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RE: Why not? (nm)

Posted on: January 24, 2019 at 10:26:51 CT
Mormad MU
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Murder is defined as: "a crime of murder is the UNLAWFUL killing of a human being, especially with malice aforethought"

Capital Punishment (where allowed) would by it's very nature be LAWFUL. There is typically no malice, it's a perfunctory performance of the act. It is a homicide - the killing of a human being by another human being, but it is not "murder".
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Can we agree on certain points of fact? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/24 10:05:14
     RE: Can we agree on certain points of fact? - paleojas MU - 1/24 11:02:09
          Gender is a feeling(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/24 11:15:35
     What you say is undeniably true, but many people - None**** MU - 1/24 10:52:43
     Trying to mesh abortion AND gender - raskolnikov MU - 1/24 10:33:38
          Because that rationale is immoral(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/24 10:37:04
               Letting women make their own decisions is immoral? - raskolnikov MU - 1/24 10:50:19
                    No, but simply ceding immoral actions as you propose - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/24 11:17:14
                         Sorry, but I have to ask WTF you think you are to make - raskolnikov MU - 1/24 11:26:41
                              I will act to save an innocent life, even if the person - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/24 11:39:51
                                   I back way far away from you "Morality in Action " types - raskolnikov MU - 1/24 11:45:35
                                        is forcing bakers to make cakes for LBGT "morality - 90Tiger MU - 1/24 11:51:56
                                             OMG, please, please don't tell me America's not perfect(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 1/24 12:02:48
          In the OP, are you comfortable - Floyd Turbo 99 - 1/24 10:36:34
               Not even remotely comfortable with that - raskolnikov MU - 1/24 10:54:43
                    LOL!!!! - Floyd Turbo 99 - 1/24 11:03:52
     Another fact: - JayHoaxH8r MU - 1/24 10:33:34
          uh how would they end abortion?(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/24 10:39:55
               DO SOMETHING!!! Make it illegals and stuffs - JayHoaxH8r MU - 1/24 12:07:32
               You will never ever end abortion you morons(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 1/24 10:56:06
                    That was his point(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/24 11:14:57
                         No it wasn't, at least not directly(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 1/24 11:27:49
                              goddam you are stupid(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/24 11:52:50
                                   Wrong again chump, poster questioned how GOP rule could - raskolnikov MU - 1/24 12:04:15
          is there a gene for jews? - dangertim MU - 1/24 10:39:48
          How would they do that? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/24 10:37:48
     Point of viability is at about the 22 week mark - MrBlueSky MU - 1/24 10:17:49
          I have seen reports of the "health" of a mother being - hokie VT - 1/24 10:36:11
          What life threatening condition or what state of health of - Floyd Turbo 99 - 1/24 10:27:11
          When babies are made most will live if you dont kill them - Coors4bob MU - 1/24 10:26:46
          RE: Point of viability is at about the 22 week mark - Ferg MU - 1/24 10:22:03
               What is the clear and objective definition of viable - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/24 10:26:46
                    I have no idea - Ferg MU - 1/24 10:27:59
                         But the government is making the law - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/24 10:29:25
                              The government is going to favor the life of the mom - MrBlueSky MU - 1/24 10:36:15
                                   OK. I accept that - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/24 10:39:17
                              if it is to err on the side of life, - DC Jayhawk KU - 1/24 10:35:05
                                   Of course, that argument can be made(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/24 10:36:40
               So only nonviable pregnancies and if the woman's health - MrBlueSky MU - 1/24 10:24:29
     We can agree on that, yes. - ummmm MU - 1/24 10:14:35
          No - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/24 10:25:20
               self-defense? lmfao (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/24 10:30:55
               So, it's not murder because it's self defense? (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/24 10:28:44
                    No, it's not murder because it's lawful - Mormad MU - 1/24 10:30:55
                         It absolutely is murder (nm) - pickle MU - 1/24 10:38:09
                    That is certainly one of the reasons(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/24 10:29:55
                         you're desperately beyond logic here. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/24 10:40:00
                         When someone is strapped to a gurney - ummmm MU - 1/24 10:31:48
                              At that moment, no one - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/24 10:41:21
                                   Make your own argument. (nm) - pickle MU - 1/24 10:45:10
                                   If someone is convicted for murder and spends 35 years in - ummmm MU - 1/24 10:43:00
                                        No, in our system individuals cannot make that decision - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/24 10:47:20
                                             but a group of people can? - pickle MU - 1/24 10:55:50
                                             Robots don't effect capital punishment. - ummmm MU - 1/24 10:55:18
                                                  Yes, the debt society determined was owed had been paid(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/24 11:14:32
                                                       So, if a fellow prisoner aggressively kills someone on death - ummmm MU - 1/24 11:19:56
                                                            In our system, courts hand down decisions based on - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/24 11:41:28
                                                                 So, is that murder or not? - ummmm MU - 1/24 11:45:19
                                             In Umm's example, has he committed murder?(nm) - DC Jayhawk KU - 1/24 10:48:52
               No one is being killed “in the act of killing others” - pickle MU - 1/24 10:27:56
          No. It is a homocide. - Mormad MU - 1/24 10:22:22
               Why not? (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/24 10:23:17
                    RE: Why not? (nm) - Mormad MU - 1/24 10:26:51
                         Capital punishment is a violation of the natural law - ummmm MU - 1/24 10:29:58
                              So you want to default to a bunch of philosophers - Mormad MU - 1/24 10:48:41
                                   No, I just saw in your definition something about murder - ummmm MU - 1/24 11:01:38
                                        Only in those governmental units that have declared it to be - Mormad MU - 1/24 11:59:28
                                   Non-responsive - pickle MU - 1/24 10:56:42
                                        That's what you're doing - Mormad MU - 1/24 12:00:06
                         where did gvmt get the right to kill someone - pickle MU - 1/24 10:28:56
     Decentralize - Ferg MU - 1/24 10:14:18
     It’s not murder for the same reason taxation is not theft - pickle MU - 1/24 10:07:08




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