human history. Everyone believes in something, To not believe is a belief. Some have more reason to believe than not to believe.

Edited by Macgrantt at 16:29:48 on 04/03/19

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Spanky, why are some rules in the bible more worthy - MrBlueSky MU - 4/3 12:10:40

The rules in the Old Testament were intended for the Isreali - Macgrantt MU - 4/3 14:20:08

And you guys think the Jew's God gave up the Jews - raskolnikov MU - 4/3 15:10:57

Jews always believed there would be a messiah but - Macgrantt MU - 4/3 16:23:08

Jews disagree that Jesus was the Messiah.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/3 14:31:07

Right, just another Rabbi (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 4/3 14:41:47

He wasn’t just another rabbi. He said he was God - Macgrantt MU - 4/3 16:27:03

I'd like to know how Jesus' sacrifice means squat since he - TigerMatt STL - 4/3 12:43:17

It is just a story friend(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 4/3 13:54:32

RE: I'd like to know how Jesus' sacrifice means squat since he - scan MU - 4/3 12:52:36

Yeah but if he is God.. well he can handle it.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/3 12:55:21

He was fully God but not all of God - tigerinhogtown STL - 4/3 13:30:06

Do you know the evolution of how he went from all man - raskolnikov MU - 4/3 14:09:43

that’s how the myth goes (nm) - pickle MU

- 4/3 13:36:32

How could God learn? Supposedly he knows everything already(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/3 13:34:11

Did you read what I said? He is fully God - tigerinhogtown STL - 4/3 13:38:34

And I don't pretend to be my father and a ghost as well(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/3 14:06:50

But he is God, not man.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/3 14:06:13

But if Jesus is God as some ITT claim - MrBlueSky MU - 4/3 12:53:24

I just asked spanky the same below(nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 4/3 12:48:53

Some people still believe that stuff is real (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 4/3 12:40:23

Some people still KNOW it is real - Uncle Fester USMC - 4/3 12:56:38

I guess that is the funnier/more disheartening part(nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 4/3 13:04:35

Ive noticed - Uncle Fester USMC - 4/3 13:18:54

Good luck in your spiritual quest (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 4/3 13:22:13

Better chance Q is real.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/3 12:59:02

Both very real - Uncle Fester USMC - 4/3 13:01:30

And some of people think their brand of belief is superior - MrBlueSky MU - 4/3 12:42:37

The basis for religion is to - FIJItiger MU

- 4/3 12:48:47

It is sad.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/3 12:41:08

RE: Spanky, why are some rules in the bible more worthy - cnk ATL - 4/3 12:35:51

Spanky said sodomy is only butt stuff even though he's wrong - MrBlueSky MU - 4/3 12:36:30

Do you know the difference between the Old & New Testaments? - DoltfromSTL MU - 4/3 12:34:26

Yes and ITT I cited verses from both with direct rules - MrBlueSky MU - 4/3 12:35:53

Because people wanted to create a new religion on top - TigerMatt STL - 4/3 12:38:26

Commonly referred to as The Stoned Age(nm) - Mormad MU - 4/3 12:39:11

The Old Testament is ancient Jewish Law and History... - DoltfromSTL MU - 4/3 12:37:43

And the New Testament is out dated by the Book of Mormon.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/3 12:39:01

That is a really dumb statement... - DoltfromSTL MU - 4/3 12:46:31

Lol he used your same exact line of reasoning (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 4/3 12:47:25

No, he is using no "reasoning" at all... - DoltfromSTL MU - 4/3 13:37:19

Already answered. - TigerMatt STL - 4/3 14:10:30

Same reasoning Christians use. So yes.. stupid.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/3 12:47:08

