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Barry Odom by the Numbers - Pinkel vs Odom

Posted on: January 2, 2019 at 04:23:16 CT
drfrightner MU
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Please look over all these stats and debate them. Would this record of accomplishments survive at another SEC school?
I want even the most DIE HARD ODOM fan to read all the numbers posted here... this took over an hour to research. Scroll thru it because you will be SHOCKED... to me the most alarming is that in four years Odom has only got 13 Missouri Players to stay home, while Pinkels last 4 years was 30 players. Odom has failed to land a #1 player from the state while Pinkel did it over his last four years 2 out of 4. Odom has only been able to land 5 of the top 10 recruits over four years that is 5 for 40. Pinkel was 15-40. Odom has done this bad in Missouri despite every high school player KNOWING for two years Mizzou is building a brand new football only complex... something Pinkel NEVER had! Please read thru these stats.

Overall Record 19-19
SEC Record 10-14
Bowl Record 0-2
Conference Titles - Zero

NFL Players Odom Recruited - Zero
Salary 3 Million

Facts over FOUR recruiting classes

Number of 5 star players recruited - ZERO
Number of ESPN top 300 in four years - TWO
Number of Rival 4 Star Players Recruited - 7 (not even two a year average.

Just to put it in perspective Pinkel last class had SIX 4 star players in just 2015.

According to Rivals Class Ranks have been 47 - 49 - 39 - 32 average 41

Pinkels last four class average was 33.

SEC Class Rank over his four years 13 - 13 - 12 - 13 Only Vandy has a worse class ranking over four years. So in other words second to last. BTW Vandy is the hardest school in the SEC to get into just keep that in mind.

Head Coaching Experience Prior to Mizzou - ZERO
Record against Power 5 Teams with winning record 2-17
Points Scored against those teams and points allowed
412 PF - 690 PA
Average Score vs P5 w/ winning record 21.6 vs 36.3
Average Loss Spread against winning record teams -14.7

Odom vs Pinkel Recruiting according to ESPN last four years Odom vs Pinkel last four

ESPN Top 300 Recruits Odom 2 vs Pinkel 9
ESPN Five Star Players Odom 0 vs Pinkel 2
ESPN Four Star Players Odom 9 vs Pinkel 21
ESPN NO RATING PLAYERS Odom 12 vs Pinkel 7 (players taken with no rating NOT GOOD)

ESPN Juco Top 50 Odom 2 vs Pinkel 3
Class Ranks by Rivals average Odom 41 vs Pinkel 33
Best Class Rank by R. Odom 32 vs Pinkel 27

Now onto the MOST disturbing facts: Pinkel vs Odom (last four years recruiting MISSOURI)

#1 Missouri Recruit Odom 0 vs Pinkel 2 (so Pinkel scored the top recruit 2 out of 4)
Top 5 Missouri Recruits Odom 3 vs Pinkel 7 (over double)
Top 10 Missouri Recruits Odom 5 vs Pinkel 15 (3 times as many)
Overall Missouri Recruits Odom 13 vs Pinkel 30 (over double)

How does Mizzou win in football if we can only get 5 of the top 40 recruits from our state over four years? Odom has got zero players from Kansas in 2015 alone Pinkel got two of the top 3. Odom has got no one from East St Louis yet Pinkel got the #1 recruit in the country. I think you see the trend here Odom has NO PULL in his own region or even his own state. 5 of the top 40 guys from your own state commit to Mizzou while Pinkel got 15.

THINK OF THIS ALARMING STAT... Pinkel Landed 15 TOP 10 Missouri Players over four years... Odom has only landed 13 players TOTAL. HOW IS THIS GUY GOING TO WIN RECRUITING LIKE THAT??????

Record vs power 5 teams (last 3 seasons) Odom 11-18 vs Pinkel 18-12

Record vs power 5 winning record Odom 2-17 vs Pinkel 11-9

Overall Record over last 3 seasons Odom 19-19 vs. Pinkel 28-12

One FINAL NOTE:

Before you go comparing Pinkel's first three seasons 17-19 to Odom's 19-19 and Odom two bowl losses to Pinkels one bowl loss... lets dive deeper.

Pinkel coached Mizzou 15 seasons with a record of 118-73 and a conference record of 64-57 with a total bowl record of 6-4. Lets look at What Odom inherited opposed to Pinkel

PRIOR TO PINKEL 15 Seasons TWO BOWL appearances 1-1

15 Seasons Prior to Odom TEN BOWL appearances 6-4

PRIOR TO PINKEL 15 season record was 59-105-4 if we throw in the 1985 seasons you'd add in another 1-10 season and 3-7-1 the year before that. WORST STRETCH IN MIZZOU HISTORY

Record prior to Odom taking over 118-73 that is basically 50% more wins.

Winnings Seasons 15 years back prior to Pinkel TWO

Winning Seasons 15 years back prior to Odom TEN

Odom didn't take over an outhouse here... he took over a program with a lot to build upon despite Pinkel's last season. Furthermore Pinkel never got his football only complex to help with recruiting Odom has had it under construction all year to help with recruiting and failed.

