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Posted on: December 20, 2018 at 09:52:35 CT
meatiger MU
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I don't care about whether government is involved or not. You can continually state value is only in the form of the physicality of production and ownership of that physical piece. I could not disagree more.

You are on the side of stealing that value, and take the position of whoever creates it for the cheapest wins. Your are in a continual support of the race to the bottom in terms of costs, because only what you physically own has any value.

Much of the value in this society is made through intellect, and then the actual process of making it is cheap....you give no value to the intellect and do not believe it should be protected in any manner at all...if I am wrong, state clearly where I am wrong.
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Property rights and "intellectual property" - pickle MU - 12/20 09:07:51
     So ideas are not protected?(nm) - tcat KC - 12/20 10:20:26
          I don't understand the question (nm) - pickle MU - 12/20 10:29:02
     Hard to get past the first sentence. nm. - MUTGR MU - 12/20 09:55:09
          i believe you (nm) - pickle MU - 12/20 10:05:41
     lol (nm) - DoltfromSTL MU - 12/20 09:35:22
     Yeah..we get it - meatiger MU - 12/20 09:27:34
          lol, meat, lol (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/20 09:31:13
               RE: lol, meat, lol (nm) - meatiger MU - 12/20 09:37:20
                    and your understanding of value and thinking someone - 90Tiger MU - 12/20 09:43:58
                         RE: and your understanding of value and thinking someone - meatiger MU - 12/20 09:45:43
                              value is an individual issue, meat. nobody has a right to - 90Tiger MU - 12/20 09:52:39
                                   RE: value is an individual issue, meat. nobody has a right to - meatiger MU - 12/20 09:56:14
                                        Markets determine prices, not values. (nm) - ummmm MU - 12/20 10:01:01
                                             RE: Markets determine prices, not values. (nm) - meatiger MU - 12/20 10:02:13
                                                  Not necessarily - ummmm MU - 12/20 10:08:24
                                                       RE: Not necessarily - meatiger MU - 12/20 10:09:49
                                                            Oh, **** off, meat (nm) - pickle MU - 12/20 10:17:35
                                                                 Wow..I hit the tiggrrrr never(nm) - meatiger MU - 12/20 10:19:22
                                                                      this thread exemplifies why I contend you don't truly - 90Tiger MU - 12/20 10:51:03
                                                                           LOL - meatiger MU - 12/20 10:56:28
                                                                                you're the one who jumped in with the straw man - pickle MU - 12/20 10:58:51
                                                  you don't understand value at all - pickle MU - 12/20 10:05:20
                                                       IP has everything to do with value - meatiger MU - 12/20 10:06:49
                                                            It doesn't have anything to do with value - pickle MU - 12/20 10:16:58
                                                                 LOL - meatiger MU - 12/20 10:18:59
                                                                      the same way it enforces taxes and tariffs and such (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/20 10:27:18
                                                                      by force and gunpoint (nm) - pickle MU - 12/20 10:24:45
                                                                           RE: by force and gunpoint (nm) - meatiger MU - 12/20 10:31:36
                                                                                it didn't go over my head, meat (nm) - pickle MU - 12/20 10:58:08
                                        You're taking a pro-tariff type position here and don't even - 90Tiger MU - 12/20 09:58:01
                                             RE: You're taking a pro-tariff type position here and don't even - meatiger MU - 12/20 09:59:49
                                        No, the market does not figure out that value (nm) - pickle MU - 12/20 09:57:10
                                             correct. that's like saying "society determines what's - 90Tiger MU - 12/20 09:58:55
                                                  RE: correct. that's like saying "society determines what's - meatiger MU - 12/20 10:00:50
                                                       No, meat. the market is not a group of individuals - pickle MU - 12/20 10:03:45
                                                       you're utterly lost and now running in circles around "value - 90Tiger MU - 12/20 10:01:38
                              what if you created something and no one wanted it? (nm) - pickle MU - 12/20 09:52:00
                                   the it won't be sold - meatiger MU - 12/20 09:53:10
                                        What about your right to value?(nm) - pickle MU - 12/20 09:56:13
                                             RE: What about your right to value?(nm) - meatiger MU - 12/20 09:56:54
                                                  Your entire argument is that there is - pickle MU - 12/20 09:58:00
                              Value is subjective. there is no right to value (nm) - pickle MU - 12/20 09:48:28
                    the entire post (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/20 09:43:32
                    everything. it was a straw man (nm) - pickle MU - 12/20 09:42:07
                         RE: everything. it was a straw man (nm) - meatiger MU - 12/20 09:44:12
                              I'm trying to have a discussion - pickle MU - 12/20 09:47:37
                                   You are not at all - meatiger MU - 12/20 09:52:35
                                        again, I have never mentioned value in discussing IP - pickle MU - 12/20 09:55:45
                                        You don't even realize you're arguing for monopoly protecti - 90Tiger MU - 12/20 09:53:55
                                             Not really - meatiger MU - 12/20 09:58:16
                                                  yes, really (nm) - pickle MU - 12/20 10:04:23
                              well, you stated his position incorrectly and wanted to - 90Tiger MU - 12/20 09:45:15
          i don't believe that at all. I've never mentioned value - pickle MU - 12/20 09:28:57
               lol (nm) - DoltfromSTL MU - 12/20 09:35:36
               Value is the main reason around - meatiger MU - 12/20 09:30:45
                    No, that is not the main reason around IP - pickle MU - 12/20 09:34:49
                         I know IP quite well - meatiger MU - 12/20 09:36:53
                              that isn't a reason at all, meat (nm) - pickle MU - 12/20 09:41:45
                         lol (nm) - DoltfromSTL MU - 12/20 09:35:47




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