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RE: A born alive baby with a birth defect

Posted on: January 30, 2019 at 18:51:13 CT
MenInBlack MU
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I assume you have never been faced with the decision...I used to work on a cardiothoracic stepdown unit...the kids generally had cogential heart disease or a lung condition (CF usually)...some conditions could be fixed and we would never see them again (tetralogy). However, many conditions (lung transplant) were only moderately successful and the kids suffered substantially.

Even after seeing the suffering...the poor prognosis...I don't know what choice I would make, but I'm not going to call a parent a murderer, if they decide to stop "treatment," given the "life" the child is expected to have.

Similarly, I am not going to judge a child that makes the same kind of decision with his/her aging parent.
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VA Governor speaks out on abortion - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/30 18:09:18
     RE: VA Governor speaks out on abortion - MOCO SON MU - 1/30 19:06:38
          RE: VA Governor speaks out on abortion - patriot MU - 1/30 19:28:21
               let alone...most of the world?(nm) - MenInBlack MU - 1/30 19:53:34
     Is this more about DNR decisions than abortion? (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/30 19:02:06
          I said below the Governor needs to walk back and clarify - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/30 19:18:40
               If the plan is to NR, then withholding basic sustenance - ummmm MU - 1/30 19:32:26
               RE: I said below the Governor needs to walk back and clarify - MenInBlack MU - 1/30 19:24:36
                    Male gingers is another condition. (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 1/30 19:27:44
                         Yeah...but they generally survive childhood - MenInBlack MU - 1/30 19:36:40
               Withholding basic sustenance is acceptable too in many - TigerMatt STL - 1/30 19:22:22
          That's what I suspect, but can't tell since it is only a - TigerMatt STL - 1/30 19:07:08
     One thing is most important on this issue. - GA Tiger MU - 1/30 18:13:27
          Then why stop at birth? Why can’t parents choose to - DHighlander KC - 1/30 18:28:22
               That’s what the VA gov is proposing. - Emoji Man MSU - 1/30 20:25:53
               Thats against the law and would go to jail. I would - GA Tiger MU - 1/30 18:51:36
                    RE: Thats against the law and would go to jail. I would - MOCO SON MU - 1/30 19:01:43
                         Both.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 1/30 19:24:30
               They don't, do they? - MenInBlack MU - 1/30 18:38:20
          He is talking eugenics and infanticide as a policy - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 1/30 18:25:19
               Possibly. Depends on if birth defect is life threatening or - TigerMatt STL - 1/30 18:26:07
                    A born alive baby with a birth defect - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 1/30 18:29:51
                         RE: A born alive baby with a birth defect - MenInBlack MU - 1/30 18:51:13
                              The governor specifically said severe deformities - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 1/30 19:56:18
                                   What would severe deformities encompass?(nm) - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 1/30 20:09:36
                                   especially if you do not share the same political - MenInBlack MU - 1/30 20:01:49
                              RE: A born alive baby with a birth defect - MOCO SON MU - 1/30 19:11:47
                                   are "we the people" that can't see nuance?(nm) - MenInBlack MU - 1/30 19:19:35
                                        RE: are "we the people" that can't see nuance?(nm) - MOCO SON MU - 1/30 19:20:33
                                             you possibly having a degree from MU...terrifying(nm) - MenInBlack MU - 1/30 19:27:14
                                                  RE: you possibly having a degree from MU...terrifying(nm) - MOCO SON MU - 1/30 19:28:32
                                                       the world is not black and white...sweeping - MenInBlack MU - 1/30 19:34:50
                                                            RE: the world is not black and white...sweeping - MOCO SON MU - 1/30 19:36:48
                                                                 you mean the laws that allow individuals to choose - MenInBlack MU - 1/30 19:42:21
                                             Stopping medical treatment =/= murder. We don't know what - TigerMatt STL - 1/30 19:23:13
                                   No one is saying that.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 1/30 19:17:21
                              I note no response. I think no one had one that made sense(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 1/30 18:54:05
                                   you were saying...(nm) - MenInBlack MU - 1/30 20:03:06
          Preserving innocent life is THE most conservative thing - Spanky KU - 1/30 18:21:38
               Here is where I am confused by the partial clip. He seems - TigerMatt STL - 1/30 18:23:44
                    The lady sponsoring the Bill testified that a dilated woman - Spanky KU - 1/30 18:35:20
                    He really needs to walk back his statement... - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/30 18:28:38
                         Stopping treatment isn't murder though. I'm not talking - TigerMatt STL - 1/30 19:10:41
                              RE: Stopping treatment isn't murder though. I'm not talking - MOCO SON MU - 1/30 19:22:54
                                   That is a nonsense scenario. (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 1/30 19:24:20
                                        RE: That is a nonsense scenario. (nm) - MOCO SON MU - 1/30 19:26:21
                                             It is because it isn't how medicine works. No one develops - TigerMatt STL - 1/30 19:29:09
                                                  RE: It is because it isn't how medicine works. No one develops - MOCO SON MU - 1/30 19:35:40
                                                       What I am saying is making someone keep their kid on life - TigerMatt STL - 1/30 19:40:19
                                                            RE: What I am saying is making someone keep their kid on life - MOCO SON MU - 1/30 20:41:49
                                                                 Except that is a scam and they are being shredded by doctors - TigerMatt STL - 1/30 20:45:13
                                                                      RE: Except that is a scam and they are being shredded by doctors - MOCO SON MU - 1/30 20:47:01
                                                                           Yes.. i do. - TigerMatt STL - 1/30 20:52:37
                                                                                fake news(nm) - MenInBlack MU - 1/30 20:53:54
          Except when a baby is born, killing it is murder not - TigerMatt STL - 1/30 18:19:25




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