RE: Spanky, why are some rules in the bible more worthy - Alferd Packer MU

- 4/3 12:30:54

Also - Alferd Packer MU

- 4/3 12:34:03

not Spanky but here’s some - El-ahrairah BAMA - 4/3 12:18:38

Those seem pretty basic, yes - MrBlueSky MU - 4/3 12:26:47

wrong board (nm) - pickle MU

- 4/3 12:16:39

wrong thread(nm) - Alferd Packer MU

- 4/3 12:24:15

take it to the religion board (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 4/3 12:15:40

Apologies (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 4/3 12:40:31

such as? Please cite Chapter and Verse - Spanky KU - 4/3 12:14:24

Let's go with Genesis 19, spanked - mizzoumurfkc KC - 4/3 12:21:41

Where does it say that Lot did the right thing? - scif MU - 4/3 14:50:50

You, obviously, are not a Christian and don't know... - DoltfromSTL MU - 4/3 12:36:36

LOL Try to keep up tori... - mizzoumurfkc KC - 4/3 12:42:33

For the Biblical definition of Sodomy - Spanky KU - 4/3 12:44:20

Which scripture defines sodomy as only dick in ass?(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/3 12:45:55

Genesis 19 - Spanky KU - 4/3 12:50:43

This might trigger tori - mizzoumurfkc KC - 4/3 12:59:14

Lots of triggered "Religious" people ITT (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 4/3 12:59:52

There is literally one reference to sex in that verse(nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 4/3 12:58:46

Lot offers to hand over daughters to be raped. God - TigerMatt STL - 4/3 13:00:13

Rape and sex aren't mentioned though - MrBlueSky MU - 4/3 13:02:04

But that is the Christian belief. Rape and incest aren't as - TigerMatt STL - 4/3 13:03:30

Old Testament - Spanky KU - 4/3 14:22:23

I know. Some wanted power so they split off from Judaism - TigerMatt STL - 4/3 14:34:11

No - Spanky KU - 4/3 14:41:33

Wrong, and bad things doesnt keep you from the - tigerinhogtown STL - 4/3 13:34:34

God killed the gays but saved the incent family.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/3 13:38:20

He killed everyone in the city - Spanky KU - 4/3 14:41:10

Everyone except the incestuous father daughters trio.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/3 14:48:22

They were not in the city at the time.. The wife was killed - Spanky KU - 4/3 15:11:49

So.. God chose poorly.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/3 15:30:52

That's your opinion - Spanky KU - 4/3 15:38:22

He killed those that worked against him - tigerinhogtown STL - 4/3 13:42:03

Yet it is cited as an example not to be gay (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/3 14:09:19

Makes sense why these Christians view all pregnancies the - MrBlueSky MU - 4/3 13:04:19

Where in Genesis 19 does it only say buttsex is sodomy? (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/3 12:57:32

But Dolt just told us the Old testament is only laws for - MrBlueSky MU - 4/3 12:51:45

It was not updated by Jesus in the New Testament - Spanky KU - 4/3 12:54:15

It's like Windows 98 - Mormad MU - 4/3 12:57:09

Spanky is just mad I called him a sodomite - MrBlueSky MU - 4/3 12:46:38

You are ignorant of the Bible - Spanky KU - 4/3 12:51:53

I will say I've spent more time reading it than most - MrBlueSky MU - 4/3 12:54:27

You are ignorant of the Bible - Spanky KU - 4/3 12:57:01

RE: You are ignorant of the Bible - MrBlueSky MU - 4/3 12:59:24

You've shown nothing (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 4/3 12:58:04

I have shown you are a dumb@$$ that knows nothing - Spanky KU - 4/3 13:01:37

RE: I have shown you are a dumb@$$ that knows nothing - MrBlueSky MU - 4/3 13:02:47