FURTHERMORE this roster he just had has at least FIVE NFL draft picks that Pinkel brought in including Lock who's a first round pick. This guy did NOT take over a program like Pinkel especially not when you get an NFL first round draft pick as your QB for all three years of your coaching career. Sorry Charlie.

BUT HERE IS THE BIGGEST REASON FOR THE DIFFERENCE between Odom and Pinkel and is WHY this HIRE was wrong from the start.

Prior Head Coaching Experience

Pinkel 10 seasons at Toledo 73-37-3 with one bowl appearance a win!

Odom prior head coaching experience - ZERO!

He was the DC for ONE year at Mizzou ONE YEAR that is the sum total of his Power 5 coaching experience as a head coach or coordinator. I think the stats speak for themselves that Barry is not ready for this job, or is failing.


Edited by drfrightner at 04:50:04 on 01/02/19
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Barry Odom by the Numbers - Pinkel vs Odom - drfrightner MU - 1/2 04:23:16
     Go back to the beaker board d-bag. (nm) - go tigers MU - 1/2 10:09:41
     RE: Barry Odom by the Numbers - Pinkel vs Odom - MOCO SON MU - 1/2 08:50:14
          Not sure what Odom's strength is - mu7176grad MU - 1/2 07:55:24
               Being a decent coach - Hickeytime MU - 1/2 08:21:00
               OOC scheduling?(nm) - tigersailor MU - 1/2 07:59:11
     Gave up after your initial odd obsession with recruiting - Mizzmi27 MU - 1/2 07:39:38
     To your initial question, no, this would not be good enough - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 1/2 07:04:14
          Firing and hiring every three years doesn't work - Gavin Citrus MU - 1/2 07:17:28
               Dabo Swinney - Clemson - Emoji Man MSU - 1/2 09:18:29
                    Kirby Smart - Georgia - Emoji Man MSU - 1/2 09:19:06
               Tom Herman - Texas - Emoji Man MSU - 1/2 09:16:49
               Matt Campbell - Iowa St - Emoji Man MSU - 1/2 09:16:12
                    His record at ISU is 1 game better than BO (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 1/2 10:05:11
                         And ISU had won 8 total games the previous three years - FarmerClone ISU - 1/2 10:50:28
               Urban Meyer - Ohio State - Emoji Man MSU - 1/2 09:15:26
               Nick Saban - Alabama - Emoji Man MSU - 1/2 09:14:50
               Brian Kelly - Notre Dame - Emoji Man MSU - 1/2 09:12:11
               Chris Pederson - Washington - Emoji Man MSU - 1/2 09:10:26
               What? I didn't argue that it works. But there are several - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 1/2 08:49:46
               It is different when replacing a coach fired for failing - tigersailor MU - 1/2 07:33:56
                    I'll absolutely bet on 8+ wins next year - Gavin Citrus MU - 1/2 07:46:37
                         We agree on the not firing - tigersailor MU - 1/2 07:49:21
                              Mizzou's defensive efficiency numbers were top 20 - Gavin Citrus MU - 1/2 08:26:39
                                   The secondary is a ****ing disaster - tigersailor MU - 1/2 08:55:55
               Tom Herman. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 1/2 07:20:38
     You spent all this time - Gavin Citrus MU - 1/2 06:16:52
          RE: You spent all this time - drfrightner MU - 1/2 06:21:42
               And you still compared a coaches first 3/4 years to another - Mizzmi27 MU - 1/2 07:41:10
               Recruiting class ranks - Gavin Citrus MU - 1/2 07:12:08
                    NUMBERS don’t lie! nm - redngray MU - 1/2 07:17:05
                         I guess in truth they are trending down - Gavin Citrus MU - 1/2 07:18:17
               LOL you are delusional. nm - redngray MU - 1/2 06:35:00
     What a waste of time and effort - redngray MU - 1/2 05:59:13
          Someone living in the past. Nm - BlakeMB MU - 1/2 08:06:30
          RE: What a waste of time and effort - drfrightner MU - 1/2 06:16:50
               7 Missouri player in 2019, that’s trending up - wu-tangtiger MU - 1/2 08:06:30
     Odom has 3 yrs experience now - tigersailor MU - 1/2 05:15:46
          The in game coaching decisions are the easy part esapecially - tigertix MU - 1/2 07:15:10
               They are hard for Barry—3 losses per year due to in game - tigersailor MU - 1/2 07:30:23
                    Gundy made some similar mistakes - wu-tangtiger MU - 1/2 07:35:42
                         Please don’t defend it by using that reasoning; 3 games/ yr - tigersailor MU - 1/2 07:52:01
                              My bad (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 1/2 07:54:26
                                   Hah, mine too(nm) - tigersailor MU - 1/2 07:58:44
          RE: Odom has 3 yrs experience now - drfrightner MU - 1/2 06:05:40
               What compare a coach in his 21-25th years as a HC - wu-tangtiger MU - 1/2 07:38:05
                    I agree on that line of thought - tigersailor MU - 1/2 07:57:19




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