Please cite Chapter and verse of these 'rules' - Spanky KU - 4/3 13:03:56

RE: Please cite Chapter and verse of these 'rules' - MrBlueSky MU - 4/3 13:04:46

Specifically addressed earlier - Spanky KU - 4/3 13:11:00

RE: Please cite Chapter and verse of these 'rules' - MrBlueSky MU - 4/3 13:05:05

This addresses Jews only - Spanky KU - 4/3 13:12:20

RE: Please cite Chapter and verse of these 'rules' - MrBlueSky MU - 4/3 13:09:09

and? - Spanky KU - 4/3 13:13:41

RE: Please cite Chapter and verse of these 'rules' - MrBlueSky MU - 4/3 13:09:32

What rule do you think you cited? - Spanky KU - 4/3 13:15:03

RE: Please cite Chapter and verse of these 'rules' - MrBlueSky MU - 4/3 13:10:58

RE: Please cite Chapter and verse of these 'rules' - Spanky KU - 4/3 13:15:15

RE: Please cite Chapter and verse of these 'rules' - MrBlueSky MU - 4/3 13:16:12

What part of illegal aliens confuses you? - Spanky KU - 4/3 14:19:58

Spanked is one of them full of crap - mizzoumurfkc KC - 4/3 12:48:37

What rule is being broken? Please cite Chapter and verse - Spanky KU - 4/3 12:29:32

RE: such as? Please cite Chapter and Verse - MrBlueSky MU - 4/3 12:19:47

You need to get out of the Old Testament and ancient Jewish - DoltfromSTL MU - 4/3 12:41:08

Answered by Christ. Please try reading Mark 7: 18-19 - Spanky KU - 4/3 12:31:34

So, the Bible is the Word of God - Mormad MU - 4/3 12:33:45

See John 3:16-17... - DoltfromSTL MU - 4/3 12:44:44

How can God give his son if his son is God?(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/3 13:29:52

Wait, Jesus IS God...Spanky just yelled at me for that - Mormad MU - 4/3 12:49:04

The Christian doctrine of the Trinity: - Spanky KU - 4/3 13:00:47

Only settled hundreds of years after Jesus' death.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/3 13:02:17

Jesus IS God. - Spanky KU - 4/3 12:43:09

The multiple personality disorder god.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/3 12:46:27

It just all gets so confusing - Mormad MU - 4/3 12:45:25

So then what EXACTLY did his sacrifice on the cross mean - MrBlueSky MU - 4/3 12:44:47

That explains why the boys cost more at Cosmic Pizza(nm) - Mormad MU - 4/3 12:22:03

Lol yeah, valuing human lives - MrBlueSky MU - 4/3 12:22:37

RE: such as? Please cite Chapter and Verse - MrBlueSky MU - 4/3 12:21:52

RE: such as? Please cite Chapter and Verse - Spanky KU - 4/3 12:33:08

RE: such as? Please cite Chapter and Verse - MrBlueSky MU - 4/3 12:24:32

RE: such as? Please cite Chapter and Verse - Spanky KU - 4/3 12:42:36

You haven't once answered my initial question - MrBlueSky MU - 4/3 12:43:40

You have yet to present one - Spanky KU - 4/3 12:44:44

Don't wear clothes with mixed fabrics...discipline - MrBlueSky MU - 4/3 12:45:53

Tim was a smart dude(nm) - Mormad MU - 4/3 12:22:42

Spanky Agrees (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 4/3 12:23:12

Pull that out on the wife and daughters - Mormad MU - 4/3 12:24:28

Uh dultery - good place to start - raskolnikov MU - 4/3 12:15:36

Read the New Testament, Dipstick! - Spanky KU - 4/3 12:25:18

So - adulterers get a pass b/c of Jesus - I don;'t think so - raskolnikov MU - 4/3 13:39:01

Not what I wrote was it? - Spanky KU - 4/3 14:44:37

Remember how Jesus treated the adulterous woman - El-ahrairah BAMA - 4/3 12:21:33

Jesus forgave the sin - Spanky KU - 4/3 12:26:39

Yes he died for his enemies - El-ahrairah BAMA - 4/3 12:29:00

Can't you read? That's only women adulterers - Mormad MU - 4/3 12:18:24

or just non-Christian adulterers - Spanky KU - 4/3 12:28:14

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